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Carbon dioxide hysteria by olejoedad
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Who is poisoning who?
Could be all of those planes you see flying around burning fuel with lead in them.
They haven't put lead in automotive fuels for decades.
So you want to cut back on pollution perhaps there are other places besides the few hotrods that are on the road.
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Uh, you probably already knew this, but jet fuel is basically highly refined kerosene......
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SMALL PROP PLANES USE GAS
BUT WITH VERY REDUCED LEAD AV-GAS LEADED GAS CALL LOW LEAD

ABOUT 200K AIRCRAFT TOTAL IN THE USA USE LEADED GAS
JETS DO NOT USE ANY LEAD
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Uh, you probably already knew this, but jet fuel is basically highly refined kerosene......


There is an airport not far from us, its not a large airport like LA but it is pretty busy.
The amount of prop driven planes I see almost every day is crazy, unless something has changed they use leaded fuel still.
We wont talk about the jets that have to dump fuel to land. LOL some of them even dump on school play grounds.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01...hool-trnd/index.html

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Back by popular demand, for an encore performance...

SCIENCE
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Do you know what a tape measure is ?

What is the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere ?
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Originally posted by cliffw:
Do you know what a tape measure is?
Yes, but I don't see the relevance.

 
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Originally posted by cliffw:
What is the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere?
That's information that's updated regularly and made freely available online for people like cliffw.

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coral reefs are dead

summer record high temps killed the coral in the keys

bleached white = dead

good work rumpers
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Originally posted by cliffw:
Do you know what a tape measure is?


 
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Yes, but I don't see the relevance.


I suspected as much.

 
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Originally posted by cliffw:
What is the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere?


 
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
That's information that's updated regularly and made freely available online for people like cliffw.


I suspected you did not know. I do.
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https://climate.nasa.gov/in.../2679/CO2_graph.jpeg

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I've never read a study on the reduction in ice core CO2 degradation over time.

Comparing historical ice core data to current atmosperic CO2 concentrations seems like comparing apples to oranges.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

I've never read a study on the reduction in ice core CO2 degradation over time.

Comparing historical ice core data to current atmosperic CO2 concentrations seems like comparing apples to oranges.


hand waving will not change the data

nor will the reefs be reborn

they are dead jim
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Originally posted by ray b:


hand waving will not change the data

nor will the reefs be reborn

they are dead jim


Not allowed to question data. ✓
( I suppose the college education in Geology doesn't give me any insight to scientific data analysis or the ability to think critically?

Dead reefs ✓
(Not to mention that they have died before, that's the foundation for the new reefs)
My interest in Oceanography uncovered that information, and was the reason I was trained in Geology, Chemistry, and Biology.

The reefs will come back, this is not a new thing.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

I've never read a study on the reduction in ice core CO2 [degradation] over time.

Comparing historical ice core data to current [atmospheric] CO2 concentrations seems like comparing apples to oranges.

I've never encountered this idea before, as I have followed the "climate story" via news reports or the occasional film documentary for a non-specialist audience.

It seems like a no-brainer that the air that is recovered from the small air bubbles in ice cores is representative of the atmosphere as it was during various times over the last million or so years, and that these timelines can be reconstructed by the methods that geologists have agreed upon to date the ice core samples.

These air bubbles were Mother Nature's way of archiving valuable climate research data for us, even before the first modern humans emerged from our earlier evolutionary ancestors.

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Not allowed to question data. ✓
( I suppose the college education in Geology doesn't give me any insight to scientific data analysis or the ability to think critically?

Dead reefs ✓
(Not to mention that they have died before, that's the foundation for the new reefs)
My interest in Oceanography uncovered that information, and was the reason I was trained in Geology, Chemistry, and Biology.

reefs will come back, this is not a new thing.


trapped bubbles air has the normal amounts of the big stuff O2 N2 standard % of trace elements Ne H2
why try to weasel on the CO2 numbers why would ONLY they change

btw you know they check more then one age depth location and never single bubble results but only publish avg vented results
unlike the oil CORPrat SHILLS WHO LIE FOR PAY

btw WWF said NO
''Coral bleaching matters because once these corals die,
reefs rarely come back.
With few corals surviving, they struggle to reproduce,
and entire reef ecosystems, on which people and wildlife depend,
deteriorate.
Bleaching also matters because it's not an isolated phenomenon.''

and it is world wide remember it is GLOBAL WARMING

Another mass bleaching event is devastating the Great Barrier Reef

Coral recovery during a prolonged heatwave offers new hope
University of Washington
https://www.washington.edu › news › 2020/12/18 › c...
Dec 18, 2020 — Prolonged bleaching events often cause corals to die from starvation, but they can recover if they reclaim their food source within a few weeks.

