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War in Middle East by olejoedad
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

Hamas has to also obligate to this... if they shoot at the IDF, they absolutely can shoot back.


HAMAS shooting during the four hour cease fire isn't nearly as big of a deal (unless you're the one shot at) as this give HAMAS the time to rearm, relocate, set up defenses and gain advantages of organizing,scouting and identifying IDF's weak points..
No, this is not something the IDF was/is happy about but, I feel strongly they will follow the rules.

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WE ALL AGREE



we would be better off if there was no mob in Brooklyn



but nuking it is not a good way to get to that point



gaza is being nuked
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Originally posted by blackrams:

No, this is not something the IDF was/is happy about but, I feel strongly they will follow the rules.

Rams



The good guys always do...
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
"The Pause That Refreshes"


The pause that refreshes HAMAS.
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Hamas has to also obligate to this ...


That would mean letting human shields go to a safe zone.
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Apparently, the "pauses" aren't as simple as we have been told. This leads me to believe that Israel has a strategic plan. They aren't the kind to give a damn what the world thinks when their survival is at stake.
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Israel is escorting the citizens of Gaza to safety. Meanwhile, in Qatar: https://nypost.com/2023/11/...xury-lives-in-qatar/

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Apparently, the "pauses" aren't as simple as we have been told. This leads me to believe that Israel has a strategic plan. They aren't the kind to give a damn what the world thinks when their survival is at stake.


AMERICANS should think more like that.
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This is how leftists see the world.

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If Wichita's idea of "Leftists" were narrowed to people like the people in that photograph—those street protestors—that could make some sense.

Unfortunately, Wichita throws the word "Leftist" around with the same reckless abandon as a drunken chef who sets the kitchen on fire by pouring out an entire bottle of brandy to flambé the Cherries Jubilee.



Several days ago, I cited the case of House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, a Democrat (obviously) and so, there should be no doubt that Wichita regards him as a "Leftist"... or could regard him as a "Leftist" at any moment when that suits Wichita's mood. I cited Hakeem Jeffries, but that's hardly a one-off.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...L/000926-9.html#p320

Wichita's constant slagging on "Leftists" should always be taken with a Mount Everest-sized "grain" of salt... or at the very least, a judiciously poured shot of brandy.

It's not rational.

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Well, Biden might just have one more thing in common with Jimmy Carter.
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The Navy is planning on adding the "USS Joe Biden" to the nuclear submarine fleet?
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13 Israeli hostages are now in Egypt.
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Originally posted by Wichita:

This is how leftists see the world.




Yes, unfortunately... the "educated" left, primarily... the ones who have worthless degrees in gender studies, English literature, etc., these are the individuals who believe that this is a fight for racial social justice. They actually think the people in "palestine" are the dark-skinned, and the people in Israel are the white-skinned. They believe this because they've been told that the Jewish people were "colonizers," which is a stretch from the term occupiers... and they associate it with whatever history they think applies to what the British / French / Dutch / Spanish did in the 1600s... though, they conveniently leave out the Spanish because they're darker skinned, haha.


 
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If Wichita's idea of "Leftists" were narrowed to people like the people in that photograph—those street protestors—that could make some sense.

Unfortunately, Wichita throws the word "Leftist" around with the same reckless abandon as a drunken chef who sets the kitchen on fire by pouring out an entire bottle of brandy to flambé the Cherries Jubilee.

Several days ago, I cited the case of House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, a Democrat (obviously) and so, there should be no doubt that Wichita regards him as a "Leftist"... or could regard him as a "Leftist" at any moment when that suits Wichita's mood. I cited Hakeem Jeffries, but that's hardly a one-off.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...L/000926-9.html#p320

Wichita's constant slagging on "Leftists" should always be taken with a Mount Everest-sized "grain" of salt... or at the very least, a judiciously poured shot of brandy.

It's not rational.



I think what's worth mentioning here is that, if these people (the "educated" uneducated) don't represent all Democrats (which they don't), then they are certainly the loudest and most attention-seeking of all Democrats... which as we know, often increases support for a cause (whether good or bad).

But it's worth mentioning this poll: https://thehill.com/policy/...-over-israelis-poll/

"A Quinnipiac University poll released this week [mid-November] found that, among Democratic voters, 41 percent surveyed said their sympathies lie with the Palestinians, while 34 percent said they were more sympathetic to the Israelis, and 25 percent were undecided."

... so there's that.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I think what's worth mentioning here is that, if these people (the "educated" uneducated) don't represent all Democrats (which they don't), then they are certainly the loudest and most attention-seeking of all Democrats... which as we know, often increases support for a cause (whether good or bad).

But it's worth mentioning this poll: https://thehill.com/policy/...-over-israelis-poll/

"A Quinnipiac University poll released this week [mid-November] found that, among Democratic voters, 41 percent surveyed said their sympathies lie with the Palestinians, while 34 percent said they were more sympathetic to the Israelis, and 25 percent were undecided."

... so there's that.


