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RBS in-Limbo (extreme makeover) by Car-Lo
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Report this Post10-16-2014 02:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Car-LoSend a Private Message to Car-LoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

 
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Originally posted by 85LAMB:

Has anyone heard from Carlo ?
It has been a while that he does not post.
Can someone check on him ?
and let us know if he is ok

I hope everything is ok


Quick update...
The flame lit up with Gina (old flame) and I spending time together, hiking, mountain biking and traveling
She also gave me lots of work to do for her (that will pay for poor RBS2 goodies and big brakes)

Some shots of us...







At our old age we where still able to do 'The Grouse Grind"

https://www.grousemountain.com/grousegrind



I'll sneak in some time to play with RBS2 too

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Collection of sketches made along the way and into 5 pages showing the evolution of RBS2 start to present day...











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I am Glad you and Gina were able to take some time and get back together. I am also glad to see you chose to finish RBS, you would have broke many hearts if you walked away from it. (However I do understand yours is the most important so I think most would understand)

Now that the sappy stuff is out of the way, I can't wait to see more updates on the car and see it on the road tearing up Hastings street scaring the locals, or maybe trying to do the Stanley park loop, LOL, you would get stopped every 10 feet for a photograph in Stanley park.

Again congrats on you and Gina.

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Awesome sketches John

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I am glad everything is ok,
Looks like you were having fun
I wish there were places like that around where I live.

I am sure it's probably getting colder up there but keep us posted on the progress.

I am glad you are back

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Today I had a chance to see how the old existing 2" chopped windows would fit
Taped new size, turned out nice, same curvature no modifications there, just cut down to size about 2" more



Open door for a better view, showing the difference holding Lambo door down (not enough weight to keep door down without door skin on))



Few more shots showing the difference







Overall look of a "4" chopped window" ( yes, I look tired )



Nice tight fit for Vancouver rain forest



Yesterday when I adjusted the upper stop down to fit window, the vertical edge was out as per upper pic

Today I trimmed window edge to fit properly much better seal than yesterday let it rain

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Lexan, I take it?

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Lexan, I take it?


Plastic, it is

Today welding new bottom window bumper stops





Installing bumper stops new location, much higher up, window to rest on upper felt pad





RBS2's new welder...
Blair and I went shopping for a welder ( something suitable ) and set it up for me it was on sale to

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Saw this a tad too late, for the window stops we have been using the front shelf under the hood brackets for the sun roof. They bolt up perfectly on the door brace. On the brace itself we always drill and slot the hole so we can get some adjustment. the bracket lands perfectly on the window track bottom dead center. Basically same spot you mounted yours in.

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Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

Saw this a tad too late, for the window stops we have been using the front shelf under the hood brackets for the sun roof. They bolt up perfectly on the door brace. On the brace itself we always drill and slot the hole so we can get some adjustment. the bracket lands perfectly on the window track bottom dead center. Basically same spot you mounted yours in.



Thanks for the info jetsnettes2000, that's a great idea (would that be an Archie trick)

Found an old shot, is that what you're talking about shown in red, if so that would make a better stopper

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Thanks for the info jetsnettes2000, that's a great idea (would that be an Archie trick)


Nope, that would be a me and Av8Fiero trick we did on our chops and the Rottin resurrection Chop

And yup that is it in the pic!

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Nope, that would be a me and Av8Fiero trick we did on our chops and the Rottin resurrection Chop

And yup that is it in the pic!



Thanks for sharing, great trick for the future choptops

Rough sketch showing vertical fins added to wings (I was going to leave them out, but changed to first design)



Welding upper and lower wings together, vertical fins will be all one part with wings too



Grinding weld blob away



Cutting off part of liner, she wants to expose her 325 big boots



Mock up in card



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I'm an amateur at this, so don't laugh...
My first time making fibreglass panels with gel coat, it was lots of fun

Rolling on gel coat (don't forget to lay down mold release first)



I used two layers of matt, brushing each layer with resin



Rolling out air pockets hey out there, wake up



Nice ultra light fibreglass panels to cover wings tops



Cutting out wing tops









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Thanks, Carlo. You are a teacher. I appreciate your free and fluid approach to design and fabrication. Although it may sound trite, it is inspirational.

Is that a sheet metal base upon which you put the mold release before rolling out the gelcoat?

Ken

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Originally posted by kennn:

Thanks, Carlo. You are a teacher. I appreciate your free and fluid approach to design and fabrication. Although it may sound trite, it is inspirational.

Is that a sheet metal base upon which you put the mold release before rolling out the gelcoat?

Ken



Thank you so much for the nice compliment Ken I'm just an old amateur posting as I go along (I was excited about my first gelcoat )
About that sheet you asked, I used 1/8" aluminum sheet that was hanging around for future console

Today bonding fibreglass pieces onto upper wing frame (not enough clamps to do both)



Using PL2000 because it's only $10 (bonds fibreglass to metal) Pliogrip is $45







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John

I am sure you have probably done/are aware but I would suggest you pop a few rivets in those panels also - you will get thermal movement in the metal frame for sure ;-)). Or if your adhesive is flexible (like Sikaflex) you may be ok. Generally sticking FG to metal long term requires a multiple methods mindset ;-)

I always use vinyl-ester resins near any heat source to eliminate the possibility of any blistering/distortion - some of those panels are going to be getting heat soaked from your exhaust.

