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. oops Archie beat me to it

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Man, I need to hit the lottery.

Can't wait to see how this beast turns out, though!
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Troy, you planning on running a few laps at the race track at the 25th?
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Originally posted by TiredGXP:

LS7 N/A. I want to see how you fit that in

What kind of transmission are you planning to use that can deal with all that torque? The LS7 puts out about twice the torque that the G6 F40 transmission was designed to handle.

Cheers


On the LS7 we would retain the dry sump system. Other than getting a custom dry Sump tank made, the LS7 mounting should be about the same as an LS2.

We have a set of shafts & gears already Cryo treated for this car.

This car has 12" wide rear tires on it. If you put slicks on it & take it to the strip, rev it up to 6K & dump the clutch several times, you might be able to break it. We already have another 6 speed car that's going to be testing the strength of the transmissions this Spring. As we learn stuff from that car, it will be addressed in this car. I've driven this car. This is a street car & with the 12" wide street tires on it, it has smoked the rear tires very easily with the engine that has been in it. So we should be ok. For the kind of money that's in this car, if we wanted a drag car, we'd have bought a Camaro & we'd have money left to have a spare Fiero on the side too.

This LS3 vs LS7 survey is about us having a little fun as Troy decides.

I don't expect it to turn into the yadda yadda transmission discussion at this time.

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Originally posted by AutoTech:

Troy, you planning on running a few laps at the race track at the 25th?


If it's ready anything is possible
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Cant wait ! Hope you can make it

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Originally posted by Archie:

On the LS7 we would retain the dry sump system. Other than getting a custom dry Sump tank made, the LS7 mounting should be about the same as an LS2.

We have a set of shafts & gears already Cryo treated for this car.


Yah, I think I remember a post about that a couple of pages back....

 
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I've driven this car. This is a street car & with the 12" wide street tires on it, it has smoked the rear tires very easily with the engine that has been in it. So we should be ok.


Vids! Vids!

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Originally posted by Archie:

This LS3 vs LS7 survey is about us having a little fun as Troy decides.



It's Archies way of taking my mind off of my exploratory Heart surgery on Thursday. And no Curly I'm not changing my will....

I'm leaning towards an upgraded LS7 Archie. Call mark from S&P for the numbers at different levels of HP Archie.
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Heart surgery???
I hope all goes well.....I'll send a prayer out for ya', if that's okay??

By the way, the car is lookin great!!! Can't wait to see the complete nose job on this thing!!

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Originally posted by SAFASTRO:

Heart surgery???
I hope all goes well.....I'll send a prayer out for ya', if that's okay??

By the way, the car is lookin great!!! Can't wait to see the complete nose job on this thing!!



Thanks, just the Doc looking out for me, and as always all prayers are welcome.




It's not done but you get the idea. One more nose mod and then it's done, hopefuly by the end of the week.
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This thing has long since ceased to be just a car,..it is officially a work of art.

I see now where u were going Troy.





Excellent Choice.

My prayers are with you as you go into surgery, but no worries as God always takes care of the good guys.

Best wishes.

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Do the LS7. Later when you get bored put the SC on top or go to the LS9
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It kind of looks like a 911's front. Very good!

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Looks darn good and modernise the front end. Bolt and apply days are over. Never add anthing thing to your cars w/o first tweaking it!

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WOW! Now that looks awesome.
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Wow, this car has better lines then any other super car out there. I like this car better then any lamborghini. Great work!!
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Originally posted by TiredGXP:

What kind of transmission are you planning to use that can deal with all that torque?



Actually i was thinking that he might need NASA make the axles ....

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Actually i was thinking that he might need NASA make the axles ....


That's funny. I was just curious, wondering if there was something else out that I hadn't seen used on other swaps.

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It kind of looks like a 911's front. Very good!

JG

http://dasti.wz.cz/gallery/...ompleteEvolution.jpg
That's what I was thinking when I first saw the pictures. Very Porsche-ish. Very nice look!

