quote Originally posted by sanderson: Cliff, my advice on rooms would be to talk to some of the cheaper hotels like Econolodge and America's Best Value Inn and see if they would hold a block of rooms (say 15) for us at a discounted rate until a certain date like 9/15. Anyone who books with the group name before that date gets a room at the discounted rate and after that date you're on your own.

Thanks Scott.
Americas Best Value Inn did not meet the Cindi seal of approval. I will look further into them.
The Econolodge, hmm...I have no notes on them. I will check right now.

I again drove the cruise route to finalize it, check a few more details. It is awesome. Mileage comes in at 103 miles. Time...well, that is a little tougher to judge. See, the roads want to make you go fast, the scenery will slow you down. Wife and I did it in two hours and fifteen minutes. I have an in route lunch stop planned though. Which is a surprise. Also, along the way, there are a couple of other stops worthy of stopping for. Blake hinted at one (I may have already let that cat out). Cindi wants/thinks I should not tell you all the details. She is against even teaser pics,
You will enjoy the cruise !

quote Originally posted by sanderson: Cliff, my advice on rooms would be to talk to some of the cheaper hotels like Econolodge and America's Best Value Inn and see if they would hold a block of rooms (say 15) for us at a discounted rate until a certain date like 9/15.

As I said, America's Best Value Inn did not meet Cindi's approval. I did check it out again. No, no, no. It is ok but that is it. Some good news though. Somehow Motel 6 slipped under my radar. They have enough rooms, are a newer facility, passed the approval inspection, and rooms regularly are $49.99, single occupancy. I will work on that rate. I am also gonna give River Inn Resort a chance to match it. Decision tonight.
I am struggling with the show. Times, location, activities, no problem. Awards are. We have a trophy shop and such. I also have a couple of other ideas. I just don't get the award thing. Myself, I have never been driven by awards. I don't need them. I understand the appreciation some have for them. At past events I have seen that everybody deserved an award. I don't think there should be a second place.
So, I am in a quandary in judging. My Dad has had many show winning cars. Some contests tougher than others. I can get his help but I thought I would run it by 'yall also. How many awards do you want ? What categories would we want judged ? The one I most appreciate is "most improved". That would however require logged records or history of each Fiero. I would like to see this become a staple of our events but yet again sometimes we might bring a different Fiero.

Gezzz Cliffw,
This should be called the rockin red river ruckus road ralley STORY BOOK!!! I like all the info!!

But gezzzzzzzzzzz!

I like short ,to the point, but keep on writing these long letters!! I am sure someone is reading it all. LOL

Will someone give me the run-down when this gets closer....

What Kevin?

Not enough pictures to keep you entertained?

quote Originally posted by blakeinspace: What Kevin? Not enough pictures to keep you entertained?

Sorry BOSS

Yeah you know..... one big pic and one sentence ....that is about all I can handle

hey cliff, how about a pic from the hill country that we will be traveling???

I was in the Fredericksburg, Johnson City area yesterday and this morning. I saw gas for an average price of $2.63 and the lowest price if $2.49 in Hearne Texas. It wasa 4 1/2 hour drive from 2 blocks from the Alamo in San Antonio to my home. I had gone to pick up some Fiero parts in a little town of Stonewall. We just missed peach season, and all of the orcherds were stripped bare.
Nice trip. We saw a few deer but not as many as I usually see around the area.

Joe Crawford

Did you get the wheels Joe?
If so, were they in good shape?
Mike

Okay -- we kinda need a head count. General purposes. Room count is not good enough.

Yes I got two . I got the others UPS today. One has a little curb rash, about 3 inches long. I'll get them on the car and post a pic here tomorrow. Raining to beat the heck right now. The Hill country was real pretty and green from all the wet weather they have had in that area in the past 40 days or so. I went by the Alamo, I gotta stop there if I am close.

$56.00 a room. You want a king or are you gonna put her in the other bed ?

I do need a head count.

God I love this place!!
She is agonna sleep with me in the King size bed for a total count of two. Agonna is a real Texas word ya know.
Thanks

quote Originally posted by sanderson: I'm ok with 50 miles one way to the Oasis. We ate their at Round-up three or four years ago - good varied menu and great view.

I am apprehensive about more driving miles for the group. I want to go. I also want to go to the Nimitz museum In Fredericksburg on Sunday.
I do need a head count.
I have a no more stuff plan. I have done the basics.

I just booked my room with Rachel, very nice and helpful.

quote Originally posted by revin: hey cliff, how about a pic from the hill country that we will be traveling???

