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RBS in-Limbo (extreme makeover) by Car-Lo
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man that thing is low and sexy !



oooooh man those hips !! You nailed it.

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Car-lo
thanks for the reply
I really apreciate it

I have to tell you, that you do more w/ that long block n drill than must people could dream about.
No reason to laugh at all

Also I think is really nice that you have a friend like Clint, kudos to Clint

What weight of Fiberglass are you using ? 1.5 oz or .75 oz. ?

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Car-2-lo;

Excellent job on the panels. These look way lighter than the old rbs......

The shape is really turning out nicely. This will be a very sleek car when u r done.

Keep going.
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Originally posted by 85LAMB:

Car-lo
thanks for the reply
I really apreciate it

I have to tell you, that you do more w/ that long block n drill than must people could dream about.
No reason to laugh at all

Also I think is really nice that you have a friend like Clint, kudos to Clint

What weight of Fiberglass are you using ? 1.5 oz or .75 oz. ?


Mr. 85LAMB, sounds like you have much more info than me, as weight of fiberglass I just say one yard of that one and one yard of the other
( next time I'll get that info on weight of fiberglass ) I'll still try to do step by step build and showing tools.

Yip, everybody's lucky to have Clynt here at WCF Club, maybe we'll send Clynt over to Florida and push you to finish your project ?


Back today's fun...
Started to work on rear pillars, I'm using Fiero roof panel, template on roof panel and ready for cutting



Cut off with grinder cutting wheel



Pillar shown on chopper







Trimmed more off at bottom



That's as far I got today, had a little ouch
I shreded tip of finger with grinder, my niece drove me to emergency (now I can't play guitar )



Tomorrow I'll finish pillars if nothing else happens

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Damn it John, you are not allowed to hurt yourself. I think its time Lisa buys some more mechanics gloves for the club raffle then rig it so you win them next time you are there. My mechanics gloves have saved my fingers from many many careless accidents, and you have seen how I work, safety be damned.

Got an odd question for you, Lisa and I just finally delivered your spare door glass that you dropped at my place to the locker, and it got me thinking, with your new chop are you going to be able to use your current chopper glass, or do you have to find new ones? If you are going to get new ones, do you want to sell your current ones. Ever since you twisted my arm to think about chopping the 857 I can't get it out of my head. So I am starting to put stuff aside for a "some day" project on it.

P.S. If you do decide to work with the bandage on, a coil of electrical tape around the bandage will keep it on, and if you rip open any stitches or cuts, super glue works amazing at closing it back up so you can get back to work without making parts a bloody mess. You don't want to stain your new work ya know, that fiberglass will absorb the blood and make it hard to paint, LOL.

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Wow, sorry you got hurt. I ripped the flesh off the tip of my thumb once when it got caught between leafs of a rear spring so I know how you feel.

I've become addicted to this thread in recent weeks so heal quickly and I can keep up with my fix every day.

The only thing I have a question about is that space between the rear "bumpers" showing the tire tread. Aren't there mudflap laws in Canada? It seems to me the Police could really give you a hard time about that. Don't get me wrong, it looks awesome. What about a matte black inner wheelwell that goes around the circumference of the tire and also gives an anchor point for all those points on the valance, bumper parts and side skirts for extra strength?

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The only thing I have a question about is that space between the rear "bumpers" showing the tire tread. Aren't there mudflap laws in Canada? It seems to me the Police could really give you a hard time about that. Don't get me wrong, it looks awesome. What about a matte black inner wheelwell that goes around the circumference of the tire and also gives an anchor point for all those points on the valance, bumper parts and side skirts for extra strength?



Thanks for asking...
Clynt said not to worry, I will be putting back liners just stopping at open area shown on red mark, if there's a problem I'll slide in a panel covering cutout area .
The rocker panels and defuser wing will have custom hidden frame holding everything.




Today's play...
Fastback pillars are from body parts (Fiero roof), not enough lengh, so I had to add pieces and fiberglass together.

