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The Miura project begins by Archie
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Originally posted by troyboy:


Please don't do it, this car is too classy to add something as cheesy as a fake engine cover. Once again great job, this car is by far the best thing to roll out of Archies shop


Although I absolutely love the Miura that Archie and his guys built, your car is one in a billion as well. Bottom line is that Archie and company do some amazing work and I can't wait to see what's next!

Archie - the car is perfect just the way it is. I am sure that if the owner wanted an exact duplicate of a Miura, he probably would have just bought a real one. Why own a real one when you can have a one of a kind work of automotive art? Great job and thanks again for sharing all your work.

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awesome... and in Dallas Cowboys colors no less... too bad they are really sucking wind this year.



I'd ditch the front license plate. I know it is required by law, but it kills the front.

I've never been ticketed for not having one,... when I have been pulled over and asked about it, I just explain the bracket is no longer made and I am trying to source one for this 25 y/o classic. They are usually complimentary before giving me the speeding ticket...

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Originally posted by blakeinspace:

awesome... and in Dallas Cowboys colors no less... too bad they are really sucking wind this year.



I'd ditch the front license plate. I know it is required by law, but it kills the front.

I've never been ticketed for not having one,... when I have been pulled over and asked about it, I just explain the bracket is no longer made and I am trying to source one for this 25 y/o classic. They are usually complimentary before giving me the speeding ticket...


The front plate is mounted on a bracket that can be removed easily by removing 2 wing bolts. Then the whole bracket & plate can be removed & the tabs that the wing bolts screw into are hidden.

There are some details of the front plate mounting on this page of the build http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F.../HTML/000003-16.html

Archie

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The car is absolutley fantastic. The only thing I would change is the wheels. It is so close to the original in appearance a correct looking set of reproduction wheels would complete the illusion.

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Thats the best Lamborghini Miura Replica I have seen so far.

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Originally posted by Rick 88:

The car is absolutley fantastic. The only thing I would change is the wheels. It is so close to the original in appearance a correct looking set of reproduction wheels would complete the illusion.



Ditto - fantastic build, beautiful car - the only thing I'd do is find some repro wheels! - kv

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+1 on different wheels.

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If anyone wonders why we made so many custom parts & bought so few authentic parts on this car, this is why.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...&hash=item35adc9379b

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...&hash=item1c15f02ba8

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Holy Moly, the headlight is more than a lot of people have spent on their entire car!

Yikes!

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Originally posted by War Hammer:

I just looked up several pictures of SVs and only 1 had wider arches in the back.

Just an observation.

Paul


I’m sorry if I insist, but the “SV” always had wider wheel arches, due to the fact that it was fitted with wider wheels and tyres. On the web and on several books you find this information:

“On the outside the most striking difference was the bulging of the rear wheel arches, they had to be widened by 13 cm because the Miura SV was fitted with the new Pirelli’s ..."
( http://www.topspeed.com/car...-miura-sv-ar616.html ).

You can even compare the two pictures below.





However, don’t get me wrong, please. I really like this replica, even the way it is! I just said what I would change, if it were mine.

As to what concerns the reason, why the owner didn’t buy a real one, it’s probably that the real thing is far too expensive. Of course, he may not have wanted to have a perfect copy. Anyway, he still put Lamborghini and Miura and Bertone badges on it, in order to make it look as real as possible.

Anyway, Archie and his guys really did a fantastic job!

Best regards

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Originally posted by Panda:


I’m sorry if I insist, but the “SV” always had wider wheel arches, due to the fact that it was fitted with wider wheels and tyres. On the web and on several books you find this information:

“On the outside the most striking difference was the bulging of the rear wheel arches, they had to be widened by 13 cm because the Miura SV was fitted with the new Pirelli’s ..."
( http://www.topspeed.com/car...-miura-sv-ar616.html ).

You can even compare the two pictures below.





However, don’t get me wrong, please. I really like this replica, even the way it is! I just said what I would change, if it were mine.

As to what concerns the reason, why the owner didn’t buy a real one, it’s probably that the real thing is far too expensive. Just look at the costs of spare parts ... .Of course, he may not have wanted to have a perfect copy. Anyway, he still put Lamborghini and Miura and Bertone badges on it, in order to make it look as real as possible.

Anyway, Archie and his guys really did a fantastic job!

Best regards

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Originally posted by Archie:

If anyone wonders why we made so many custom parts & bought so few authentic parts on this car, this is why.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...&hash=item35adc9379b

Archie



Good golly Ms. Molly! Those grills are ridiculously over priced (they must be stamped Lamborghini or something?) otherwise, you guys did a great job in reproducing the same item.

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Originally posted by Archie:

Got these pics & note from the owner today.

Well it is finally painted and back home . Here are a few pics and I will send some better ones when I figure out how to frame the pictures right with this digital camera.

Archie


Not that I don't absolutely love these pics, but are more on the way? Or any way to get high-res versions of these ones?

Great work Archie & Crew!

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Originally posted by madcurl:

Good golly Ms. Molly! Those grills are ridiculously over priced (they must be stamped Lamborghini or something?) otherwise, you guys did a great job in reproducing the same item.


How about a headlight cover for 3650 (<$$$$)?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...&hash=item1c15f02ba8

Or a headlight bucket & lense

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...&hash=item1c15f023d2

The correct wheels...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...&hash=item1c147b209c

& what good are wheels without spinners.... JCWhitney supplied our spinners for $ 39.99 plus shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...&hash=item483c73d13d

The owner of the car sent me these links & this note.....