I love the latest sketch of the rear - beautiful work.

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John

I am sure you have probably done/are aware but I would suggest you pop a few rivets in those panels also - you will get thermal movement in the metal frame for sure ;-)). Or if your adhesive is flexible (like Sikaflex) you may be ok. Generally sticking FG to metal long term requires a multiple methods mindset ;-)

I always use vinyl-ester resins near any heat source to eliminate the possibility of any blistering/distortion - some of those panels are going to be getting heat soaked from your exhaust.

I love the latest sketch of the rear - beautiful work.


Thanks for the info Andy, bonding panels was temporary to hold until underside was glassed in making one sold unit, would that be strong enough maybe few rivets as you suggested?

About vinyl-ester resin, is that rolled on over existing panels I was thinking adding heat shields on hot areas ??

Today, worked on lower wing...





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Today bolted on wings for overall viewing...













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Wake up! Err...bump.

It's been a boring week. Where is my our update? I demand want to know what is happening to my your car.

Kidding, kidding. It's been cold out. I'll wait until the spring before giving you another hard time about it. Maybe you and toady are both in hibernation now.

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Thanks Stubby79 for waking me up

The adhesive worked very well bonding fibreglass to steel frame, but just to make sure I fibreglass patches here and there
(shown in red) to frame and panels that should hold without using any rivets



Filled in empty spaces between frame with foam and sanding flush to frame thickness





Had no time today to fibreglass underside so it's tomorrow


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Nice work. Going to have to try that two part foam myself soon.

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NOW, that sounds very interesting Stubby, what are you up too with the foam ?
Since you all live in Victoria, Wayne (dobie1) and Don (355Fiero) When ever I zip over to the island we should hook up



Today started glassing underside, two layers of 1-1/2 ounce matt



Tweaked rear end of rough sketch

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Dusty day...
Used duraglass for the low points, I won't be to fussy about the underside



Wings all roughed out

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CarLo....JUST WOW...as always!

I must take off my hat to you!

I can't wait to see her completed...even though I will miss the build!

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Thanks TXOPIE, don't take your hat off yet

 
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CarLo....JUST WOW...as always!

I must take off my hat to you!

I can't wait to see her completed...even though I will miss the build!


I got too fussy after all with the under side, a bit of light bondo, easy sanding just like chalk



Sanding...



And more





Quick primer job



Mounted for viewing



RBS2 TIME MACHINE

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You can keep the flux capacitor, just give me the Mr Fusion. I'd love to get that much power from some random garbage.

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Car-lo your artistic skills are off the charts.

You sir can draw.

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Tribute to Car-Lo's Artistic Skills!

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First: TXOPIE thank you so much for the tribute video that was way to nice


 
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Car-lo your artistic skills are off the charts.

You sir can draw.

Thanks exoticse, but that's what I've been doing all my life

Back to the future...
20 years: graphic designer for Neon Products
30 years: architectural illustrator, (all renderings hand painted in gouache ) retired part time at 65 and totally retired this past April (I'll be 70 on Feb. 6 )

Few samples...
Vancouver, BC





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Holy crap! Those are magnificent Car-Lo.

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I do architectural drafting and I can tell you these are wonderful works of illustration! And you dont look a day over 50!

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I had no idea you were almost 70.. was thinking late 50's.

Hope I look that good when I'm your age..

Awesome car.

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Slightly O/T but ya John is one of those guys that you almost want to ask for I.D. when he tells you his age. He has more energy and devotion to his car than I do to any of my own projects and I am literately 1/2 his age. I mean what 70 year old do you know that still drives a Fiero and actually had the crazy idea to put scissor doors on his car let alone all the other crazy awesome mods he is doing.

P.S. John the details are up on the club forum for this weekends meeting and the up coming club Christmas Party. Hopefully you and your nephew can attend. I want to pic your brain about a few things.

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Man, I knew Car-lo was talented, but that blows my mind. This guy is brilliant!

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As i sit and admire the amazing artwork of the familiar Calgary backdrop, my work phone rings and an overtime repair request comes in for a broken elevator in Bankers Hall... that's the little building in the background just left of the Calgary Tower. Crazy!
Amazing work Carlo!

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I just want to say a HUGE THANK YOU to John for giving me such a wonderful Christmas gift. Lisa and I went to the West Coast Fiero's Club Christmas Party. I was not expecting anything aside from the Awesome free food the club bought for everyone, when John shows up with a rather suspicious package with CAPT FIERO written on it in a rather cool artwork design. (sorry didn't get a pic of that) Inside the package were these beautifully framed hand drawn pictures of what my car should end up looking like when we are done with it. (He has already built the Nose, Cowl hood, Cowl Deck lid and Raised Spoiler for it in real life)

Just wanted to make a public Thank You to him.

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Carlo, I'm glad to see you haven't shut down for the winter. Limbo is coming along nicely!

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Where did he go?

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RBS2 she finally has a new companion we picked him up in Seattle...




 
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Where did he go?


Now in mine golden years the plate is pretty much full and loving it, I should have some free time in March to play with her too

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Allllllright !! That means more tweeking for us to see ! Congratulations.

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