Originally posted by rinselberg: The geography and topography of the Los Angeles Basin created the dramatic smog episodes caused by heat inversions of the atmosphere, but all around the world, cities and the surrounding areas had air above that was hazier and less transparent because of the aerosol and particle emissions that were endemic to that time in world history.
Why don't you want to dance with me ?
Endemic, ? Oh, I forgot, the fear factor, .
Boo Hoo !
Heat inversions ? What quack made that up ? I do think I see your logic inversion.
LA is a zhit hole city. Let's stop the world so LA can continue to be a zhit hole city.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: You can look at these photographs and sense that the temperature around you (if you were there) would be somewhat lower, because of the sunlight being weaker at ground level because a certain percentage of it was being blocked from ever reaching the ground by these aerosols and particles.
You are asking us to reach, to believe you, . Somewhat lower ? My temperature in Bandera, also in Kerrville, is lower than in San Antonio, 60 miles away. Always, winter, summer, never hotter. We have never known what "smog" is. Is my sunlight weaker at ground level because a certain percentage of it was being blocked from ever reaching the ground by these aerosols and particles ? NO !
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Originally posted by rinselberg: ... and turned into a diffuse or indirect lighting that did not light up the ground and oceans with the same warming effect as direct or high angle sunlight... like the sun's warmth from mid-morning to mid-afternoon on a day with clear or mostly clear skies.
Let's absorb it. Let's put solar panels on every vacant spot on the Earth, to save the Earth from a one degree of a temperature in 100 years. If that prediction will be the only fear factor, is nothing to fear. Again, !
Will you still be saying "the sky is falling" ?
If you want to dance, dance with me. Unless, you can not dance !
Originally posted by cliffw: Let's absorb it. Let's put solar panels on every vacant spot on the Earth, to save the Earth from a one degree of a temperature in100 years.
I'm sorry to say it, but your willingness to bloviate about global warming far exceeds your interest in becoming conversant in any way with how the climate scientists think about it.
You are denying the validity of something you know almost nothing about.
I think you are not separating the climate science from the ways in which people and organizations (including governments) are reacting to the climate science.
You don't like the prospect of more electric road vehicles, or you are very dubious that it can be made to work. That's understandable. But I think you let that contaminate your attitude towards the climate scientists and their research.
Maybe more electric cars will be good, or maybe it won't, but that doesn't change the scientific understanding that connects human greenhouse gas emissions with greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere, which connects with the greenhouse effect and how that is pushing towards an increasingly warmer planet.
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I'm sorry to say it, but your willingness to bloviate about global warming far exceeds your interest in becoming conversant in any way with how the climate scientists think about it.
Oh, I see, you do not bloviate about Global Warming, .
I AM the conversant. You are the one who added the dodge and weave dance step to the Wiggle. I have never not responded to your thoughts, your questions.
I am sorry rinselberg. I didn't realize you were a Climate Scientist. Where did you study ? OPOU ? DGU ?
I almost finished 11th grade in high school. I am, more than you, capable of thought. In part, because I am conversant.
Are you going to higher education to be smarter, or, do you know it all already ?
I am consistently always trying to know it all. I know I will never know it all, because you never have known it all.
You are affirming the validity of something you know almost nothing about. Because you don't know how to think. Well, I have to take that back. You think what you are told to think.
Tell me. What in your brain convinced you that the Climate Gawds were right ?
I am smart enough to know that I will not get an answer. Because I think. I have logic, because I think.
I have been whipping your opinion's azz, because ... I am capable of thought. Your thoughts are plagiarized from what others think because, you have been told what to believe. I have not seen you offer a thought, ever, that you can or ever have defended. With self thoughtful thought.
You probably don't think the reason I have ever need a "link" to make you think what I say is true. Why do you need those ... Lies, Damn lies, Statistics, Graphs, and Links ?
I am running out of daylight. I am not done yet.
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Originally posted by cliffw: ... Have you noticed that rinselberg dances the wiggle.
They say the fittest shall survive Yet the unfit may live Let 'em wear gaudy colors Or avoid display Hey it don't matter It's all the same So I do this and I do that So I do this and I do that So I do this and I do that It's never straight up and down It's never straight up and down It's never straight up and down It's never straight up and down Oh you got a nickel I got a dime I'd like to get to know you But I haven't got the time You gotta walk like a mannequin Roll like a tire Act on reaction Dodge the big spud fryer So wiggle on the bottom Wiggle on the top Wiggle up the middle And laugh a lot Cause I've been living in a wiggly world Wiggly world, a wiggly world I got to tell you I've been living in a wiggly world now
Originally posted by cliffw: Tell me. What in your brain convinced you that the Climate Gawds were right?
