With nutrition and high fatty foods kids are physically growing faster than ever before. In fact girls are sexually maturing sooner, some as young as 11 are in puberty, and this is more so in the african american population. This is not racist but well know within the medical community that AA physically mature sooner than the white or asian population.
These factors considered there is a white male child here at the age of 11 killed his step mother, by shotgun, and is now being detained as a juvenile. He is 14 now, and there was consideration of letting him out of the detention center where he is currently living. I thought to myself, "what harm could a 14 year old boy be?" He is six foot tall and weighs 180 pounds. Hardly, a small harmless little kid!!!
My point, many of what we considered harmless little kids by age in the past, are actually more threatening than we think. Kids are also committing more adult crimes at an earlier age. A trend that has been going on since the 70's.
Just my Sunday morning commentary.
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The Second Amedment is no longer a right. It is more like a privilege. It is the only Amendment that is regulated by the gooberment and requires a background check in order to exercise your "RIGHT". In most states you must take a class ($$$), pass a background check ($$$), be fingerprinted ($$$) and obtain a permit ($$$) in order to carry concealed. Here in Florida, the class is between $50 - $100 depending on where you go, the background check is $5, fingerprints are $10 and the permit is $117. $232 just to exercise my "RIGHT". Show me any other Constitutional Right that will cost me money to exercise.
I understand where you're coming from, and laws vary from state to state, but in my state you can open carry or concealed carry on your own property without any permit. If you want to travel in public armed, then you need a permit to carry a concealed handgun. Long arms can be purchased without a permit and you are free to carry them on or off your property as you see fit.
So while there are restrictions as you say, they don't apply to all types of arms.
Media and family are great to show Zimmermans 'mug shot' alongside a 13 year old kid. To me most 17 year olds are full grown adults that just arent technically of 'legal age' yet. They say and try to make Martin a child ( his parents words). Again a 17 year old is not a child EXCEPT to their parents. He may be a typical immature teenager, but that dont mean hes a child. In a few months, he would have been legally an adult anyway.
Yeah, it's beginning to seem like this is their portrayal...
Released on $150,000 bail. Again, from the news video clip..he doesn't look at ALL a 'threatening power-mad gunslinger'...probably because this was a contemporary and 'off the cuff' video clip, noth a 'doctored' clip..by EITHER side
Released on $150,000 bail. Again, from the news video clip..he doesn't look at ALL a 'threatening power-mad gunslinger'...probably because this was a contemporary and 'off the cuff' video clip, noth a 'doctored' clip..by EITHER side
Doesn't take a anyone to look threatening or power mad to shoot and kill someone, even kids can do it.
Quite right newf ...but the original photos of Mr.Zimmerman were objective in painting as 'unpleasant' as possible vision....and those of Mr. Martin the complete opposite. Why should photos/videos be used in the Public Domain in the first place, other than trying to trace somebody wanted for a crime? IMHO, SIMPLY to create an atmosphere decided by the Media. Insofar as people facing charges and appearing in court to be 'tried', past activity is not allowed to be used. Equally, prior to charge and trial, images of the people involved should not be allowed in the Public Domain, purely and simply to avoid this type of media 'asassination' or 'vindication', IWHT Edit to add: this might curtail the invasive and unsavoury behaviour of the uncontrolled Paparazzi behaviour
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Quite right newf ...but the original photos of Mr.Zimmerman were objective in painting as 'unpleasant' as possible vision....and those of Mr. Martin the complete opposite. Why should photos/videos be used in the Public Domain in the first place, other than trying to trace somebody wanted for a crime? IMHO, SIMPLY to create an atmosphere decided by the Media. Insofar as people facing charges and appearing in court to be 'tried', past activity is not allowed to be used. Equally, prior to charge and trial, images of the people involved should not be allowed in the Public Domain, purely and simply to avoid this type of media 'asassination' or 'vindication', IWHT Edit to add: this might curtail the invasive and unsavoury behaviour of the uncontrolled Paparazzi behaviour
As I asked earlier it would be interesting to know how the media obtained it's pics and which ones they had access to. Is it the family that released the pics of Trayvon? Was the pic of Zimmerman from his previous arrests? intersting questions
Not that I don't think the media likes to slant their reporting but I'd like to know how these things happen.