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nose job almost done


Now Time for a LS7 transplant
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WOW......I love that front bumper mod!!
This is turning out to be one of the best modded Fieros yet, eh Curly??? hahaha
You guys continue to amaze me.......I can't wait to get going on my project. I just need to get rid of my S10 taking up the Fiero's space in my garage!!
Keep inspiring!!!!

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Originally posted by Archie:
That's actually the reason we're undecided right now. Magnason doesn't have a MagnaCharger for the LS7 on the market yet.
It'll be about 6 weeks before it's supposed to come out & we aren't the 1st one in line for one.
Archie


FYI The LS9 (supercharged) engine its based on the LS3 instead of the LS7 because of strength concerns:

The new LS9 exceeds the LS7 in every area except one, displacement. The main reason for the drop in displacement was strength. GM's plan for the LS9 included a supercharger and they felt the 427 cubic-inch block wasn't strong enough to reliably hold up to the intended boost. Instead, a beefed up 6.2-liter LS3 block will be used. Starting in '09, all 6.2L blocks, including truck blocks, will feature this 20 percent increase in bulkhead strength. According to Tom Reed, of GM, "All the blocks benefited in '08 with a 20 percent increase because of the LS3 improvements. Therefore, since 2007 the bulkhead area strength has increased 40 percent.

http://www.popularhotroddin...arged_ls9/index.html


So it all comes down to what is that you want, if you want a boosted engine, I will follow GM's steps and I wouldn't go with a supercharged LS7, I would go with the LS3, and if you want a NA engine I would go with the LS7.


Have Fun !!!
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I'm going with the Ls7 with a few improvements to take it upto 579 hp with emissions without a Super charger for now. IF you want to you can boost a LS7 safely but only with modest boost. Keep inmind that on a Ls7 modest boost is into the 600 hp range.

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OK Archie I'm going in, feel free to post pics of the nose job while I'm in the hospital.
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OK Archie I'm going in, feel free to post pics of the nose job while I'm in the hospital.
Archie pm sent


Good luck, let us know how it goes.

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I just got the phone with Troy and he's at home and doing okay.
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I just got the phone with Troy and he's at home and doing okay.

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I just got the phone with Troy and he's at home and doing okay.


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I love the badges, especially the detail and IMSA logo.

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Hey, fix all those imperfections in the fiberglass.
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Great work Archie and crew, you created this new front-end just from a pic that I sent to you guys. I hope this will be the last change to this nose, I'm looking to keep it a one off, hint, hint . Call me before you mount the fog lights I'm still looking into other options.

Fog light placement Ideas and photoshops welcome.
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Glad to see that you're up and posting again, Troy!

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Glad to see that you're up and posting again, Troy!

Thanks Doc John, short funny story : The Doctor at the hospital told me that he was going to have the nurse shave the "boys" for the angiogram, keep in mind that the nurse in am was fine so I was in a good mood . but when the time came I had to chase the "MALE" nurse and settle for nurse Helga SHE was friendly but .

Back on topic what do you guys think about changing the driving light to this

hella_micro_de_xenon_light_kit
they are smaller and more powerful than the PIAA's

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Hey, fix all those imperfections in the fiberglass.


Not to worry, this is just fiberglass, the paint guy will take care of it.

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Back on topic what do you guys think about changing the driving light to this

hella_micro_de_xenon_light_kit
they are smaller and more powerful than the PIAA's


No, (haha) the lights we have fit perfectly in the new openings.

The top of the current lights fits the opening perfectly.

The bottom of the current lights fits the opening perfectly.

The outboard end of the current lights fits the opening perfectly.

Archie

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Like Barry White said, "Tweakness is my weakness," hehe. Geezs, Troy just think; you're car was "done" at Fierorama...not!
Double mouth; That double mouth wasn't gonna "fly."


After the the Dells:


And now before the 25th: aside from the fog lamp placement, Stick a fork in it Troy, it's done!

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Fog light placement Ideas and photoshops welcome.


Last night I had a few ideas.

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bump for LS7 update.
Archie, Lisa wants a new wing added onto the house this spring, You better order that LS7 before we break ground .

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