kinda of like this?

Here are the headlight covers i mentioned earlier but frgot to post the picture.





Some more sanding & filling & the lights are looking good.





Also working in the trunk area setting up the decklid latch & working on the sheet metal. More pics on this later.







Working our way down the sides of the car we are now working on getting the wheel well openings to match up side to side & to match up with the rocker panels.







Archie

quote Originally posted by Archie: Here are the headlight covers i mentioned earlier but frgot to post the picture. Some more sanding & filling & the lights are looking good. Also working in the trunk area setting up the decklid latch & working on the sheet metal. More pics on this later. Working our way down the sides of the car we are now working on getting the wheel well openings to match up side to side & to match up with the rocker panels. Archie

it looked perfect along time ago yet you keep making it better ..thanks

Here's some better pics of the decklid work.







We've been working on the bodywork, front to back.....

Straightening out the hood....











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Wow! THIS is the engine that should go into the Miura project.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/100795.html

A true transverse V-12.

yes I know, I'm dreaming , but it's a nice thought, ain't it?

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Transplanting a V12 transversly into the Fiero is an impressive feat of creativity and engineering and I applaud his ability to do so. Unfortunately , from what I have seen regarding the tight clearances that already exist for this Miura fiberglass body over the Fiero chassis , I doubt the body could accomodate an additional 2 inches of chassis width and keep the tires inside the wheel wells . In addition , as others have commented , the LS3 provides a higher power to weight ratio than the BMW V12 and certainly benefits from availability of affortable aftermarket performance parts . Neverthelesss , I agree that a transverse V12 in a Fiero should be awarded very high marks for style points and engineering talent. Hope to see more of this amazing project on his thread.

Archie,
I agree with the ideas of the two posts above, concerning the possible V12 in your Muira. If not the BMW variety, perhaps the V12 out of a Jaguar? I do not know if this engine, or one of a different manufacturer, is of a smaller dimension. However, I was just wetting everybodies appetite on the idea we can all agree on. Can you at least consider it?

Cordially,
Kevin

quote Originally posted by kevin: Archie, I agree with the ideas of the two posts above, concerning the possible V12 in your Muira. If not the BMW variety, perhaps the V12 out of a Jaguar? I do not know if this engine, or one of a different manufacturer, is of a smaller dimension. However, I was just wetting everybodies appetite on the idea we can all agree on. Can you at least consider it? Cordially, Kevin

I admire people who go outside the box to do something that hasn't been done before, or at least hasn't been done very often. After all, I was there 20 some years ago when I started putting SBC's into the Fiero. Several years ago, I did the same thing with the 6 speed swaps & the LSx swaps.

There is a big difference between building any First Time Swap on your own car, when you get a working knowledge of every inch of the car & can prove out that swap AND Building the same First Time Swap for a customer who expects to take home a package proven thru the years.

I've measured the length & width of a V-12 Jag. engine & it won't even come close to fitting inside the frame rails.

While I enjoy reading about that BMW V-12 built, it's not a commercially viable alternative as yet. In fact as related to that type of installation into a customers' car it is 100% unproven. The development costs of making that V-12 a proven swap to put into a customers' car & work out all the issues that would come up would be much more than the engine that he has already chosen. Also, I don't know what a new BMW V-12 engine would cost but this customer doesn't want a used engine in his car.

I could go on but that should answer your qusetion.

Archie

Bringing this up to date again.....

With the center body section off of the chassis, Kris set it up between 2 benches to do the bodywork to the rocker panels...









Then getting ready to glass the body back onto the chassis, we mount it onto the chassis for the last time...



And check the gaps to make sure it's positioned in the correct place.







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gonna make molds?

quote Originally posted by Gokart Mozart: gonna make molds?

Nope

quote Originally posted by Archie: ........

Pardon me, but what are the two opening for?

quote Originally posted by madcurl: Pardon me, but what are the two opening for?

Looks like speakers, pretty cool.

On the real car they have vents in those locations.

We put little speakers in that location to replicate the vents.

Archie

any updates?

