I think it is actually touch it and has rubbed some of the paint off the under side of the deck lid due to engine movement. I think if I was to grind the weld down on one spot it would not be touching. It's only touching on the end with the map sensor.
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12:14 PM
Apr 19th, 2006
Francis T Member
Posts: 6620 From: spotsylvania va. usa Registered: Oct 2003
Exhaust Headers: We are still waiting for our header flanges to get here so we probably wont have our headers/Y-pipe sets ready for Carlisles. But we are fully commited to making them and they will be awesume.
Intakes: We now have an even brighter finesh for our near-chrome intakes
Side Note: I will soon put up for sale the last of our long runner intakes as we are staying with the shart units. There's just not enough of a dif proformance-wise between the two and most folks only want the shorts anyway. That last unit has the new style neck (only 2 seams) and no velocity stacks as it was an early unit but will still out proform even a modified stock intake by a wide margin. It will be sold well below our normal price. I'll list that pice when I put the picture up and I'll hold of a few days before coating it in case someone wants a particular color. Afterwhich, we'll do it in near-chrome.
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Francis T Member
Posts: 6620 From: spotsylvania va. usa Registered: Oct 2003
Exhaust Headers: We are still waiting for our header flanges to get here so we probably wont have our headers/Y-pipe sets ready for Carlisles. But we are fully commited to making them and they will be awesume.
Intakes: We now have an even brighter finesh for our near-chrome intakes
Side Note: I will soon put up for sale the last of our long runner intakes as we are staying with the shart units. There's just not enough of a dif proformance-wise between the two and most folks only want the shorts anyway. That last unit has the new style neck (only 2 seams) and no velocity stacks as it was an early unit but will still out proform even a modified stock intake by a wide margin. It will be sold well below our normal price. I'll list that pice when I put the picture up and I'll hold of a few days before coating it in case someone wants a particular color. Afterwhich, we'll do it in near-chrome.
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10:39 AM
lou_dias Member
Posts: 5258 From: Warwick, RI Registered: Jun 2000
It will have the left and right header and a custom Y pipe, we may look into the down pipe too. BTW: We plan to locate the header collectors back enough to make a much smoother junction and get rid of those tite turns, thus they will be sold onlt with oue Y pipe as part of the cost as the stock one wont work..
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03:28 PM
lou_dias Member
Posts: 5258 From: Warwick, RI Registered: Jun 2000
Opsss the down pipe is part of the Y pipe, for a moment i thought you were talking about the rest of the exhaust system under the car. That we may look into but more likely won't. The problem with Fiero exhaust is with what's on top and not whats under the car.
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04:16 PM
88 Formula Member
Posts: 608 From: Baden, PA USA Registered: Aug 2003
Our Y pipe will follow the same path as the stock one and like our intakes we'll probably make the EGR takeoff something that can be omitted for those that dont want it. Cant give ya price yet, but our goal is to be aprciably lower than whats out there now. We'll likely offer a nice package deal too for those that also want to buy an intake. It will be one heck of 'bolt-on" upgrade proformance-wise.
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lou_dias Member
Posts: 5258 From: Warwick, RI Registered: Jun 2000
as the owner of a trueleo intake, and a 3.4L pushrod engine in my fiero, i made a custom y-pipe for my fiero using a 2.5" diameter downpipe, i have to say, its a very large downpipe and it takes up too much room, if frank were to make a custom y-pipe with a downpipe, id suggest using 1.5-1.75" pipe for the collector pipes, then Y them together into a 2.25" downpipe, the 2.5" would be too large for most applications, and may interfere with the coolent pipe or shift cables.
stock is 2 1.25" pipes sandwiched together into a 1.87" or so downpipe at the Y part of the y-pipe collector, it crams the sizes down to nearly .80" which is tiny,
the perfect y-pipe in my opinion would be 1.5" pipes flowing into a Y with a 2.25" downpipe
stock crossover pipe for the 3.4dohc is 2.25" , seeing as they are 205-215 hp stock - i wouldn't go any less than 2" for the cross over tubing for a performance 2.8
[This message has been edited by Kohburn (edited 04-20-2006).]
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02:19 PM
lou_dias Member
Posts: 5258 From: Warwick, RI Registered: Jun 2000
We updated our website and it shows the new smoother inlet neeks with less welds. Just want to say, we are placing the vacuum take-offs on the rear of the plenium for a cleaner look instead of on the neck. And we're still wainting to recieve the flanges for exhuast headers/Y pipe units.
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12:17 PM
Jul 3rd, 2006
Francis T Member
Posts: 6620 From: spotsylvania va. usa Registered: Oct 2003
Been getting more inquires so here's an update on the headers/Y pipe : We're making good progress hav e a set on our test engine and will should be confirming in-car fit soon. Once that's done, we'll make all the jigs for production and start to ship them out. BTW they look impresive and should work great. Pricing plus specs soon and you'll like both.
I'm really curious about the 'Y' Pipe and if it will be a "Bolt-On" application. Also and espically interested about the flow rate of the "New" vs. the "Old"........
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05:16 PM
Jul 4th, 2006
The Funkmaster Member
Posts: 1541 From: Chilliwack, B.C., Canada Registered: Oct 2004
Sorry guys and we want to show you all pics reqal bad too, we just dont want to show one thing only to have to make a few mods and deliever yet another thing. We are very very close. Been trying to get them on the 87 GT for a final test fit and get my car done and out of the way, but this heat is just doing a number on me. I just came in to cool off again with only one bolt left to get out so I can get my car done. I can promise you wont be disapointed by the design or price.
