I realize that, you realize that most of the rest of the people who have posted on this thread have realized that. But nosrac doesn’t. Something tells me nosrac is Black and just thinks the way Jessie Jackson does that everything is a black and white thing. It isn’t this as Doni Said a tragedy. For both people the one who is dead and the shooter. Because the shooter isn’t going to get out of this alive if the blacks keep looking for Zimmerman to just string him up.
Sorry if I am wrong but he is getting on my nerves and the way he is posting sounds like he is just another Jessie Jackson or Sharpton
Steve
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Originally posted by Doni Hagan:
As far as "everyone" in the Black community is concerned, I can't speak for everybody. But we have our share of racist nutjobs as do you (e.g. "Keep America American.....Join the Klu Klux Klan!") so I can't say that one of them wouldn't theoretically do something incredibly stupid and spend the rest of his natural life with his ass behind bars. There are 35 million Black people in America and no one person speaks for all of us....not Jesse, not Sharpton (who I have yet to hear call for the death of George Zimmerman, BTW) and CERTAINLY not the "New Black Panther Party." We're just as heterogeneous as everyone else. Is there any one man who speaks for the whole of the White community?
I'm going to address this ONE last time cause it just gets my Goat!
The New Black Panther Party are a bunch of Racist Buffoons, and they really need to STFU. Why does the media give these types of people a platform anyway? Sharpton, still acts like this is the 1960's, and is stuck in a time warp so most of his rhetoric does NOT apply to today’s landscape. Jesse is a Joke and I am ashamed of what he has become. It is 2012 and IMO, race relations in this country are the BEST they ever have been in the History of the USA. I hope these type of events open courteous dialog to help solve some of our countries issues and insecurities. Some stuff people just can't talk about on because it is a purely an emotional hot spot.
***rant on *** I half AZZ apologize if this rant is offensive BUT..... For ANYONE to lump ALL Black people, All Liberals, ALL Tea Party members, or ANY large diverse of group people in a class with their Lowest common denominator is illogical, insulting, and infuriating. It's beyond dim-witted and invalidates their whole Bass Ackwards argument. It's like moe of the 3 stooges trying to give a eye exam.
Judge me based on what I say and do and NOT what comes out another person’s mouth or has done on their own merit. I am my OWN man have my own opinions and speak for myself. If you disagree or don't like what I say or how I say it then let me know. I'm a nice guy and may apologize, if I have wronged you.
The T Martin case is a tragedy but from what I have peiced together from the so called NEWS, I THINK Martin was murdered and want Mr Z to stand trial for it. The media circus surrounding this case is and takes away from the REAL issue, IMO.
..Orlando sentinel voice analysis turning out to be a crock of rat feces new cleaned video clearly show gashes in Zimmerman head. Medics cleaned Zimmerman up National News media is using EDIT to make Trayvon look good, Not showing important Video that supports Zimmerman Actually showing anything that supports Trayvon?/National left media. .. TRAYVON IS A CRIMINAL PUNK,A SLEEZBAG & THE SOONER YOU REALIZE THIS,,You will know the truth Trayvon is a low life thief,,,A THIEF,do you understand ??
..Blacks are trying to get out of central Sanford,they branch out & bring crime with them,sorry if you think this is racist,,it is the truth..Parts of Sanford are very scary ..you do not walk there in daylite if you are white..I onced lived very close to where this happen..I have lived in the very center of Sanford..Sanford had more police officers per person than any florida town in the 90,s probably still true.a dangerous place.. east chicago/gary was safer..
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I'm going to address this ONE last time cause it just gets my Goat!
The New Black Panther Party are a bunch of Racist Buffoons, and they really need to STFU. Why does the media give these types of people a platform anyway? Sharpton, still acts like this is the 1960's, and is stuck in a time warp so most of his rhetoric does NOT apply to today’s landscape. Jesse is a Joke and I am ashamed of what he has become. It is 2012 and IMO, race relations in this country are the BEST they ever have been in the History of the USA. I hope these type of events open courteous dialog to help solve some of our countries issues and insecurities. Some stuff people just can't talk about on because it is a purely an emotional hot spot.
***rant on *** I half AZZ apologize if this rant is offensive BUT..... For ANYONE to lump ALL Black people, All Liberals, ALL Tea Party members, or ANY large diverse of group people in a class with their Lowest common denominator is illogical, insulting, and infuriating. It's beyond dim-witted and invalidates their whole Bass Ackwards argument. It's like moe of the 3 stooges trying to give a eye exam.