Fiberglassing back (to much hot sun)



Front (that's better)



Using aluminum angles bent to shape flowing pillars



Pro-Form to bond aluminum angles to pillars







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Damn it John, you are not allowed to hurt yourself. I think its time Lisa buys some more mechanics gloves for the club raffle then rig it so you win them next time you are there. My mechanics gloves have saved my fingers from many many careless accidents, and you have seen how I work, safety be damned.

Got an odd question for you, Lisa and I just finally delivered your spare door glass that you dropped at my place to the locker, and it got me thinking, with your new chop are you going to be able to use your current chopper glass, or do you have to find new ones? If you are going to get new ones, do you want to sell your current ones. Ever since you twisted my arm to think about chopping the 857 I can't get it out of my head. So I am starting to put stuff aside for a "some day" project on it.

P.S. If you do decide to work with the bandage on, a coil of electrical tape around the bandage will keep it on, and if you rip open any stitches or cuts, super glue works amazing at closing it back up so you can get back to work without making parts a bloody mess. You don't want to stain your new work ya know, that fiberglass will absorb the blood and make it hard to paint, LOL.



Thanks for the tip Capt. (ouch), I do have mechanics gloves, it's that texting, never while grinding stitches come out next Friday
The side windows I'll be using for RBS-2 also the spares, we'll see you a next meeting


Back to RBS-2
Today my nephew and I installed fastback pillars



Using Pro-Form, had to screw down at bottom, no room for clamps (screws will be removed)



Other side









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This thing is going to be absolutely stunning - enjoying watching the bar being raised to new heights!

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Wow...just...wow!

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WOW !!!!
I LOVE the lines, this is turning out great

I have to say that I definetly don't know anywhere near as much as you...
If I did, it would not take me as long to get stuff done on my project and I would not have to ask you so many questions

more questions
did you keep the mouting points on the top of the rear clip, right behind the grills ?
Or did you just leave them off ?
I am wondering since you move the upper rear pillars further in


ps one of the guys from our club took a pic of my little project,
I hope you don't mind that I "borrow" some of your ideas
http://centralfloridafieros...p?topic=2000.new#new

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This thing is going to be absolutely stunning - enjoying watching the bar being raised to new heights!

Jim


Or new lows as it were!! Great progress!!!

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Ok, people can officially call off the hit squads that were contracted to take me out for sending John the concept pictures that sparked this whole redux.



This one is going to make the original car look like chopped liver,.............with onions.

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Thank you everyone for the compliments and a special thanks to exoticse for making this happen

The windshield, roof and fastback pillars flow nicer together now



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A little update today...
Clynt and I playing with rear suspension, we had to get a rough alignment done before any more body work, so we can work around the wheels.



The right rear wheel was way off, couldn't get enough camber adjustment with the camber bolt, so we tried stock bolt and it worked.



I was getting pretty fast taking wheel off and on (did that many times today)



Clynt's dog was helping out too



BIG TIME TWEAK...
Yip, it's hood # 3 or # 4 or # 5, I lost count



Notice hood overhang on front

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From the drawing to the real thing it looks pretty close in length I think.



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A bit of (an aggressive) TWEAK...
Was not to happy with skinny rear pillars, so I went with fatter pillars





My nephew Antony sanding merging pillars and roof smooth







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I like it - thicker pillars give it a more aggressive look!

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I like it - thicker pillars give it a more aggressive look!

Jim


Thanks Jim, it's slowly getting better

This afternoon Clynt came riding in...



He got right to playing, with new hood (has to be tweaked to fit)



We put back the old hood to mock up (showing overhang))



Remember that old Mazda front nose (I had for many years) well, we might use it





Overall look with Antony in bkgd.



Clynt playing, mocking up front fender



Notice a little hump on top of fender



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Looking goooooooood !

Great choice on the nose. looks lambo like without being a clone.

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That thing is looking freaking amazing man.....you've got some mad fabrication and bodywork skills. Peace

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Nice pillars and fender.

Put me down as a no vote on the fast bumper. It needs to be more MadMax IMO similar to the rear bumper area.