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05:36 PM
Aug 10th, 2006
Francis T Member
Posts: 6620 From: spotsylvania va. usa Registered: Oct 2003
Exhaust Headers / Y pipe update: Yes we have been working on the headers. I test fitted them on my 87GT 5 spd and found a few items to address such as one pipe being a little too close a couple of spark boots and some other issues. Nothing really difficult to fix, just need to change a few jigs some and update the headers I made etc. I hope to get it all spot-on soon and post some pictures etc.
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Aug 11th, 2006
kwagner Member
Posts: 4257 From: Pittsburgh, PA Registered: Apr 2005
I also discovered that our cars use at least two different types of Y pipes! One Y pipe that i have has a simple strait pipe below the flange that fits into the exhaust. My 86 4spd is like that. And when I pulled the Y pipe off my 87 5spd, thats has a rounded flange on the down pipe section (simular to ones for the headers) that fits into the exhaust system? I'll have to take a look, but maybe that rounded part just slips over the strait pipe and only looks like it's one piece because of rust? Anyone have any more info on the down section of the Y pipes? If need be, I guess we'll have to offer both types.
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04:30 PM
Raydar Member
Posts: 40731 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
Indeed, and thanks Raydar. I went and took a good at it and was able to remove it without much effort and then put it on our Y pipe. It just had so much rust from the pipe on it it looked like it was welded to it. I dont kown if I'll be able reuse the O2 senore, that looks really rusted bad, but sse if can it off. I'm trying to do the install the same as you guys will so I can document any special directions that may make the install easier.
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10:18 PM
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Raydar Member
Posts: 40731 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
That's what I was thinking and will get a new O2 sensore. I'm also going to weld in a second fitting on the down pipe so I dont have to mickey-mouse it when whenever we put the wideband on the car. We can that for customers, just let us know. I have a fitting like that on my turbo 86GT and a quick connect from the MAP sensore. Makes testing and tunning (for burns) new mods a lot easier.
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10:28 AM
Francis T Member
Posts: 6620 From: spotsylvania va. usa Registered: Oct 2003
OK, I got the front header on and it dont need any mods. Only thing I saw was that the clutch cable should be tie wraped to keep it a little frather away from the down pipe and a couple wires well need the tei wraped t stay away from the pipes. Nothing that wont take but a min or two to do. Not sure yet if we need to offer two Y pipes, 4 spd & 5 spd? There seems to be a slight dif between the two. You cant tell by looking at them next to each, but if you put them in gij you can. All and all, it's coming along good. And I'm doing the test fitting wiht the engine in the car and without losening the motor mounts and pulling the engine to rear of the car as some do to get more room.
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09:44 PM
Aug 13th, 2006
lou_dias Member
Posts: 5258 From: Warwick, RI Registered: Jun 2000
I'll probably Jet Hott mine when I get them. The Fiero Store Sprints I had were coated and I had NO problem with heat in the engine compartment compared to the stock shielded ones.
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01:59 AM
Aug 15th, 2006
Francis T Member
Posts: 6620 From: spotsylvania va. usa Registered: Oct 2003
Sorry for the delay people, I decided to make some major changes to some of the jigs (and they are complicated) to insure consisant fit. Got that done today and will test fit on the car again in the morning. If it all goes well, should have some pics etc in a few days. Oh and those of you that have been waiting and sending us e-mails, I'd like to know how many of you are planning to use a non-stock exhaust system. Thanks Francis
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08:01 PM
rjblaze Member
Posts: 1159 From: Bethlehem, Pa., United States Registered: May 2006
Count me in for information when your headers are done....if they are anything like your intake they should be awesome!!!! I am planning to use the Ocelot down pipe and exhaust system from the Fiero Store....my system is all JetHot coated inside and out (including the muffler) and should work well with your set-up.
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10:41 PM
Aug 16th, 2006
Francis T Member
Posts: 6620 From: spotsylvania va. usa Registered: Oct 2003
Ok I have them back on the car and they fit and clear almost everything. I had to change the shape of #1 pipe as it was too close to the plugs and the vent tube for the coil fan. But looks good now. Buyers will have to rerout a few wires and such to get them away from the pipes. Compared to stock, there 's lot more piping with headers, which is useualy the case with any headers and other cars. And the coffee can air resouver needs to be mounted vertical, easy to do. I just have to take them off the car again, weld them all up (mostly just tachs now) and take pictures. Oh, and did I say they look awesume!
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01:59 PM
Fierofreak00 Member
Posts: 4221 From: Martville, NY USA Registered: Jun 2001
Ok I have them back on the car and they fit and clear almost everything. I had to change the shape of #1 pipe as it was too close to the plugs and the vent tube for the coil fan. But looks good now. Buyers will have to rerout a few wires and such to get them away from the pipes. Compared to stock, there 's lot more piping with headers, which is useualy the case with any headers and other cars. And the coffee can air resouver needs to be mounted vertical, easy to do. I just have to take them off the car again, weld them all up (mostly just tachs now) and take pictures. Oh, and did I say they look awesume!
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06:45 PM
Quickster Member
Posts: 828 From: Bakersfield, California >USA< Registered: Jan 2002