Im sure the parents wanted to portray their son to everyone as their 'child '. Thats the only term they use. They dont want anyone to hear any of the negs about him, like stealing, getting expelled from school, etc. Im sure they would tell you stories of how he nursed a poor birdy back to health, or takes elderly people to the doctors office if they could. They only want you to see him as that cute 13 year old angel (as would most parents). Im sure we all know people who brag how good their little terrors are.
The fact that Martin was a teenager doesn't make it unreasonable to think he could kill. If it's demonstrated Zimmerman was reasonable to fear for his life and that Martin initiated hostilities, Zimmerman should be acquitted.
The fact that Martin was a teenager doesn't make it unreasonable to think he could kill. If it's demonstrated Zimmerman was reasonable to fear for his life and that Martin initiated hostilities, Zimmerman should be acquitted.
Of course! I assume that will be the defenses position. I also assume that the prosecution will attempt to show that Zimmerman unfairly profiled Martin as some kind of criminal and disregarding the advice of the dispatcher followed, confronted and subsequently murdered a unarmed child.
Of course! I assume that will be the defenses position. I also assume that the prosecution will attempt to show that Zimmerman unfairly profiled Martin as some kind of criminal and disregarding the advice of the dispatcher followed, confronted and subsequently murdered a unarmed child.
I'm sure they will. It will be difficult even with a witness to prove Zimmerman initiated a confrontation since Zimmerman's phone call says he lost sight of Martin and was returning to his vehicle. (from what I've heard on the tape) Of course, I have no way of knowing if that's an accurate representation of the phone call since we've already seen some media outlets editing the recording to paint Zimmerman as a racist.
The FL law is pretty clear. In the absence of compelling evidence, the person claiming self defense is presumed innocent. Under the law, Zimmerman doesn't have to prove his innocence - the prosecution has to prove his guilt. If it goes to a jury trial, I really don't see 12 people agreeing to convict on 2nd degree murder. It'll be interesting to see what evidence is revealed in court to see how it matches up with the various media stories. I'm hoping justice is done; whether that's convicting Zimmerman or acquitting him. I'd hate to think he might take a plea deal if he is indeed innocent.
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By: WKRG Staff | WKRG Published: April 23, 2012 » 337 Comments | Post a Comment MOBILE, Alabama -- Mobile police need your help to catch a mob that beat Matthew Owens so badly that he's in critical condition.
According to police, Owens fussed at some kids playing basketball in the middle of Delmar Drive about 8:30 Saturday night. They say the kids left and a group of adults returned, armed with everything but the kitchen sink.
Police tell News 5 the suspects used chairs, pipes and paint cans to beat Owens.
Owens' sister, Ashley Parker, saw the attack. "It was the scariest thing I have ever witnessed." Parker says 20 people, all African American, attacked her brother on the front porch of his home, using "brass buckles, paint cans and anything they could get their hands on."
Police will only say "multiple people" are involved.
What Parker says happened next could make the fallout from the brutal beating even worse. As the attackers walked away, leaving Owen bleeding on the ground, Parker says one of them said "Now thats justice for Trayvon." Trayvon Martin is the unarmed teenager police say was shot and killed February 26 by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman in Samford, Florida.
Police canvassed the area, but did not find any suspects. They're asking anyone with information to call them at 251-208-7211, Crime Stoppers at 251-208-7000, or text a tip to 274637 and include the keyword CRIME 411.
Brad
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I'm sure they will. It will be difficult even with a witness to prove Zimmerman initiated a confrontation since Zimmerman's phone call says he lost sight of Martin and was returning to his vehicle. (from what I've heard on the tape) Of course, I have no way of knowing if that's an accurate representation of the phone call since we've already seen some media outlets editing the recording to paint Zimmerman as a racist.
The FL law is pretty clear. In the absence of compelling evidence, the person claiming self defense is presumed innocent. Under the law, Zimmerman doesn't have to prove his innocence - the prosecution has to prove his guilt. If it goes to a jury trial, I really don't see 12 people agreeing to convict on 2nd degree murder. It'll be interesting to see what evidence is revealed in court to see how it matches up with the various media stories. I'm hoping justice is done; whether that's convicting Zimmerman or acquitting him. I'd hate to think he might take a plea deal if he is indeed innocent.