Judge me based on what I say and do and NOT what comes out another person’s mouth or has done on their own merit. I am my OWN man have my own opinions and speak for myself. If you disagree or don't like what I say or how I say it then let me know. I'm a nice guy and may apologize, if I have wronged you.
The T Martin case is a tragedy but from what I have peiced together from the so called NEWS, I THINK Martin was murdered and want Mr Z to stand trial for it. The media circus surrounding this case is and takes away from the REAL issue, IMO.
***Rant OFF***
I've been trying to avoid this particular catfight BUT
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What groups of people did he stereo type (other than possibly The New Black Panthers)?
I've been trying to stay out of posting in this thread. But that man in the above video says exactly what I've been thinking this whole time.
To reign in my thoughts let's go back to the beginning.
1.) People believed that there may have been some lack of investigation into this tragedy after the first release of "facts". Not many people here would argue with why anyone might feel that way. 2.) That goal has been accomplished, and now there is a special prosecutor looking at this case. Not many people here would argue or be upset that the case is being looked at a little better.
Everything beyond those two points IMHO has been a circus show to cause a racial divide for personal gain. Black Panthers, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, The Media, OBAMA, Benjamin Jealous, the protest and march this last weekend (a bonafide lynch mob if i've ever seen one), are all perpetuators in this. How sick are all of these people to use a dead teenager for this?
I won't discuss the case anymore, the new videos or audio, reports, witness, ect. That is all being sorted out by someone with all of the puzzle pieces.
I'm more curious about people's actions, words, and comments about this case.
I've asked myself a lot in the last few days why Obama would say "if I had a son he would look like Trayvon". It wasn't until rereading this thread that I discovered the answer.
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Originally posted by MstangsBware:
I will say it this way....Everyone that is saying retard did nothing wrong....If this was your kid that he killed....Would you still be on retards side?
This was an attempt to make the black community look at Trayvon and think of him as their son, to IDENTIFY with him more because the color of his skin. This wasn't about the size of his nose, or ears, it was about skin color.
Judge me based on what I say and do and NOT what comes out another person’s mouth or has done on their own merit. I am my OWN man have my own opinions and speak for myself.
..Orlando sentinel voice analysis turning out to be a crock of rat feces new cleaned video clearly show gashes in Zimmerman head. Medics cleaned Zimmerman up National News media is using EDIT to make Trayvon look good, Not showing important Video that supports Zimmerman Actually showing anything that supports Trayvon?/National left media. .. TRAYVON IS A CRIMINAL PUNK,A SLEEZBAG & THE SOONER YOU REALIZE THIS,,You will know the truth Trayvon is a low life thief,,,A THIEF,do you understand ??
..Blacks are trying to get out of central Sanford,they branch out & bring crime with them,sorry if you think this is racist,,it is the truth..Parts of Sanford are very scary ..you do not walk there in daylite if you are white..I onced lived very close to where this happen..I have lived in the very center of Sanford..Sanford had more police officers per person than any florida town in the 90,s probably still true.a dangerous place.. east chicago/gary was safer..
What kind of MEDs so they keep you on down there at the nut hut? Might need to tell them they need to up the dosage. All ur post in ever Thread makes no since at all.....But as long as ur happy..
Originally posted by CoryFiero: This was an attempt to make the black community look at Trayvon and think of him as their son, to IDENTIFY with him more because the color of his skin. This wasn't about the size of his nose, or ears, it was about skin color.
Your logic makes sence but that snippent is NOT in context, and many in the Black community already feel that way towards each other...Ever hear a" Old School Black guy" call each other "Brothas"? When I personaly can relate to someone I use the "New School" term which including everyone...You guys are my Fiero, Bro's..
I know this is your opinion of what the pres meant and who knows you could be spot on but I was thinkng more like he meant "Damn, this could have been my kid that was shot", as he would have looked just like Trayvon"
Like they used imagry in the movie a Time to Kill with Samuel L Jackson and Matthew McConaughey?
Originally posted by nosrac: And it is Illegial for a Reason too! I understand your reasoning but the Looking like a thug dosen't make you one. And Looking like a Thug is NOT a crime. Looking like a Hooker is NOT justification for Rape.
No but, both looking like a thug and dressing like a hooker will get you asked to leave my property. If behave weird near my property, you will be filmed and so will you vehicle.