"The Enemy of our Enemy is our Friend". While most Americans consider Israel our friend anyway, in general, Iran and all of it's proxies consider the West as mortal enemies. If for no other reason, our assistance to Israel is worth the effort to defeat the Enemy that would destroy us also. Some Americans seem to have forgotten that those Israel is fighting would love to see us destroyed.

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Originally posted by blackrams:

"The Enemy of our Enemy is our Friend". While most Americans consider Israel our friend anyway, in general, Iran and all of it's proxies consider the West as mortal enemies. If for no other reason, our assistance to Israel is worth the effort to defeat the Enemy that would destroy us also. Some Americans seem to have forgotten that those Israel is fighting would love to see us destroyed.




That's why I call them the uneducated... because they're so ignorant about what they're supporting. Literally oblivious. Even Ilhan Omar would be slaughtered in her homeland, because they would think a woman shouldn't have an education or power.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
That's why I call them the uneducated... because they're so ignorant about what they're supporting. Literally oblivious. Even Ilhan Omar would be slaughtered in her homeland, because they would think a woman shouldn't have an education or power.



 
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Senator Natasha Akpoti-Uduaghan, the lawmaker representing Kogi Central Senatorial district, alongside the Senate President, Godswill Akpabio and other key members of the 10th Senate, on Monday, received female parliamentarians from the Republic of Somalia.

Somalia has a 54-member parliament with 14 parliamentary seats occupied by women, representing 25.93 per cent, more than eight times higher than Nigeria’s parliament with 3.67 per cent female Senators.

Similarly, in Somalia’s lower cabinet, there are 54 women out of 275 members, while the Nigerian House of Representatives has 16 out of 360 members.

The Nigerian Senate has only four female members: Natasha Akpoti-Uduaghan (PDP), Ireti Kingibe (LP), Idiat Adebule (APC) and Ipalibo Banigo (PDP).

The photo and text were just published on November 15.

Ilhan Omar came from Somalia.
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The photo and text were just published on November 15.

Ilhan Omar came from Somalia.



Duh, she's a US Congresswoman, do you think they're going to kill her? I mean if she wasn't in a position of power FROM THE UNITED STATES, and she started going around like she does here, in Somalia... she'd be long dead. I think that point was obvious. As a Congresswoman from the US, she's going to get the red carpet.
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Duh, she's a US Congresswoman, do you think they're going to kill her? I mean if she wasn't in a position of power FROM THE UNITED STATES, and she started going around like she does here, in Somalia... she'd be long dead. I think that point was obvious. As a Congresswoman from the US, she's going to get the red carpet.

You're mixing this up completely.

That is a photograph from just two weeks ago, of some of the female members of Somalia's national legislative body... their equivalent of our U.S. House of Representatives.

There's no direct connection in what I just posted with Ilhan Omar.

You just said that a woman cannot have any education or achieve any political office in Somalia because any woman who tried for that would be "slaughtered."

You are engaging in hyperbole. You are exaggerating. You are being "over the top" with that assertion. I won't say that women in Somalia are on an equal footing with men in terms of their opportunities, but you've taken it too far the other way.

That's why I posted the photograph and the text that accompanied it. It is counterfactual to what you just said about Ilhan Omar's homeland, which is Somalia.

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Originally posted by blackrams:

"The Enemy of our Enemy is our Friend". While most Americans consider Israel our friend anyway, in general, Iran and all of it's proxies consider the West as mortal enemies. If for no other reason, our assistance to Israel is worth the effort to defeat the Enemy that would destroy us also. Some Americans seem to have forgotten that those Israel is fighting would love to see us destroyed.


Do you agree then that this also applies to Ukraine's struggle against invading Russian forces?

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Do you agree then that this also applies to Ukraine's struggle against invading Russian forces?


I do.
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Except for cliffw responding, the sound of crickets is deafening.
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Except for cliffw responding, the sound of crickets is deafening.


What was the question? Do I support Ukraine?
If I say no does that imply I support Russia? Will someone be coming along in a few minutes and call me a NAZI, again?

I support peoples rights to defend themselves. I agree that Israel has been too lenient on these animals for too long and its sad that the Palestinian people are being used as tools in a conflict that should have been ended years perhaps generations ago.
But they have been radicalized and if the videos have not shown this to you then you have not seen the ones I have seen.

The young broken woman in the back of the truck being spit on by the Palestinian people. While the terrorist organization continues to attack from behind them.

**** Palestine as long as they don't stand up and realize what exactly is being done to them
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

What was the question? Do I support Ukraine?
If I say no does that imply I support Russia? Will someone be coming along in a few minutes and call me a NAZI, again?



Why bother responding to my post at all if you don't wish to directly address the question? It's not that complicated. "Yes" or "no" would suffice (as well as "I do" or "I don't").

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Why bother responding to my post at all if you don't wish to directly address the question? It's not that complicated. "Yes" or "no" would suffice (as well as "I do" or "I don't").



There is no simple answer.
But I don't work for you so **** off.
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

There is no simple answer.


If you weren't willing to answer the question that arose from blackrams comments, then I don't know why you bothered to interject.