On the other hand if you do it up all custom maybe it would come out OK.

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Looking goooooooood !

Great choice on the nose. looks lambo like without being a clone.


Thanks, but now it's to Ferrari-ish looking, that nose was meant for RBS1 with Ferrari style rear bumper ( it's not a clone, just a bad copy)





We'll see what happens with this nose...

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Nice pillars and fender.

Put me down as a no vote on the fast bumper. It needs to be more MadMax IMO similar to the rear bumper area.

On the other hand if you do it up all custom maybe it would come out OK.


Thanks satinta, you're right on it's got to look more MadMax even with some tread showing in the front.

Red marked are opened wheel, I'm thinking tweaking front same as rear

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Car-Lo;

Looking beautiful. Will the rear section of the sail panel remain a vent opening into the engine bay area? That shape where the rear section of the sail panel looks like it would really accept an opening well. You can have the side window flat as you have in your drawing and then an opening on the outside of that.

Looking great and keep posting with the updates.

Cheers
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Just an idea, on the nose, where the 2 outer holes are if you cut the sides out of them (the outside sides) which would expose the front of the tires, it would make it look like the rear with just the two fangs, (center posts) holding the lower air splitter. It might be a bit of a bugger to stiffen it all up, but it would allow you to use the nose and have it look like the rear of the car.

I am sorry I can't explain it that well, hopefully with your wild imagination you can get what I am saying.

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Remember that old Mazda front nose (I had for many years) well, we might use it





I admire people who are thinking outside the box. Keep up the good work.

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this is one of my favorite threads to watch, the craftwork and skills just go beyond everything I have seen so far. I know you have been working on this a long time. I saved a picture of the sketch. it looks unbelievable. but I dont think Ive seen a motor, or even motor talk. what do we got under this madmax inspired car? however evn tho I dont have much to say, I just wanted to voice my opinion that this is a great looking car. much work is still needed. but I cannot wait to see it completed.

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The motor is a rather perfect, 3800 S/C hooked to a Getrag 5spd, IIRC 3.4 inch pulley, custom exhaust and lots of little things. Engine was put together by Blair a forum member here and local forum member. Blair has since moved out of Fiero's but still does maintance to cars he built for people when they need it.

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There are a few pics of the motor here, http://westcoastfieros.com/...?TID=133&PN=1&TPN=16

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it is nice. what more of a proper motor then a gm3800sc? def since that car is already looking like a slick fast paced race car.

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great job ,what are your plans for side mirrors

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Car-Lo;

Looking beautiful. Will the rear section of the sail panel remain a vent opening into the engine bay area? That shape where the rear section of the sail panel looks like it would really accept an opening well. You can have the side window flat as you have in your drawing and then an opening on the outside of that.

Looking great and keep posting with the updates.

Cheers
Don


Thanks Don, you're psychic, that's what I had in mind I'll be doing something like the Aventador scoop at end of sail panel (no clone, we have to say that every time )
Don't forget to drop in when you zip over to mainland.

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I admire people who are thinking outside the box. Keep up the good work.



Thank you so much Madcurl,
with hood overhang we are planing to have lights located something like the Mangusta



Roughly drawn lights in, something to tweak and play with...

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Thank you so much Madcurl,
with hood overhang we are planing to have lights located something like the Mangusta



Roughly drawn lights in, something to tweak and play with...





Had to play with that idea what do you think?



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great job ,what are your plans for side mirrors


Thanks, motorcycle mirrors on ebay $29 US, if I use them I'll fabricate mounts (same as RBS1)





Added panel under pillar to make it kook beefy and finished



Playing with scoop mock up





Trimmed old RBS sail panel to fit RBS2



Difference between stock and RBS2 it's half size

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Originally posted by 85SEnochie:


Had to play with that idea what do you think?




It's to Ferrai-ish, (not that there's anything wrong with it) at least we tried again .

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Here's the scoop...













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All I can say is , WOW! Great superior work going on here. Cant wait to see what you do to that rear deck lid!

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