I think that the Climate Gawds (climate scientists) are much closer to the truth than is "cliffw".
It's based on a preponderance of the evidence, which includes what I have read and viewed from the climate scientists themselves; what I have read and viewed in the news media about what the climate scientists say they believe, as reported by the news media; and finally, it includes how the climate scientists and news media reporters converse with me. (Of course, it's a one-way conversation.) In other words, what they look and sound like, as I perceive them through the medium of the media.
Forum member "cliffw" seems more convinced that the climate scientists are wrong, than I am convinced that they are right.
For me, aligning myself with the climate scientists is based on what I perceive as a preponderance of the evidence.
The way that "cliffw" is aligning himself against the climate scientists seems more like an Article of Faith, on his part.
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Rinselberg once said he went to Harvard. I don't doubt that.
Isn't that where Fauxcahontas taught?
I can tell people that I went to Notre Dame, MIT, and spent some time at Oak Ridge National Laboratory... But as soon as my trailer was unloaded I left.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: I think that the Climate Gawds (climate scientists) are much closer to the truth than is "cliffw".
Ah, I see, you don't know how to think.
I will walk you through "how to think". I need you to think, for yourself, meaning for your personal benefit. And ours.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: It's based on a preponderance of the evidence, which includes what I have read and viewed from the climate scientists themselves; what I have read and viewed in the news media about what the climate scientists say they believe, as reported by the news media; and finally, it includes how the climate scientists and news media reporters converse with me. (Of course, it's a one-way conversation.) In other words, what they look and sound like, as I perceive them through the medium of the media.
What do you think is wrong with your above thoughts ? Oh, there is so much. Pick one.
I am sorry. I need to put on my Easter Bunny suit. I have been told Bumbling Biden is lost and needs guidance.
Originally posted by cliffw: I am sorry. I need to put on my Easter Bunny suit. I have been told Bumbling Biden is lost and needs guidance.
They were not confident I could handle Bumbling Biden. They also hired 'backup'.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
I think that the Climate Gawds (climate scientists) are much closer to the truth than is "cliffw".
It's based on a preponderance of the evidence, which includes what I have read and viewed from the climate scientists themselves; what I have read and viewed in the news media about what the climate scientists say they believe, as reported by the news media; and finally, it includes how the climate scientists and news media reporters converse with me. (Of course, it's a one-way conversation.) In other words, what they look and sound like, as I perceive them through the medium of the media.
It takes a man to confess his ignorance. We have realized it but am glad you might see it.
Preponderance of the evidence ? The only evidence you see is that that supports your opinion. Do you really believe that if it is on the idiotnet that it is true ? What you read and viewed is from your own choice of news intelligence ? What have you read or viewed which challenges what you believe ?
Preponderance of the evidence ? How sad and utterly repulsive. You want to condemn impoverished children of color to work as slaves mining toxic materials, without personal protective equipment in an endeavor which has not been developed with any safety considerations.
Then these toxic materials are washed in local waterways, polluting them.
You want to contaminate the Earth with billions and billions of waste batteries.
You want to eliminate 1000's of very good paying jobs, devastating families, local economies, and many other things.
For what ? Your traumatic fear that 1 degree rise in temperature in 100 years is going to annihilate all life on the planet.
All on the evidence it takes to indict a ham sandwich.
As I said, it seems as if you do not know how to think. You logic is weak because your reasoning is weak.
The only evidence you see of which to indict a ham sandwich is only the things you will consider. Of course you will think the preponderance of evidence supports you predetermined view. Anyone accomplished in thinking, logic, and reasoning would question what they have been told. You seem to be lacking there also. You have been assimilate by the Borg.
I have been trying to help you think, by asking questions of you which require thought. Is there a reason you don't answer them ? Is it because you don't want to think, or, you will not accept any new belief of truth ?
When one weighs evidence, they need to also consider their experiences with such evidence. Has one Global Warming prediction came true ? Do you always believe people who have a track record of ZERO ?