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That looks like the idé I had for my car with the backseat armrest table from a Saab 9-5
With 2 cupholders coming out the front


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update please

I just read through the whole thread for the first time and I must say that I'm astonished. It's just a thing of beauty to see this project coming together. Congrats, Archie!

updates we need updates PLEASE

Hi A,

What vehicle did you get the armrest? Is is the same width as the Fiero armrest?

Hi,
I'm Benoit from France, I follow your post, congratulation for your great work. I think your Miura body kit is derived from a Prova Design Miura kit because it has the same trouble with the windshield installation, it’s strange because Prova Design has molded an original Lamborghini Miura P400 S to make its molds in the 80’s
You may install taillights from a Fiat 850 Spider, they are identical on the Lamborghini Miura P400 & P400 S. These taillights are remanufactured : http://mrfiat.com/

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We've ben working on a lot of stuff since I posted last.

I'll try to bringit up to date.

In Phase I of getting the upholstery done, a few days after my last post we packed up several of the interior parts to send them out for covering.

As you've seen a lot of these parts were fabricated from scratch. So a photo record & careful handling was in order......



















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continuing......

Then we had to figure out how to get power roll up windows in the doors.

We had to figure out the geometry & hardware to make the windows in the doors roll up & down evenly, securely & reliably.

We needed the window to roll up along a line up the back inside edge of the door. The vertical height of the window opening is only about 2" lower than the vertical height of the body of the door. So we had to come up with window mounting & operating hardware that used as little vertical space as possible.

We decided to use Fiero power window hardware because we were going to have to heavily modify any "Kit" we might have bought & we had plenty of the Fiero parts so we could scrap a few sets of them without any big loss.

Here are a few pics of the mock-up. Locations & angles of the rails that the scissor arms ride in were very important to get the windows to ride up evenly & correctly. All this took time & experimentation. We moved them around quite a bit while we figured out how each changed affected the window movement.





Once we had figures out the details, we glassed in 2 mounting bars inside the door.





then we were able to bolt in the final mounting plates to the bars & make it all operational.















Archie

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Wow! What a build. I like the trunks space and trunk hinges.

Me Too! I LOVE THIS BUILD!!!!

Hi Archie, what car did you get the glovebox from? Are the dimensions similar to the original Fiero?

quote Originally posted by madcurl: Wow! What a build. I like the trunks space and trunk hinges.

The hinges are from the rear hatch on an old XKE Jag. Coupe.

quote Originally posted by Sofa King: Me Too! I LOVE THIS BUILD!!!! Hi Archie, what car did you get the glovebox from? Are the dimensions similar to the original Fiero?

It's wider that the Fiero console is.

It's from the back seat of a new VW, I can't remember exactly which one.

The customer bought it & sent it to me.

It is identified in one of the earlier posts in this thread.

Archie

Archie you and your staff ,never cease to amaze by outdoing your last creation and you are up there with the best of builders,more props to you for the inspiration you have given us thru the years .

As you can see, I've got a lot to catch up on.

In this view the headrests will mount into the half-round tube just under the rear window opening. The sanding block in the rear window represents the rear window glass. So we'll need headrests that have the mounting posts as far back as we can get.....



The customer bought some new headrests on EBay & had them sent to me.



The color doesn't match perfectly, so we know they'll have to be re-upholstered. We will be reshaping them before we send them out for covering.



Getting an idea if they can be fitted....





They'll have to be cut down a bit, but they'll work. We'll do that later when we fab. & fit the rest of the interior parts



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Building inner wheel well liners for the rear clip.

These are built of flat Fiberglass sheet. Then the sheets are trimmed & fitted to the position we need them in. After that they are fiberglassed in place & a layer or 2 are glassed onto the fiberglass sheeting to make them stiffer.











Then it's time to do some bodywork on the rear clip.....

















Archie

Simply beautiful Archie and a Please keep it coming...

Cordially,
Kevin

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quote Originally posted by kevin: Simply beautiful Archie and a Please keep it coming... Cordially, Kevin

Thanks, Kris & Rob are the guys making this happen.

Archie