Your logic makes sence but that snippent is NOT in context, and many in the Black community already feel that way towards each other...Ever hear a" Old School Black guy" call each other "Brothas"?
I rarely hear the term "Brotha" anymore. They almost always use the term beginning with the letter "N" and ending in "gga".
I rarely hear the term "Brotha" anymore. They almost always use the term beginning with the letter "N" and ending in "gga".
Next time you hear them use that type of slang you need to correct them with the new slang being uses...That slang would be Ninja......used as in like....Wus up my Ninja or Ninja be trippin.....Be polite when correcting said person..
No but, both looking like a thug and dressing like a hooker will get you asked to leave my property. If behave weird near my property, you will be filmed and so will you vehicle.
Man living in Cali you must have alot of film footage....Everytime I visit Cali I see weird/odd people on a daily basis......
That image of the "injury" has been digitally enhanced. It basically is visible in only one frame of that footage and very hard to see at all in the rest.
What do you guys think will happen when/if the grand jury chooses to do nothing to Zimmerman?. From what I have seen I think jthey are going to do diddly, just like the DA.
That image of the "injury" has been digitally enhanced. It basically is visible in only one frame of that footage and very hard to see at all in the rest.
Did you read the police report? or was that enhanced too.
Also according to several articles Zimmerman was the only volunteer when the HOA decided to form the neighborhood watch, so your little "self appointed" bs needs to be changed please.
So.. since he is the only volunteer I guess that does make him the Captain of the watch or Admiral or President or whatever else he wants to call himself.
Last Tuesday, NBC's Today show aired what it said was a portion of the 911 call made by George Zimmerman shortly before he fatally shot Trayvon Martin in Februrary.
“This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black,” viewers heard Zimmerman say on the tape played by NBC.
But that's not how the call went down, as Fox News' Sean Hannity pointed out Thursday, while speaking with Brent Bozell of the Media Research Center.
The actual call went like this:
Zimmerman: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good, or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.”
911 operator: “Okay. And this guy, is he white black or Hispanic?”
Zimmerman: “He looks black.”
Hannity asked Bozell: “They forgot the dispatcher’s question! How could NBC, in good conscience, do that?”
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“This isn’t bias, this isn’t distortion, this is an all-out falsehood by NBC News,” Bozell answered.
“When you hear him say, ‘he looks black,’ anyone watching that believes that there are racial overtones to what this man did,” he added.
On Monday, radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh called the edit "typical."
"I can definitely believe NBC would doctor a tape. In fact, I expect NBC, after their investigation, to stand by this thing. You know what they're gonna say? Well, Zimmerman said it. They didn't put anything in that Zimmerman didn't say. They just left out a bunch of stuff he did say, and they left out a question he was asked. But they'll say he said it," Limbaugh added.
Calling the edit a "100 percent distortion," Limbaugh said NBC "had to knowingly and willingly edit the question of the dispatcher and then they had to edit Zimmerman saying he looks black right after he says he looks like he's up to no good."
On Saturday, Eric Wemple of the Washington Post reported that NBC said it would investigate the incident.
“We have launched an internal investigation into the editorial process surrounding this particular story,” the network said in a statement.
Limbaugh, however, wasn't buying it.
"What is there to investigate here?" he asked. "Anybody with two ears and an IQ of 50 knows what happened here. Is the investigation of who did it? Or are they investigating if it's wrong? What are they investigating at NBC? They're investigating how they can get out of this. They are investigating how they can come up with a plausible explanation for this. That's what NBC is doing."
Incidents like this are part of the reason we refer to the so-called "mainstream media" as the "Democrat-media complex."
One of the things that bugs me is that the police did not take Zimmerman's clothing into evidence, as far as I have heard.
Did you read the police report? or was that enhanced too.
The report mentions the injury, but does not give an acurate description of it, like if it was a 4 inch long gash to the back of head. Zimmerman refused medical treatment at the scene as far as I know. If he had been beaten as severly and as long as he said he was I would expect some more serious wounds on him. He appears to be very neat and clean in the police video. His shirt is tucked in and there is no visually obvious scuffs, scrapes, or rips in his clothing, nor does it look like there was any blood on him, either his own or Martin's. Usually the police would take pictures of any injuries they see to preserve this evidence. They also handle any suspects that have open wounds by wearing latex gloves. Bleeding suspects are a biohazard. I don't think they took any pictures( I could be wrong about this because they have not released what evidence they have in this case) and one can definitely see they aren't wearing any gloves when they bring him in.