IF PERFECT CONDITIONS CORAL MAY SOMETIMES RECOVER OVER MANY YEARS
NO ALL CORAL OR ALL THE TIME MOST DIES
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What is the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere ?


 
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https://climate.nasa.gov/in.../2679/CO2_graph.jpeg


ray b, ... there are lies, damn lies, statistics, and graphs.

I remember when they put modern instrumental measurement data collectors at locations which exaggerated the "data".

Do you remember, ..., , the UN Global Warming email expose ?

The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is ... less than 1/2 a percent of the total atmosphere's composition.
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olejoedad, heh, we have rubes who do not believe in creationism, or evolution. They fear death.
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The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is ... less than 1/2 a percent of the total atmosphere's composition.

And..?

Many observations are accurate, but have no relevance to the topic that's being discussed.

Forum member cliffw is trying to replace science with "common sense."

I guess he thinks the earth is flat and that if he could get into a boat and traverse the ocean far enough, he'd eventually reach the edge.

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

And..?

Many observations are accurate, but have no relevance to the topic that's being discussed.

Forum member cliffw is trying to replace science with "common sense."

I guess he thinks the earth is flat and that if he could get into a boat and traverse the ocean far enough, he'd eventually reach the edge.



I think you have already found the edge, and have fallen off of it.

(Not talking about the earth.....)
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ray b, ... there are lies, damn lies, statistics, and graphs.

I remember when they put modern instrumental measurement data collectors at locations which exaggerated the "data".

Do you remember, ..., , the UN Global Warming email expose ?

The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is ... less than 1/2 a percent of the total atmosphere's composition.


AND PEOPLE OFF BY A POWER OF 10
at simple math

CO2 IS 400 PPM

1/2 OF 1% IS = T0 5000 PPM

SHOULD NEVER PRETEND TO UNDERSTAND SCIENCE

the percent is not important %00.04
the effect is IMPORTANT
CO2 IS FAR MORE POWERFUL THEN YOU THINK IT IS

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Wichita +10 but you need to make you post in the right thread other wise Patrick might get upset.

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Originally posted by ray b:


AND PEOPLE OFF BY A POWER OF 10
at simple math

CO2 IS 400 PPM

1/2 OF 1% IS = T0 5000 PPM

SHOULD NEVER PRETEND TO UNDERSTAND SCIENCE

the percent is not important %00.04
the effect is IMPORTANT
CO2 IS FAR MORE POWERFUL THEN YOU THINK IT IS



The MSM and wealth redistribution cartel is more powerful than you think.

At what point is the CO2 level so low that plants die?

I know the answer, do you?
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

The MSM and wealth redistribution cartel is more powerful than you think.

At what point is the CO2 level so low that plants die? I know the answer, do you?

He's worried about not enough atmospheric carbon dioxide?

That's too funny. It immediately put me in mind of a scene from "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid."

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


The MSM and wealth redistribution cartel is more powerful than you think.

At what point is the CO2 level so low that plants die?

I know the answer, do you?


you are WHAT ABOUTING

DEAD CORAL this summer

NOT PLANTS
coral are animals
I am an animal
wealth retention by the bro's K
who's nut dad funded & founded the JOHN BIRCH NUTS
IS THE POINT OF PAID LYING ABOUT CO2 AND WARMING
BY SHILLS FOR THE BRO'S K
IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE A PUPPET
AT LEAST LEARN WHO HOLDS THE STRINGS
AND WHY THEY JERK YOU
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Ok, so you don't know the minimum level that CO2 can be in the atmosphere before plants suffocate.

You could have it at said so instead of deflecting.

What happens when all of the plants die, genius?
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Wichita +10


Are you telling us his IQ? I question it's that high.

 
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...but you need to make you post in the right thread other wise Patrick might get upset.


You think Wichita's posts "upset " me? On the contrary, I feel embarrassed for him... and for anyone who thinks they're the least bit witty.
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Challenging 97% consensus with scientific debate.

This is a test of political compliance, ' Do you agree with what the msm is lying to you about ? '
Nod your head if you feel threatened by Russian collusion, disinformation, and looming global nuclear war.