 
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But I don't work for you so **** off.


Ha! I wouldn't want the Bimbo King working for me.
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For the record, I support both Ukraine and Israel.

I don't like the burden that US support puts on our military readiness and taxpayers, and would prefer that the EU provide more support to Ukraine.

I also abhor the lack of leadership from the current administration, and strongly believe that the only reason that both wars started is due to the feckless nature of the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Joe Biden is compromised by foreign money, he is a traitor to America, and should be tried and if found guilty, executed under military law.

He is the Manchurian Candidate, and a clear and present danger to the citizens of this planet.

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


Joe Biden is compromised by foreign money, he is a traitor to America, and should be tried and if found guilty, executed under military law.

He is the Manchurian Candidate, and a clear and present danger to the citizens of this planet.


first you need proof of who how when and why
and our RWNJ'S have none at all
nor any other foreign money amounts or sources
just BS about joe

BUT THE RUMP

who got 2,000,000,000 in USD from the saudi prince
and who knows how much more from putin and others
and he is a known fraud and scammer
and the RWNJ'S DON'T CARE AT ALL
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The 45th President lives rent free in your mind.

Why do you keep bringing him up?
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first you need proof of who how when and why

You will need to be patient, but not much longer.
The Republicans don't depend on people like Adam Schiff.

 
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who got 2,000,000,000 in USD from the saudi prince

The House has been investigating Kushner for over a year with no results. Does that sound familiar?
The money was for a legitimate investment firm which didn't even exist when Trump was President.

Truth is useless to the left.



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Originally posted by olejoedad:

The 45th President lives rent free in your mind.

Why do you keep bringing him up?


because you keep LYING FOR ORANGE JESUS

WITH YOUR BASELESS bs CHARGES WITH OUT PROOF ABOUT JOE

WHILE ORANGE JESUS IS ON TRIAL NOW FOR REAL CRIMES
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because you keep LYING FOR ORANGE JESUS

WITH YOUR BASELESS bs CHARGES WITH OUT PROOF ABOUT JOE

WHILE ORANGE JESUS IS ON TRIAL NOW FOR REAL CRIMES


Puff puff ... stroke
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Originally posted by williegoat:

The House has been investigating Kushner for over a year with no results. Does that sound familiar?
The money was for a legitimate investment firm which didn't even exist when Trump was President.

Truth is useless to the left.




WHAT legitimate investment WAS THAT ?
KUSHNER IS A SLUM LORD

SHOW WHERE THE MONEY WENT ?
AND THE CUT FOR THE BIG ORANGE GUY ?
10% OR MORE ?

FOLLOW THE MONEY [JUST LIKE NIXON GOT CAUGHT]
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Ha! I wouldn't want the Bimbo King working for me.


Israel and Ukraine are not the same thing.
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Puff puff ... stroke


GOT ANY FACTS

WONDER WHERE THE 2 BILLION WENT AT ALL ?

OR JUST TRUST THE RUMP
AND THE SAUDI MURDERER PRINCE

EVER NOTE THE FRAUDS ?
HE CHEATS AT EVERYTHING AND LIES ABOUT ANYTHING

WHAT DID THE 2 BILLION BUY ???
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WHAT legitimate investment WAS THAT ?
KUSHNER IS A SLUM LORD

SHOW WHERE THE MONEY WENT ?
AND THE CUT FOR THE BIG ORANGE GUY ?
10% OR MORE ?

FOLLOW THE MONEY [JUST LIKE NIXON GOT CAUGHT]

Open the door, and go for a walk. You might need your sunglasses. The truth can hurt.

You might just see Affinity Partners. It is in Miami.

The money was invested in several Israeli high tech companies as well as a German manufacturing company.

You should really learn to do your own research. It can be fun and enlightening. You are in desperate need of enlightenment.
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IS IT ?

Jared Kushner’s Saudi-backed private equity fund clinches first investment in Israel SEPT 23
Affinity Partners, headed by Trump’s son-in-law, to invest $150 million for a 15% stake in Shlomo group’s car and credit business unit

WHERE IS THE 2,85 BILLION THE LAST 2 YEARS ?

a few months ago they spent 150 million that is all I see to date

so where is the rest the 2,850,000,000 usa dollars doing what for whom and why ?
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Travis was abducted by aliens. Betty and Barney had already signed the guest book.
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Travis was abducted by aliens. Betty and Barney had already signed the guest book.


well first means that no other money went before the 150m did in sept 23

and you want to say I am out of line ?

and I can't see any more pouring in to the zionist state while at war with the local arabs

so 5% accounted for

WHERE IS THE 95% NOW
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well first means that no other money went before the 150m did in sept 23

and you want to say I am out of line ?

and I can't see any more pouring in to the zionist state while at war with the local arabs

so 5% accounted for

WHERE IS THE 95% NOW

You really need to learn to do your own research. You are very naive.

You are just wasting everybody's time because it is easier than learning. If you learned, you would have to face the fact that you are wrong. Growth can be painful, but it is worth it.

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