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Do explain.


You call me ignorant for my beliefs, I view you the same way for being blinded by political correctness.
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You call me ignorant for my beliefs, I view you the same way for being blinded by political correctness.


To be clear you called your self ignorant.
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How NOT to handle things.
Twitter Lynch Mob Calls for Zimmerman's Death
http://www.newsmax.com/US/z...al&promo_code=EB91-1
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Originally posted by avengador1:

How NOT to handle things.
Twitter Lynch Mob Calls for Zimmerman's Death
http://www.newsmax.com/US/z...al&promo_code=EB91-1


Pointing that out apparently makes you racist in some people's eyes.
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Pointing that out apparently makes you racist in some people's eyes.


How so? By whom? And can you tell the race of all the people who tweeted somehow?

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How so? By whom? And can you tell the race of all the people who tweeted somehow?



Responses like that make me think you're more interested in just arguing - whatever you can find to argue. Just not interested in indulging you.
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Responses like that make me think you're more interested in just arguing - whatever you can find to argue. Just not interested in indulging you.
Good night.


Not arguing at all. I thought they were legitimate questions, it's fine if you won't answer for whatever reason, have a good one!
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By whom?



By you for one.

And I agree with Formula88. You just want to argue.

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To be clear you called your self ignorant.


 
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Previously posted by Pennock's own oblivious to the obvious, and eager to argue - the Newf!:

Ignorant much?


No you hippy dipshit, maybe it's all the drugs from your past years catching up to you, but you cast the first stone branding me "ignorant" because I don't choose to view the world through the same rose colored glasses as you seem to.

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By you for one.

And I agree with Formula88. You just want to argue.

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You'll be sure to point out where I called Avengador1 racist won't you. I'm actually not arguing at all but hey feel free to think so.
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No you hippy dipshit, maybe it's all the drugs from your past years catching up to you, but you cast the first stone branding me "ignorant" because I don't choose to view the world through the same rose colored glasses as you seem to.


Wow.... you know me so well.

Go back and read my friend you said this didn't you?


 
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If stating this makes me ignorant, than so be it.



I just agreed with you.
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You'll be sure to point out where I called Avengador1 racist won't you. I'm actually not arguing at all but hey feel free to think so.


So in order to prove my belief that you are calling other people here a racist, I have to prove that you called someone that has consistently agreed with you in this thread a racist? Yea, like he's who I meant.

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my guess is that by page 31, just about everyone has clearly expressed their opinion, and further (actually, past about page 5) posting indicates a fondness for argumentation.
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So in order to prove my belief that you are calling other people here a racist, I have to prove that you called someone that has consistently agreed with you in this thread a racist? Yea, like he's who I meant.

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I see, so I'm arguing and calling people racist...interesting I thought this was a forum for discussion.

You'll be sure to point out where I called ANYONE racist.
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Just to clarify I'm unsure how asking people questions to clarify what they are thinking or saying is arguing but I'm sure someone will chime in....maybe a group of people will.

Do people still discuss things from differing points of view without it considered arguing and getting butt hurt??

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Do people still discuss things from differing points of view without it considered arguing and getting butt hurt??

yes, it happens.
discussion (as opposed to argumentation) requires that participants actually read (or listen to) what the other people are saying, and that they refrain from directing insults at each other.

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yes, it happens.
discussion (as opposed to argumentation) requires that participants actually read (or listen to) what the other people are saying, and that they refrain from directing insults at each other.


Agreed.

Edit to add.

I've always found an effective way to listen to others is ask questions about what they are indeed saying after they have been given an opportunity to say what they like, as I have tried to do here, unfortunatley some people seem to get upset when what they say is looked at and discussed in more depth. shrug.

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Agreed.
well, dang!

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Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are 2 of the countries biggest racists. Its just as racist to get blacks powered up for rioting against whites as it is vice-versa. They dont want to call the kettle black. Black Panthers are fine, but KKK is not ? wtf.
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Black Panthers are fine, but KKK is not ? wtf.

neither is fine if they circumvent the legal process and resort to or advocate violence.
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neither is fine if they circumvent the legal process and resort to or advocate violence.





So you've heard reports of charges brought against the New Black Panthers?

Well, at least they're not engaging in voter intimidation, right?