All the Green Gawds Disciples want us to do things, which they won't do. Have you given up all fossil fuels ? If the Greenies are so wishing to save the world, they should give up all fossil fuels. Wouldn't that cut our green house gas emissions by half ?
It chaps my azz that the Nit Wits want me to subsidize their Lunacy at wallet point.
What this congressman fails to figure out, like the majority of the R's in congress, and even Trump himself, is that they keep asking the wrong questions and seem to be under the impression that the left-wing lunatics are just simply unaware that of what they're doing or are just incompetent, but the reality is they know exactly what they are doing.
They know "globull warming" is BS, they know that EV's, wind & solar power, will never work realistically. They know ALL these things.
The real goal to to limit the movement of the people, to keep them in certain areas, to keep them under control, to force people to bend to their will and cotrol what they eat, drink, think, say, do, where they go, how they get there, etc., all under the guise of "globull warming".
WE, the human race, the carbon-based lifeforms, are the carbon dioxide, they want eliminated.
This is what they hoped to accomplish with the SCAMdemic, but that failed like everything else they do.
And this nonsense will fail too.
We tried EV's in the 70's - FAIL. We tried EV's and solar power in the 80's & 90's - FAIL. Now they're trying EV's, solar power, wind farms, and the LIE that CO2 is a "greenhouse gas".
There's nitrogen in the air as well, 78.09% to be exact, why is that not a problem? There's also 0.93% argon in the air, but apparently that's not a problem.
But these fools expect us to believe that the 0.04% of carbon dioxide is the problem, and will wipe out life as we know it? Seriously?
Are they retarded?
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Originally posted by Fitz301: There's nitrogen in the air as well, 78.09% to be exact, why is that not a problem? There's also 0.93% argon in the air, but apparently that's not a problem.
The air has lots of Nitrogen molecules and Oxygen molecules. Each Nitrogen molecule is two Nitrogen atoms bonded together. Each Oxygen molecule is two Oxygen atoms bonded together. These are symmetric chemical bonds, because it looks the same from either end.
That's different than the bonds in the greenhouse gas molecules, like a molecule of carbon dioxide or CO2. In the case of CO2, each of the two Oxygen atoms is bonded separately to the Carbon atom. So there are two C-O bonds in each molecule of CO2. A C-O bond does not look the same from either end, because Carbon and Oxygen are different elements. These are asymmetric bonds.
Argon doesn't even exist in molecular form. It's just single atoms of Argon. There aren't any bonds.
It's the asymmetric bonds that create the greenhouse effect, and Nitrogen, Oxygen and Argon are all excluded from this category. This is why Nitrogen, Oxygen and Argon are not greenhouse gases and do not contribute to global warming.
Nuclear Warming, an immediate existential threat. Which American city do you volunteer to be the first destroyed ? Philadelphia ? ' To make it a symbolic destruction. ' Now, choose twenty more.
Originally posted by rinselberg: General Motors will lead a $50 million funding round for lithium extraction startup EnergyX
GM Ventures is leading a $50 million funding round for Texas startup EnergyX. EnergyX has technology that can mine lithium more efficiently than current methods. GM will help EnergyX deploy its technology, while getting "dibs" on lithium from mining projects developed by the startup.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: "London Calling" Big Wind Wants You!
Posted to YouTube on April 10, 2023.
Is that how you want to respond to my post , just before yours ?
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Originally posted by cliffw: Preponderance of the evidence ? The only evidence you see is that that supports your opinion. Do you really believe that if it is on the idiotnet that it is true ? What you read and viewed is from your own choice of news intelligence ? What have you read or viewed which challenges what you believe ?
Preponderance of the evidence ? How sad and utterly repulsive. You want to condemn impoverished children of color to work as slaves mining toxic materials, without personal protective equipment in an endeavor which has not been developed with any safety considerations.
Then these toxic materials are washed in local waterways, polluting them.
You want to contaminate the Earth with billions and billions of waste batteries.
You want to eliminate 1000's of very good paying jobs, devastating families, local economies, and many other things.
For what ? Your traumatic fear that 1 degree rise in temperature in 100 years is going to annihilate all life on the planet.
All on the evidence it takes to indict a ham sandwich.
As I said, it seems as if you do not know how to think. You logic is weak because your reasoning is weak.
The only evidence you see of which to indict a ham sandwich is only the things you will consider. Of course you will think the preponderance of evidence supports you predetermined view. Anyone accomplished in thinking, logic, and reasoning would question what they have been told. You seem to be lacking there also. You have been assimilate by the Borg.