Ya know, I am illiterate, stupid, dumb, and retarded, but....I am an internet wizard. Not !
Would anyone care to make a pre-rally cruise run ? We can do some "plan B routes".
This is Fiero country.

Parts swap would be good too !!

I, too, have booked my room.
Lookin forward to it.
Mike

quote Originally posted by josef644: Parts swap would be good too !!

Anyone want to play the 'White Elephant' game ?

I already have a Fiero, I dont know if I could afford the up keep on one. Just ask PT Barnum

I am going to edit my very first post to include all the factual details. This will be for easy reference and will be updated regularly. I should have had this set up from the get go so the curious that are undecided would look back for the details instead of reading five pages of text to put them together.
If someone would be so kind and give me a cut and paste map of the route that would be great.
From Kerrville, Park Road 27 west to Ingram. Continuing west on 39 through Hunt to 187. South to Vanderpool passing the Lost Maples State Park Entrance to 337. East on 337 to Medina. North back to Kerrville. I would like as close of a view as possible to highlight the curves. One which would include the rivers (Guadelupe and Sabinal) would also be great.
Give me some time to format my edit.
Also, in your PFF surfing, if you would include this linky Rockin Red River Ruckus Road Rally in your posts, perhaps we can attract more interest.

I have two heads to count three if you want to get nasty....


you figure that out!

TXGOOD and others these are the wheels from a 1984 Celebrity 14"X6.5 5 on100mm's These are why I was in the Rally area yesterday.



I havent cleaned them yet. and I only have two mounted to test fit.

Cliff i will call and make my reservations today without fail.

Joe Crawford
Pointblank, Tx

Joe
Those look pretty good.
Mike

Along with a head count I would also like an idea of which Fiero you are brining. Please remind me of how it is equipped. 38ooSC, T top, chop top, whatever. I will be updating this in the first post also. We will have other car enthusiasts viewing this thread. I want to entice them to come. Here is a chance to show our pride. A pic would also be nice.
Imagine, a car show where only Fieros are eligible to win, .
Thanks revin for the head count.
Looking forward to seeing you Joe. Those wheels do look good, hmmm. Hey, how were the Fiero pickings at Eckert and Son's ?
CenTexIndy, who was wanting that steering wheel ?
Remember all. Post your needs and desires. Someone might be able to bring it along.
EDIT
I can put these in the first post also and update them.

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1985 GT V-6
The only thing new on mine are the wheels.
Mike

Just yourself Mike ?

I`m probably going to bring one of my sons, too.
It`s my oldest one`s turn but he has a job now so
he will probably be working, but put me down for
2 people for now.

I'm bringing myself so just one here.

Well Cliff you have my picture with the wheels on it. I am gonna try to bring it on the Rally, but I do have a lot to finish up before then. The heat is then killer here. You can work in the early am, and after 7pm. After 1030 my garage is to hot to work in even with the big door open. I am a mower, and early am is the time of the day I have to cut the yards and stuff, or run the tractor if that is what I have set up for the day. That can eat your Fiero work time.
1986 SE 2.5 Duke, 0 miles on new engine. New GM clutch. new rear brakes, new AC comprerssor. 1984 Celebrity Alloy wheels. Short stubb shifter.



Do you want a pic of my wifes Elantra with the exellent AC? Looks like we might have to come in it. AC being a prerequisite to getting to come.

Joe Crawford
Pointblank, Tx

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Another tempting and interesting possibility. Cascade Caverns. Forty seven miles away. Again, another great drive. A forty five minute stroll through the cave. Perhaps better for those that want to get back early on Sunday. This is our rally. Perhaps we should put this to a vote. Only Scott (and I) seemed enthusiastic about the Admiral Nimitz museum. We can do anything. Plenty here to do. What would you like to do ?
Saturday night also. A drive out to Medina Lake () or perhaps Luckenbach, Tx. ? Thirty five miles, forty five minutes. Again, another great drive.
EDIT
Cascade Caverns has a 100 foot water fall.

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I've never been to Luckenbach might be fun. I would enjoy the cave deal too. Been to Natural Bridge Caverns 3 times.

Luckenbach
Looks like it is free in cost that night
??????
I will get back with them on that.
EDIT
It seems as though it is free from 1:00 till 3:00. I will have to call for the evenings activities.

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Cliff
You might want to start an impromtu itenerary
just so we kind of know what the basic plans
are.
Maybe map out the basic Friday night meet
and greet and whatever you have sort of finalized
for the weekend and then expand from there.
Just a thought
Mike

I was gonna say that

Perhaps you missed my post. I have edited the very first post, creating an itinerary. To be finalized still because I need a head count.