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So you've heard reports of charges brought against the New Black Panthers?

Well, at least they're not engaging in voter intimidation, right?


Maybe we white folk should throw a fit and demand that these bastads be arrested?
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So you've heard reports of charges brought against the New Black Panthers?

no, but then i'm not obsessing over this case, so i wouldnt know if they had. i think the people who printed the posters should be charged with making terroristic threats, but that's another case.
trayvon is dead, and unless the forensics come up with something damning, we may have to accept zimmerman's word for what happened, irrespective of the blowhards on both sides. i think i've amply stated my case, and i'm done here. carry on.
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Maybe we white folk should throw a fit and demand that these bastads be arrested?


That would be racist.
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Hmmm...Zimmerman is part black.

George Zimmerman: Prelude to a shooting

The 28-year-old insurance-fraud investigator comes from a deeply Catholic background and was taught in his early years to do right by those less fortunate. He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him.
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Hmmm...Zimmerman is part black.

George Zimmerman: Prelude to a shooting

The 28-year-old insurance-fraud investigator comes from a deeply Catholic background and was taught in his early years to do right by those less fortunate. He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him.


So by the same law quoted earlier, he's a Black Man.

I'll step back now so Newf can continue to insinuate people are racists until they call him on it....

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So by the same law quoted earlier, he's a Black Man.

I'll step back now so Newf can continue to insinuate people are racists until they call him on it....

Brad


Some seem to see people calling (or now insinuating) others racist a lot. Throwing that "card" out there is similar to throwing the racist card out there IMO. I suppose it's a good blanket statement to attempt to discredit anything they say.

For the record I don't feel I was insinuating anything, I stated what I wanted and asked questions about peoples statements.


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Well, I guess it's on now...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2...ayvon/#ixzz1t7RoG81j

Way to go Obama for sticking your head into something that you have no business making comments on as the President.

Surprised he found the time considering how many TV shows he's had to be on.


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Some seem to see people calling (or now insinuating) others racist a lot. Throwing that "card" out there is similar to throwing the racist card out there IMO. I suppose it's a good blanket statement to attempt to discredit anything they say.

For the record I don't feel I was insinuating anything, I stated what I wanted and asked questions about peoples statements.



Questions like

 
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Tell us who do you mean when saying "These people"? Or should we just infer from you previous post?


Like I said, you only played that game until people started calling you on it, now you're "Mr. Innocent".

Don't worry, it's typical of "discussions" on the internet. Since we don't agree 100% with your views we must be racists.

In the meantime anyone that is really racist is hoping Zimmerman goes to prison for a long time, as he's Hispanic, and the racists don't care for those people either. This is an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone so to speak, but you're too busy thinking people are being racist to see that side of things.

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Like I said, you only played that game until people started calling you on it, now you're "Mr. Innocent".

Don't worry, it's typical of "discussions" on the internet. Since we don't agree 100% with your views we must be racists.

In the meantime anyone that is really racist is hoping Zimmerman goes to prison for a long time, as he's Hispanic, and the racists don't care for those people either. This is an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone so to speak, but you're too busy thinking people are being racist to see that side of things.

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People calling me on what? You are supposedly calling me on calling other people racist but I asked questions and let the person speak for themselves, you can infer whatever you want from it. I NEVER called anyone racist, I DID say the person in question was ignorant and I believe he was being so.

You however seem to see people screaming that others are racist everywhere as evidenced by various posts of yours, I really can't help what you think.


Best of luck though.

 
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Like I said, you only played that game until people started calling you on it, now you're "Mr. Innocent".

Don't worry, it's typical of "discussions" on the internet. Since we don't agree 100% with your views we must be racists.

Clearly....huh

 
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In the meantime anyone that is really racist is hoping Zimmerman goes to prison for a long time, as he's Hispanic, and the racists don't care for those people either. This is an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone so to speak, but you're too busy thinking people are being racist to see that side of things.

Brad


Ummmm OK????

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Like I said, you only played that game until people started calling you on it, now you're "Mr. Innocent".

Don't worry, it's typical of "discussions" on the internet. Since we don't agree 100% with your views we must be racists.