I have been trying to help you think, by asking questions of you which require thought. Is there a reason you don't answer them ? Is it because you don't want to think, or, you will not accept any new belief of truth ?
When one weighs evidence, they need to also consider their experiences with such evidence. Has one Global Warming prediction came true ? Do you always believe people who have a track record of ZERO ?
All the Green Gawds Disciples want us to do things, which they won't do. Have you given up all fossil fuels ? If the Greenies are so wishing to save the world, they should give up all fossil fuels. Wouldn't that cut our green house gas emissions by half ?
It chaps my azz that the Nit Wits want me to subsidize their Lunacy at wallet point.
Poorly played son, poorly played. Did you post that because I told you it chaps my azz to be forced to pay for Lunacy ? You asked for it. I can play your game.
Your response confirmed what I suspected. I did not want to believe it. I would bet you would be leading the "shout down mob" if I voiced my thoughts in a public venue. Leftists refuse to debate and will not even consider an opinion but their own. They refuse any to voice their opinion which might spur people to thought. Like a coch roach, they scatter from the light.
Also, did anyone ask you to help us find Global Warming Bullzhitnews or info ? You are not the only one who knows how to Google. Are you really that narcissistic of your opinion that you want to continually parade it's Lunacy to all the world. Even a dog will not defecate in it's own space.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: I guess "Fitz" is the first person to have ever said "I don't believe in the urgency, or even the priority for the world as a whole, including national governments, to take steps that are intended to reign in greenhouse gas-driven global warming." The first person to have said that, in those or similar words. Because "Fitz" is a man who truly has thoughts of his own. He couldn't possibly have been influenced by anyone else's revealed words on this topic.
Can you be that devoid of thought ? Billions of people think the same way as Fitz. I guess rinselberg is the first person in the world that believed Chicken Little. Talk about calling the pot black, .
I don't know why I am wasting my time learning you how to think. You don't want to. What reasonable person would consider your opinion when you have demonstrated it is worth less than snot.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: I would like to know how this "Abrupt Climate Change" book has been viewed by the IPCC and whether there's any discussion of this book in the latest synthesis report from the IPCC.
Not just the IPCC.
It is a source of CO2. From creating it, till after I burned my copy.
I simply don't believe Al Gore, a flim flam artist if there ever was one. The same blarney fraud scam that the Swedish Ice Princess is singing for all the ignorant suckers out there in the lands of duh iq disabled. The separation of you and your wealth, to feed their appetites for extravagant lifestyles, and security for themselves. Just you try to collect reparations from them, for the fraud statements they've made over the course of their careers. ' Sorry Al, you can only fill your bizjet's tanks to 1/4 on the flight back to the beach ! '
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Argon doesn't even exist in molecular form. It's just single atoms of Argon. There aren't any bonds.
A molecule can be defined as the smallest particle of an element or a compound that is capable of an independent existence and shows all the properties of that substance.
It says that in general molecule is group of two or more than two atoms, but it could be one atom also in case of Argon, Helium and other noble gases. A single atom of noble particle satisfy the necessary condition of molecule, that it is capable to exist independently and it show all property of that noble gas. Thus atoms of Noble gases such as Argon, Helium can also be called molecules.
Bottom line, Argon exists as a monatomic molecule.
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Originally posted by Mickey_Moose: Bottom line, Argon exists as a monatomic [single atom] molecule.
Fair enough. I was not on point about the terminology.
That does not "wreck" what I was saying about greenhouse gases. A molecule of the inert gas Argon is the same as a single atom of Argon. There's no chemical bonding of one atom to another in an Argon molecule, because there's only one atom (of Argon) in an Argon molecule. And that is why the Argon in the atmosphere has no planet-warming greenhouse effect. None whatsoever.
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I have been thinking ... about what I said while conversing with rinselberg.
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Originally posted by cliffw: Even a dog will not defecate in it's own space.
Since then, I was wondering why rinselberg will defecate his personality. What motive could he have to do it intentionally ?
I was thinking, why did he reply to my thoughts with his "message". After I ridiculed and debunked his subject matter, and, called his thinking abilities in doubt.
So, I assessed his posted reply meaning. I must have triggered a sign of his guilt and embarrassment when I accused him of convicting poor, impoverished, children of color, to work for salve wages, to mine toxic elements to produce electric batteries. In a process with no personal protection equipment or safety standards. Which also pollute local waterways.