If Obama had twenty children, they would look like the twenty blacks that just beat this man to a pulp. Just saying....
One does have to wonder, why is there no condemnation coming from the black community for all these racially motivated attacks happening as of late? They seemed to mobilize an entire army within hours of Trayvon's death, why no action for these other acts? It almost reminds one of the muslim community, who become very vocal - and many times violent - if the slightest offense takes place against their religion, yet remain in silence when time and time again their people carry out their acts of terrrorism against non-believers.
It's too bad that you folks chose to elect probably the biggest "divider" in the history of your country with the election of 'Bama. Any other president would choose not to make comments to incite these sort of acts of violence, but rather try and ease racial tensions in such situations as the Zimmerman / Martin case. Oh well, if Obama's twenty kids end up getting charged, at least they can hope for a presidential pardon from their hypothetical dad. After all, they were all just out to get skittles and ice tea when this man obviously angered them.
I do have to say, I am pretty amazed at the above link regarding the black community mobilizing for impending riots should the courts not serve the justice they demand. I'm impressed they managed to take time off from rioting over a lack of the latest Nike Air Jordan sneakers at the shopping centres to fit this in their busy schedule. Maybe 'Bama will score a few more votes and arm them all with new sneakers before the perenial $hit hits the fan?
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One does have to wonder, why is there no condemnation coming from the black community for all these racially motivated attacks happening as of late?
SO do you think that the black community is supporting "all these racially motivated attacks happening as of late" ?
I doubt you'd find many that would support any racial attacks no matter who you asked though I'm sure there are idiots in every race that would but I highly doubt they are the majority.
But hey I guess it sounds better to some your way, you know keeping the fear and hate alive by generalizing. Have fun with that.
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I do have to say, I am pretty amazed at the above link regarding the black community mobilizing for impending riots should the courts not serve the justice they demand. I'm impressed they managed to take time off from rioting over a lack of the latest Nike Air Jordan sneakers at the shopping centres to fit this in their busy schedule. Maybe 'Bama will score a few more votes and arm them all with new sneakers before the perenial $hit hits the fan?
Ignorant much?
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Nope. Just pointing out the obvious that if these folks put half as much time into looking for a job or trying to better themselves as they did trying to find reasons to riot or incite violence - then maybe we wouldn't need the Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson's of the world.
Nope. Just pointing out the obvious that if these folks put half as much time into looking for a job or trying to better themselves as they did trying to find reasons to riot or incite violence - then maybe we wouldn't need the Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson's of the world.
An idle mind is the devil's workshop.
Keep digging.
Tell us who do you mean when saying "These people"? Or should we just infer from you previous post?
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I am pretty amazed at the above link regarding the black community mobilizing for impending riots should the courts not serve the justice they demand. I'm impressed they managed to take time off from rioting over a lack of the latest Nike Air Jordan sneakers at the shopping centres to fit this in their busy schedule.
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SO do you think that the black community is supporting "all these racially motivated attacks happening as of late" ?
I for one don't think the black community supports "all these racially motivated attacks happening as of late." I think they ignore it, and if/when they do condemn it, they do so with a much quieter voice than they use to call for George Zimmerman's head on a platter.
I think there's a very large portion of the black community that would never admit it, but deep down is smiling at this thinking turnabout is fair play. Complaints of "lynch mobs" going after Zimmerman are met with thoughts of "oh, NOW you don't like lynch mobs? Now you know how we felt in the 60's!"
Of course, most would never give voice to such an opinion and will claim to be offended that I even suggested it, although we've seen the more extreme examples post fervently about it on the internet, twitter, etc. That is not to say all people in the black community think that. There are some people, of all colors, who's existence is defined by the content of their character and not color of their skin.
Odd I didn't notice anything about Twitter in your posts, maybe I was mistaken?
My comment was about the "link above" regarding the riots. If you had read the link above it was a bunch of angry blacks on twitter threatening to riot. I guess Pennock's needs a NewfChecker option to review if a post is obvious enough in it's nature for you to comprehend.