In the meantime anyone that is really racist is hoping Zimmerman goes to prison for a long time, as he's Hispanic, and the racists don't care for those people either. This is an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone so to speak, but you're too busy thinking people are being racist to see that side of things.

Brad


Brad, arguing with Newf is pointless. To put it bluntly, he thinks his crap doesn't stink, and anyone who doesn't hold the same extreme left wing beliefs as himself is either a racist or ignorant.

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Well, at least they're not engaging in voter intimidation, right?


The same two guys....AGAIN???

If I call the right people in Philly, I could probably get you an autographed picture if you want.

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The same two guys....AGAIN???

If I call the right people in Philly, I could probably get you an autographed picture if you want.


Be sure to get one for your friend Obama as well, he seems to be a big fan of them and their methods.

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Be sure to get one for your friend Obama as well, he seems to be a big fan of them and their methods.



Obama can probably get his own if he wished....I could maybe get you one as well, though.

Who would you want it made out to?
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I'm so sorry, Doni. How insensitive of me to forget that guys wielding billy clubs in front of a polling station is totally cool if you're black.
I'm sure you'd support the KKK offering security patrols of polling places in your precint too. It's such a non-story.
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I'm so sorry, Doni. How insensitive of me to forget that guys wielding billy clubs in front of a polling station is totally cool if you're black.
I'm sure you'd support the KKK offering security patrols of polling places in your precint too. It's such a non-story.


In front of a polling place in the middle of a predominately Black housing development intimidated no one to my knowledge.

Perhaps the KKK in front of one in your neighborhood wouldn't bother you either.

Like you said.....It's such a non-story.
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Well, I guess it's on now...

Todd


Oh it’s been on!

Still waiting for Michelle Obama to call the murder and child abduction of an unarmed white woman by an armed black woman a tragedy!

SPRING, Texas (AP) -- A newborn boy was abducted from his dying mother after she was repeatedly shot outside a suburban Houston pediatric center on Tuesday, according to investigators searching for the suspected shooter who sped off with the infant in a blood-stained Lexus.
The mother, 28-year-old Kayla Marie Golden, was walking to her pickup truck after a checkup with her 3-day-old son, Keegan, when she had a verbal altercation with a woman in a Lexus parked next to her, Montgomery County sheriff's Lt. Dan Norris said.
Witnesses said the woman repeatedly shot Golden, took her infant and sped away, hitting Golden as she screamed "my baby" and tried to reach into the Lexus, Norris said. Witnesses also reported hearing as many as seven gunshots and said a man also was in the Lexus, which is blood-stained on the driver's side, Norris said.
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WASHINGTON -- First lady Michelle Obama says her "heart goes out to the parents" of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, the unarmed teenager who was fatally shot by a neighborhood watch volunteer in Florida.

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Brad, arguing with Newf is pointless. To put it bluntly, he thinks his crap doesn't stink, and anyone who doesn't hold the same extreme left wing beliefs as himself is either a racist or ignorant.



Just remember it was YOU who called YOURSELF ignorant and seemed to be quite proud of the fact for that matter.

You seem to think you know my beliefs and what I think of others. You assume too much IMO.

Anyhoo maybe there will be some more deveopments in the case soon so we can get back on topic

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Just remember it was YOU who called YOURSELF ignorant and seemed to be quite proud of the fact for that matter.

You seem to think you know my beliefs and what I think of others. You assume too much IMO.


How bloody clueless are you? YOU were the one who first said "Ignorant much" after my earlier post about the impending riots being discussed on twitter. I replied by saying if holding my views on the issue makes me "ignorant" in your eyes, than so be it. I'd rather wear your badge of "ignorance" than be an "enlightened" idiot like yourself.

I'm done with you, you're hopeless.

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So here's what happens when you call someone on their reverse racism. (I'd just call it racism but no sense in being PC at this point.)


  • "I was joking, you obviously can't read between the lines."
  • "...................................................................." (Ignore)
  • "I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy here."
  • "I wasn't calling anyone racist, you just read that into it."


Good times. I find it funny (not haha) that Doni claims to not be associated with the Black Panthers, but can get us autographed pictures from the New Black Panthers. How does that work?

I'll take one Doni, have em make it out to David Duke, see if they can draw a cross on the picture somewhere. At least I'll make a buck from this mess.

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