 
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The simple fact is that authenticity is expensive when talking about low volume exotic cars and replacement parts. This is why restoring a real Miura to original specs is so costly and why a restored SV commands a price in the order of a million dollars . Part of the fun and challenge of creating a replica is substituting affordable parts for expensive ones to create the appearance without the exorbitant cost .

Like the parking lights being from a Toyota Rav 4 rather than a Miura . Hard to tell the difference. No Miura originals available on EBay at the moment but in 09 you could get ONE for $449.99 plus 14.50 shipping and the price is much higher now, I am sure, given the falling value of the dollar .

The end result of this build is a beautiful Fiero based car that in many ways is not only faster but better than the original . No worries of the engine catching fire or the front end getting light as the gas gauge goes down and you are unable to steer at 100 mph ! Yet this hand built American rendition with Detroit chassis and engine is to my mind as beautiful and dimensionally correct as the original hand built Italian version .You and your crew did a fantastic job and the paint shop guys simply marvel at the quality of construction as did the mechanics down here who have seen it.


I agree, it would be no fun building a replica of any car if you're just going to use a bunch of real & expensive parts to try to make it look 100%.

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Originally posted by Archie:

"No worries of the engine catching fire."



That's funny! Not that it would but still.

~Tyler

Archie check your PMs

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That's funny! Not that it would but still.

~Tyler

Archie check your PMs



I'll tell you what's even funnier........

The references in his message to me about no worries of the engine catching fire or the front end getting light, were references to the Miura, not the Fiero. The gas tank in the Miura was up front, thus the reference to the front end getting light as you emptied the tank. And I think you'll find that fire problems with multi-carb setup on the Miura were what he was refering to.

Archie

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Very cool trivia. I would think that the owner is quite happy pulling up to the gas pumps in his car. Wether it has inovative parts, from sources not intended to be Miura, she still sits right!

Edit: More pics please...

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Edit: More pics please...



x2 Just saw the car back from paint, it looks fantastic!

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I'll tell you what's even funnier........

The references in his message to me about no worries of the engine catching fire or the front end getting light, were references to the Miura, not the Fiero. The gas tank in the Miura was up front, thus the reference to the front end getting light as you emptied the tank. And I think you'll find that fire problems with multi-carb setup on the Miura were what he was refering to.

Archie



Yup. Top Gear did a bit on the Miura and that was two problems they mentioned. Since it was carbureated, Hammond said everyone once in a while, it would just belch petrol on the manifolds and burn the entire car down.

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Some more updated pictures.

He's planning to try to get some more pictures this weekend.











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The pictures are getting better















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Most amazing work! Beautiful exterior with an immaculate interior.

Any high-res shots that you could e-mail for background??

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Most amazing work! Beautiful exterior with an immaculate interior.

Any high-res shots that you could e-mail for background??


Yes I have these shots plus 13 more.

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http://jalopnik.com/5715881...ll-haunt-your-dreams

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I bet that burns a certain ex-member's ass. Archie, you deserve the recognition for the work your company put into this project.

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Awesome project! Unbelievable craftsmanship. I love to see quality builds like this. The only problem is that I cannot see the pictures. Is anyone else having the same problem?

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Awesome project! Unbelievable craftsmanship. I love to see quality builds like this. The only problem is that I cannot see the pictures. Is anyone else having the same problem?


I host all my own pictures on my ftp with my Hosting people.

I've been using the same Host for my Web Site for nearly 10 years & Right now the web site says" Bandwidth Limit Exceeded. The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later. "

I've never had that happen before & don't know what I should do about it.

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Awesome project! Unbelievable craftsmanship. I love to see quality builds like this. The only problem is that I cannot see the pictures. Is anyone else having the same problem?


Yeah the pictures look like they were hosted on Archie's website and his bandwidth limit was exceeded.

I'm sure they'll be back soon. Maybe that jalopnik article caused WAY more traffic to his site than regular. Which is a good thing in a way!

edit: btw you have a PM Archie

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Assuming you have a monthly plan, you should have your service restored Jan 1st.

Or you could contact your hosting provider and see how much they charge per gigabyte for over-the-limit bandwidth. Sometimes it's cost-prohibitive and you're better off just waiting. Alternatively, they may have the 'next plan up' from what you currently have that has enough extra bandwidth to last you until the new year.

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I got some new pics of the Miura today.







The weather in TX seems to be better than it is here.

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I hope those wheels aren't permanent!

I think the other ones were a little better...

some nice old school BBS wheels would look fantastic on there. Or some replicas of the original equipment... hmm car looks great though!

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Before:



after:


I like the after pic. The other rims looked to modern.

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I like the after pic. The other rims looked to modern.


That's what he told me.

You can't get old style stamped steel wheels anymore. Even if you could they would be to narrow to use modern tires.

So he got these Classic style, period correct wheels from Boyd's. They are working on spinners for them too.

I like them.

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might be still available

Will

http://www.eurospares.co.uk...=28362&S=&ID4=808317

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Do I spy a blue dingy thingy?

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Do I spy a blue dingy thingy?


Oh No!!! Now people are going to start complaining that the underdash area doesn't look authentic.

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Oh No!!! Now people are going to start complaining that the underdash area doesn't look authentic.



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This car is really a work of art. If Ferruccio Lamborghini were alive today and you took him for a ride in this car, he'd be grinning ear to ear.

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Oh No!!! Now people are going to start complaining that the underdash area doesn't look authentic.



Ha From what I've seen, there's two kinds of owners of BDT's: those that really want it, and those that don't know it's removable. I was wondering which he was

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