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I for one don't think the black community supports "all these racially motivated attacks happening as of late." I think they ignore it, and if/when they do condemn it, they do so with a much quieter voice than they use to call for George Zimmerman's head on a platter.
I think there's a very large portion of the black community that would never admit it, but deep down is smiling at this thinking turnabout is fair play. Complaints of "lynch mobs" going after Zimmerman are met with thoughts of "oh, NOW you don't like lynch mobs? Now you know how we felt in the 60's!"
Of course, most would never give voice to such an opinion and will claim to be offended that I even suggested it, although we've seen the more extreme examples post fervently about it on the internet, twitter, etc. That is not to say all people in the black community think that. There are some people, of all colors, who's existence is defined by the content of their character and not color of their skin.
Agreed.
I do however think that those that saying they "ignore it" it paralells how other groups feel about fringe people. Why would anyone think that such people speak for the larger group?
Take the KKK or skinheads or similar fringe groups... Do white people feel the need to condemn everything that they do publically in a overt fashion, or even follow what they do? It's the same argument I've heard about Muslims and 9-11.... if they aren't protesting en-masse in a public way then they by default support it. I don't buy it.
My comment was about the "link above" regarding the riots. If you had read the link above it was a bunch of angry blacks on twitter threatening to riot. I guess Pennock's needs a NewfChecker option to review if a post is obvious enough in it's nature for you to comprehend.
Good one. well thanks for clearing up the fact that you were just stereotyping the "bunch of angry blacks". I'd like to hear how you explain how it was only blacks that were buying the sneakers as well.
I do however think that those that saying they "ignore it" it paralells how other groups feel about fringe people. Why would anyone think that such people speak for the larger group?
Take the KKK or skinheads or similar fringe groups... Do white people feel the need to condemn everything that they do publically in a overt fashion, or even follow what they do? It's the same argument I've heard about Muslims and 9-11.... if they aren't protesting en-masse in a public way then they by default support it. I don't buy it.
That is your choice. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
Good one. well thanks for clearing up the fact that you were just stereotyping the "bunch of angry blacks". I'd like to hear how you explain how it was only blacks that were buying the sneakers as well.
Rant on man!!
Well, the ones that weren't afraid to catch ammonia from being outside anyways! If you watch any of the footage of the shoe riots, trying to find a white person in the ensuing mayhem is like playing "Where's Waldo". The people involved in these shoe riots likely do so because they have nothing better to do, and are likely the same ones chomping at the bit to riot over Trayvon. If stating this makes me ignorant, than so be it.
Well, the ones that weren't afraid to catch ammonia from being outside anyways! If you watch any of the footage of the shoe riots, trying to find a white person in the ensuing mayhem is like playing "Where's Waldo". The people involved in these shoe riots likely do so because they have nothing better to do, and are likely the same ones chomping at the bit to riot over Trayvon. If stating this makes me ignorant, than so be it.
As I asked earlier it would be interesting to know how the media obtained it's pics and which ones they had access to. Is it the family that released the pics of Trayvon? Was the pic of Zimmerman from his previous arrests? intersting questions
Not that I don't think the media likes to slant their reporting but I'd like to know how these things happen.
The young picture of Trayvon probably came from the parents, and the one of Zimmerman probably came off a local arrest page for whatever county he was originally arrested in. That picture was of Zimmerman several years ago when I guess he was arrested for something (don't remember). If that's all he's ever done online, that would be the picture that would probably come up first in Google when you searched for his name. Of course, that's skewed now because he's a world-wide celebrity of sorts.
SO do you think that the black community is supporting "all these racially motivated attacks happening as of late" ?
I doubt you'd find many that would support any racial attacks no matter who you asked though I'm sure there are idiots in every race that would but I highly doubt they are the majority.
But hey I guess it sounds better to some your way, you know keeping the fear and hate alive by generalizing. Have fun with that.
I love how you are painting people to be a racist. Good show there.
You know, if someone in a group does something, and the rest of the group says nothing, and does nothing, then the group approves.
And don't even try to guess what I mean by "group". I'm sure you will make it racist.
...but the original photos of Mr.Zimmerman were objective in painting as 'unpleasant' as possible vision....and those of Mr. Martin the complete opposite.