I rarely hear the term "Brotha" anymore. They almost always use the term beginning with the letter "N" and ending in "gga".
They... as in Gansta Rappers ....Or they as in the young Black males you hang out with. Don't get me wrong when I am groving to some old school NWA and "singing" along (I can't rap) I am guilty as charged in saying the word niggaz... LOL
What do you guys think will happen when/if the grand jury chooses to do nothing to Zimmerman?. From what I have seen I think jthey are going to do diddly, just like the DA.
If they do Nothing then I think the Law will change... Then again "They" Finally got OJ and dat Biotch Casey Anthony is next.
Justice is like Karma...Once it catches up to you it's like finding out your wife used to be a man.
No but, both looking like a thug and dressing like a hooker will get you asked to leave my property. If behave weird near my property, you will be filmed and so will you vehicle.
But will it get me Shot, is all I want to know?
What would Jesus do? I think he would invite them in and have dinner.
They... as in Gansta Rappers ....Or they as in the young Black males you hang out with. Don't get me wrong when I am groving to some old school NWA and "singing" along (I can't rap) I am guilty as charged in saying the word niggaz... LOL
I rather use the word Bro or Mang. What up Bro?
"They" as in young black males that use the language of the skreet or Ebonics instead of English. They use the "N" word like most white people I know use the word "dude." Black and white seem to both use Bro or Mang equally.
What would Jesus do? I think he would invite them in and have dinner.
Even Jesus told his disciples to arm themselves when he knew the time was coming when he physically wouldn't be with them anymore. (This was before he entered the Garden at Gethsemane) They would need money and a sword to protect themselves as they went out into the world. Luke 22:36
Zimmerman refused medical treatment at the scene as far as I know.
Zimmerman is from Mars as far as you know. That's the problem - we've already seen the media has been "editing" the material they've been showing us and we're not seeing everything. None of us know ANYTHING about what actually happened. All we're getting is a lot of edited hearsay from the media. People believe what supports what they've already decided and ignore or explain away what doesn't.
The law states a person is innocent until proven guilty. It's not up to Zimmerman to prove his innocence. It's up to the State of Florida to prove his guilt. Everyone else needs to recognize you don't have all the facts and you're filling in the blanks with what you want to believe.
FYI, another "media report" mentioned Zimmerman asked for medical treatment when he was taken in for questioning. There's also a report that he was treated at the scene. So all of the options have been covered. Just pick the one that fits your chosen Narrative™.
"They" as in young black males that use the language of the skreet or Ebonics instead of English. They use the "N" word like most white people I know use the word "dude." Black and white seem to both use Bro or Mang equally.
I can't argue with you there as I SOME ethnic folk take the slang way over the top...No I'm sayin !
I have to go to the barber shop "in da hood" so I can get edjumacated on current events. Don't wana B labeled a busta.... Dis G gosta get his swag on. West Siide, Woop woop!
I really need to step away from the keyboard as I'm having way too much fun in a Tragedy thread.
It's not up to Zimmerman to prove his innocence. It's up to the State of Florida to prove his guilt. Everyone else needs to recognize you don't have all the facts and you're filling in the blanks with what you want to believe.
What parrallel universe do you live as this is NOT the America I live in.
Oh,I see this is IDEALY what is suppose to happen, NOT what really happens.
I'm going to address this ONE last time cause it just gets my Goat!
The New Black Panther Party are a bunch of Racist Buffoons, and they really need to STFU. Why does the media give these types of people a platform anyway? Sharpton, still acts like this is the 1960's, and is stuck in a time warp so most of his rhetoric does NOT apply to today’s landscape. Jesse is a Joke and I am ashamed of what he has become. It is 2012 and IMO, race relations in this country are the BEST they ever have been in the History of the USA. I hope these type of events open courteous dialog to help solve some of our countries issues and insecurities. Some stuff people just can't talk about on because it is a purely an emotional hot spot.
***rant on *** I half AZZ apologize if this rant is offensive BUT..... For ANYONE to lump ALL Black people, All Liberals, ALL Tea Party members, or ANY large diverse of group people in a class with their Lowest common denominator is illogical, insulting, and infuriating. It's beyond dim-witted and invalidates their whole Bass Ackwards argument. It's like moe of the 3 stooges trying to give a eye exam.
Judge me based on what I say and do and NOT what comes out another person’s mouth or has done on their own merit. I am my OWN man have my own opinions and speak for myself. If you disagree or don't like what I say or how I say it then let me know. I'm a nice guy and may apologize, if I have wronged you.