Convicted on the evidence which can indict a ham sandwich. Evidence, one sided, which he did not evaluate. I must have triggered his guilt and his shame of doing so.
How can he save face ? He thinks this will absolve him of his guilt and shame ...
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Originally posted by rinselberg: General Motors will lead a $50 million funding round for lithium extraction startup EnergyX
GM Ventures is leading a $50 million funding round for Texas startup EnergyX.
EnergyX has technology that can mine lithium more efficiently than current methods.
GM will help EnergyX deploy its technology, while getting "dibs" on lithium from mining projects developed by the startup.
... knowing full well the the 'tree hugger' denomination of the Cult will never allow mining on US soil. Knowing full well that GM will never be able to compete with free labor. What is this getting "dibs" about, ? Did you recognize that he highlighted TEXAS ? I am from Texas.
His next response to me, ...
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
"London Calling" Big Wind Wants You!
Hmm. back to the indoctrination game plan. London is not calling. London was not even mentioned in that youtube. The indoctrination game plan needs to make people think everyone think the Gawds are 'salvation'. So others will think like that too.That same strategy is used in all dumbocratic endeavors. That's why the dumb in government has all the ABC departments claiming the GRIFT is true.
Global Warming sounded plausible at first. Till we found out that they fudged the data and the UN's International Panel for Climate Control got caught in an email expose describing their acknowledgement of the Grift. I am wondering if rinselberg is complicit in the Scam, or if the Gawds are using him as a useful idiot. He believes in the [Cult because other lemings are going over the cliff, en mass. There is other pertinent information he is hiding from us, or, too ignorant to know. I think the latter.
We know he will not answer questions which question the validity of his Religion. I would think anyone will answer a question of their assertions as fact]. He reminds me of a Bible Thumper. Instead of thinking the sky is falling, he is proclaiming "the end is near".
I doubt he knows that all fossil fuel vehicles only account for contributing 15% of the CO2 to the atmosphere. Be ready for more control of your freedom. The other 85% contributors will be next.
It all became surreal because we did not stand up against bullzhit ! We better stand up now, before it's too late.
He is either complicit or too ignorant to know he is helping bring down America and allow China to control the world. In the guise of saving the world. One would hope he remembers that during the Scamdemic, we depended on China for most everything we needed. Which was unbelievably stupid. Now, he is trying to make us surrender our ability to ... travel, deliver products, farm, have night illumination, among more than you can imagine. Allowing China to control our fate when they decide to take over.
I could see these hydrogen-powered Internal Combustion Engines carving out some niche applications in the road and transport vehicle marketplace—including ships and prop-driven aircraft..
I can't see them as "EV Killers".
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Originally posted by rinselberg: That does not "wreck" what I was saying about greenhouse gases. There's no chemical bonding of one atom to another in an Argon molecule, because there's only one atom (of Argon) in an Argon molecule. And that is why the Argon in the atmosphere has no planet-warming greenhouse effect. None whatsoever.
Tell us disciple, do all the greenhouse gasses have their own exclusive 'click' ? Or, do they intermingle ?
Did you know argon can get trapped inside of oxygen ?
I could see these hydrogen-powered Internal Combustion Engines carving out some niche applications in the road and transport vehicle marketplace—including ships and prop-driven aircraft..
Originally posted by rinselberg: I think Lithium is already being extracted in commercial quantities from salt deposits in South America.
Really ? We have salt domes here in TEXAS.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: EV vehicle designs, EV motors and drivetrains, EV batteries... none of this is static, or locked in to exactly as it is today.
Just like internal combustion engines ?
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Originally posted by rinselberg: EV vehicle designs, EV motors and drivetrains, EV batteries... none of this is static, or locked in to exactly as it is today.
Yet, not one fossil fuel refinery has been approved for construction since the 1970's. Your complaint is caused in part by 50 year old refineries.
C'mon rinselberg. Don't hold back. Tell us all about the virtues of EV's. Perhaps you can get more people agreeable if you told them that a low end model will cost $60,000. To replace it's battery costs about $20,000. You can't do it yourself. It weighs about as much as most vehicles on the road today. 3,000 lbs. One would be stupid to buy a used one wondering when he is going to have to spend $20.000.
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? Oh, I forgot, the fear factor, 
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