' The ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis.
Cut the population by 90% and there aren't enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage. '
~ Mikhail Gorbachev

' There is a joy in madness, that only mad men know. '
~ Nieztsche

' Just because you are paranoid, it doesn't mean they are not out to get you. '

' Now it all makes sense. '
' Yeah ! Wow ! I never knew that was their ultimate plan for World Domination ! '


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From the University of Manitoba......


https://www.gov.mb.ca/agric...s%20is%20restricted.


An interesting paper on the effects of atmospheric CO2 on photosynthesis and CO2 supplimentation in agriculture.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:
From the University of Manitoba......
https://www.go...0restricted.

An interesting paper on the effects of atmospheric CO2 on photosynthesis and CO2 supplementation in agriculture.

It's about enriching the atmosphere with extra carbon dioxide to enhance plant metabolism—inside of a traditional farmer's or horticulturist's greenhouse.

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It's about enriching the atmosphere with extra carbon dioxide to enhance plant metabolism—inside of a traditional farmer's or horticulturist's greenhouse.





That is part of the article.

The first part of the article is more important, and ties into a video I posted a while back.
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I'll just drop this here.

Climate change is not settled.
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I'll just drop this (Internet page link) here.

Climate change is not settled.

As a layman, I cannot dissect their ideas and arguments sentence by sentence, and number by number.

But I remain of the opinion that when it comes to Climate Research, these groups and individuals are not the "varsity squad."

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

As a layman, I cannot dissect their ideas and arguments sentence by sentence, and number by number.

But I remain of the opinion that when it comes to Climate Research, these people and groups are not the "varsity squad."



Color me surprised
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Color me surprised


you claim some science
but fail to recognize paid scabs vs real researchers studying a subject
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you claim some science
but fail to recognize paid scabs vs real researchers studying a subject

The ability to "recognize paid scabs vs real researchers" is what is leading most of us to our conclusions.
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"Hot Enough For You?"
 
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After this summer, no one can deny our climate crisis.

Win McCormack for The New Republic; September 14, 2023.
https://newrepublic.com/art...75333/hot-enough-you


I knew that old hot weather "bromide" must have been pressed into duty as the title or banner for at least one magazine article.

I started by searching for a cartoon that would pair it with a humanized depiction of "Year 2023."

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The ability to "recognize paid scabs vs real researchers" is what is leading most of us to our conclusions.


Quoted for Truth.
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The ability to "recognize paid scabs vs real researchers" is what is leading most of us to our conclusions.


^^^ This. ^^^
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It is well known that the Oil Industry has spent BILLIONS of dollars hiring FAILED/Out of WORK scientists to run the "No Climate change/anthropogenic Global warming" BS up the public's keisters....

More and more scientists are acknowledging that we are in for a real disaster- even most farmers are now acknowledging the coming disaster. Your grandchildren WILL starve because of inability to predict weather accurately enough to grow crops...Of course, you ultra-conservatives all eat beef only- and you don't need crops of any sort to feed cattle...."right"?
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
"Hot Enough For You?"
Win McCormack for The New Republic; September 14, 2023.
https://newrepublic.com/art...75333/hot-enough-you

I knew that old hot weather "bromide" must have been pressed into duty as the title or banner for at least one magazine article.

I started by searching for a cartoon that would pair it with a humanized depiction of "Year 2023."


Again with the gibberish. Bromide, , ?

Humanized depiction of "Year 2023 ? Are you trying to Wichita ?

Hot enough ? rinselberg, I have worked in the searing heat, the frigid cold, even rainy and snowy windy conditions. Sometimes, I have endured 16 to 18 hours of straight work, physical dangerous work. That is what I have lived through. Not to mention the things I did which endangered me.

Do you think an increase of one degree in 100 years is going to kill me ? Or are you worried about yourself ? Perhaps the newt turtles ?

Worry not rhombencephalon rinselberg.

Or, is it remythologizing rinselberg ?

Why don't you give a damn that the old hot weather Global Warming "bromide" scare phrase was dropped. Your ilk claimed global warming. With damning data, from the fraudulent placed data gathering tools. There was the United Nations email exposing scam acknowledging the farce. Lets not forget, the world wide gathering of idiots to "summit" about global warming, on the coldest day in modern history.

I think that is when the new claim "climate change" description came to be. Not to mention not even one doom and gloom claim came to be. Since Al Gore bilked the minions.

Hot enough for me ?



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