The T Martin case is a tragedy but from what I have peiced together from the so called NEWS, I THINK Martin was murdered and want Mr Z to stand trial for it. The media circus surrounding this case is and takes away from the REAL issue, IMO.
***Rant OFF***
You can use "Asshollery" anytime now.. I gave you permission in the other thread.
Edit: All Right! Post 750 of this turd!
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That image of the "injury" has been digitally enhanced. It basically is visible in only one frame of that footage and very hard to see at all in the rest.
For anyone that didn't notice, "Certain members" have been using fantasy to make Zimmerman the criminal here, making things up, and "assuming" things that probably never happened, and at the very least would be a stretch.
Those people are going to dismiss anything that doesn't fit their version of what happened. From here on out the people not calling for the death of Zimmerman are "conspiracy theorists" to people like them. (that would be gullible people.)
Above we see one such member fully dismissing actual photographic evidence because it's "enhanced", yet he's in the same group that was trying to pass off enhanced audio earlier to show it was Martin screaming. (Experts said it was Zimmerman, but that was ignored in favor of made up facts.)
Still waiting on that Address Madcurl, I'm sure you have been busy and just haven't had time or something.
I know. The stories we are getting from Zimmerman are that he was first pulled from his truck and attacked, then he was attacked by his truck, and finally he was attacked away from his truck behind the buildings. I guess he was covering all the bases.
I know. The stories we are getting from Zimmerman are that he was first pulled from his truck and attacked, then he was attacked by his truck, and finally he was attacked away from his truck behind the buildings. I guess he was covering all the bases.
Good spin there chief. We have never got a story from Zimmerman. You really don't bother to check facts do you?
There is one statement from Zimmerman, the Police (and likely DA) have it. He has not talked to the media, or anyone other than family and close friends since.
Still waiting on that address too Madcurl, any time you are ready.
Brad
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State Attorney Norm Wolfinger released a statement on Monday saying he is "outraged by the outright lies" contained in a letter written by the attorney of Trayvon Martin's parents, who are seeking a federal review in the case.
ORLANDO, Fla. - State Attorney Norm Wolfinger released a statement on Monday saying he is "outraged by the outright lies" contained in a letter written by the attorney of Trayvon Martin's parents, who are seeking a federal review in the case.
Martin family attorney Ben Crump said he is asking the U.S. Justice Department to review the investigation for possible interference by Wolfinger's office on the night Martin was shot to death by Neighborhood Watch leader George Zimmerman.
Crump sent a formal request to the Justice Department on Monday, saying, "within hours of the shooting in which Trayvon Martin was killed, Sanford Chief of Police Bill lee met with State Attorney Norm Wolfinger. We also believe that family members of shooter George Zimmerman were present at the police department. It was further revealed that State Attorney Norm Wolfinger and Chief Bill Lee overruled the recommendation of the lead homicide investigator, Chris Serino, who recommended that George Michale Zimemrman be arrested for manslaughter for killing Trayvon Benjamin Martin."
Wolfinger said he was "outraged by the outright lies contained in the letter..." and he, "encourages the Justice Department to investigate and document that no such meeting or communication occurred."
"I have been encouraging those spreading the irresponsible rhetoric to stop and allow State Attorney Angela Corey to complete her work," Wolfinger said. "Another falsehood distributed to the media does nothing to forward that process." In the letter, Crump also says that Serino filed an affidavit stating that he did not find Zimmerman's statements credible in light of the circumstances and facts surrounding the shooting.
"There's enough information to say that George Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense and that he should be arrested and brought to trial," said attorney Natalie Jackson, who also represents the Martin family. "If (Serino) recommended that George Zimmerman be arrested, what happened? Why isn't George Zimmerman arrested? That is what we're asking the Justice Department to investigate."
Jackson said the Martin family just wants answers on why they never knew about the meeting and why Zimmerman wasn't arrested.
"We're not saying that it wasn't an appropriate meeting we're saying investigate it and find out what happened," Jackson said.
Wolfinger stepped aside in the aftermath of Martin's death, and Gov. Rick Scott appointed a special investigator to decide if Zimmerman should be charged, cleared or if the case should be sent to the grand jury. The Justice Department launched an investigation into Martin's death on March 19.
Martin, 17, was fatally shot by Zimmerman, 28, after Zimmerman called police to report him as a "suspicious" person on the evening of Feb. 26.
Zimmerman says he killed Martin in self-defense after the teen punched him and slammed his head on the sidewalk, according to police. Enhanced video of Zimmerman at the police station released Monday appears to show a possible wound on Zimmerman's head.
Police cited Florida's "stand your ground" law, which allows people to use deadly force anywhere they feel a reasonable threat of death or serious injury, for not immediately arresting Zimmerman.
Martin's family and supporters say Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, racially profiled the teen, who was black, and ignored a police dispatcher's directive not to follow him.
The killing sparked nationwide protests, including a march Saturday by civil rights luminaries, carrying "Justice for Trayvon" signs in a marching to the Sanford police headquarters.
The Sanford Police Department has come under intense scrutiny for its actions following the shooting, and protesters renewed their call for the firing of Lee, who stepped aside temporarily last month amid criticism.
By Erik Wemple NBC apologizes to viewers, but not directly to this viewer. (AFP/GETTY IMAGES) NBC has completed its investigation into the mishandling of the police dispatcher’s conversation with George Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case. And the process ends with a finding of error, plus an apology. Here is the statement just issued by the network:
During our investigation it became evident that there was an error made in the production process that we deeply regret. We will be taking the necessary steps to prevent this from happening in the future and apologize to our viewers.
That apology addresses the “Today” show’s failure to abridge accurately the conversation between Zimmerman and the dispatcher in this high-profile case. This is how the program portrayed a segment of that conversation: Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.
And here is how it actually went down:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
No matter how you feel about Zimmerman, that bit of tape editing was unfair to the truth and to Zimmerman’s reputation, such as it is. Reaction on Twitter and elsewhere to my previous post on this matter, was brutal toward NBC, with many comments suggesting the worst about the network’s motivations, reliability and so on.
Does the statement adequately address those concerns? On the good front, it acknowledges the mistake and apologizes to viewers for the bad editing. It’s a forthright correction and spares us any excuses about the faulty portrayal. On the bad front, the statement is skimpy on the details on just how the mistake unfolded. Nor does it articulate an apology directly to George Zimmerman, the “viewer” who is most aggrieved by the screw-up. In light of all that’s happened, Zimmerman may be a tough person for a news network to apologize to, but that’s just the point: Apologies are hard.
You will notice that there isn't a "big" news story when the media starts taking back stories they made up, or skewed. The apologies from people calling for Zimmermans death will also be difficult to find.
What parrallel universe do you live as this is NOT the America I live in.
Oh,I see this is IDEALY what is suppose to happen, NOT what really happens.
Innocent until proven guilty... like Formula88 said... it's the responsibility of Florida prosecutors to find probable cause and charge him with a crime, and then prove it in court. That's how it always is. Even WITH the "innocent until proven guilty"... we sometimes send people to the electric chair who were actually innocent. Imagine if it was guilty until proven innocent, how many more people would be unjustly imprisoned.
Trayvon is dead, but that doesn't change how our system of government or laws work. You may not like it... but that's what's kept us solid for 270+ years...
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Originally posted by twofatguys:
Good spin there chief. We have never got a story from Zimmerman. You really don't bother to check facts do you?
There is one statement from Zimmerman, the Police (and likely DA) have it. He has not talked to the media, or anyone other than family and close friends since.
Still waiting on that address too Madcurl, any time you are ready.
Brad
It is interesting to see you two at opposite ends of the spectrum though... heheh... normally you two agree on most things (same with me and the two of you).
At least we CAN argue about this stuff though... even England has bull-**** laws that prevents the media from discussing things before an official ruling has taken place. At least we're not like Australia, that will strip out all the pictures of fat people in fear that people might want to become fat or think it's normal... hahaha. America is still awesome, even when we don't always get along.
(I've been drinking a little bit... sorry) Todd
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It is interesting to see you two at opposite ends of the spectrum though... heheh... normally you two agree on most things (same with me and the two of you).
At least we CAN argue about this stuff though... even England has bull-**** laws that prevents the media from discussing things before an official ruling has taken place. At least we're not like Australia, that will strip out all the pictures of fat people in fear that people might want to become fat or think it's normal... hahaha. America is still awesome, even when we don't always get along.
(I've been drinking a little bit... sorry) Todd
Yea, I've always agreed with him when he was right. Brad
"not that there is anything wrong with that."
and takes away from the REAL issue, IMO.
You really don't bother to check facts do you? 
