This car belongs to one of our Canadian friends. I love this nose.
This car must have been sold, because I took that picture in Austin Texas last year at the Capitol City Ruckus. I drooled over that front end. And I normally don't like bumper pads. Here's a shot I took of the whole car.
One variation on the coupe nose I thought of was the "drop coupe nose" I don't know if it's possible in 3D but here is my dream of how it would look.
The problem with the fiero nose is that it extends too far from the front tires. Short overhangs are the new design philosophy, so the car looks dated. If someone can design a nose that shortens the overhang a bit it will really help the look. The one I've seen that accomplishes this best in this thread is the Plazma.
Another thing that many fieros suffer from is the dreaded hood gap line between the leading edge of the hood and the nose, as if it is sagging. That's usually a tell-tale sign that the nose has been removed, especially if it's crooked like on that orange car.
i don't know. i brought a modded fiero with a shortened front facia. it looked like one of those pug type dogs with the face smashed in. it was one of the first things i decided to replace.
A crazy idea I had, I sent a few pictures to custom2m4 awhile ago and this is what came out, should actually be a fairly simple swap as well, everything measures out anyway.
The problem with the fiero nose is that it extends too far from the front tires. Short overhangs are the new design philosophy, so the car looks dated. If someone can design a nose that shortens the overhang a bit it will really help the look. The one I've seen that accomplishes this best in this thread is the Plazma.
Another thing that many fieros suffer from is the dreaded hood gap line between the leading edge of the hood and the nose, as if it is sagging. That's usually a tell-tale sign that the nose has been removed, especially if it's crooked like on that orange car.
There are a lot of really cool noses and ideas here.
My hope in starting this thread was to spark some creativity amongst current members and at the same time provide a resource for new members to see what has been or can be done to our cars.
The problem with the fiero nose is that it extends too far from the front tires.
Thats one of the things I dont like as well. But it can be fixed, its going to take a lot of work but it can be done. Anyone know what the rules are about where the bumper has to be in relationship to the ground and to the other parts of the car? Can it be flush with the leading edge of the hood or does it have to stick out?
its just a trait of midengine cars, no need to put space between the cabin and the wheels, no engine to accomidate.
Like it or not mid-rear engine cars “Needs” a long nose! Due to the fact of these cars’s engine setup (nature) weights more on the back. The front nose is almost one of the only ways to create front Down Force. Again it has to do with aerodynamics and keeping your car as glue to the road at high speeds as much as possible without adding front weight.
A good designed front long nose can make your car’s down force at the front increase more and more with increments of speed (the faster you go and the more glue you’ll be to the road!) Ferraris holds the mighty record for this, due to their large research wind labs, and smart engineers/designers (Pininfarina, e.i the Enzo Ferrari).
I would LOVE to see the 4th-gen Firebird nose adapted to the Fiero. I've even thought of doing it myself. If only I could find a good used F'bird nose at a reasonable price.
Originally posted by THE BEAST: Like it or not mid-rear engine cars “Needs” a long nose! Due to the fact of these cars’s engine setup (nature) weights more on the back. The front nose is almost one of the only ways to create front Down Force. Again it has to do with aerodynamics and keeping your car as glue to the road at high speeds as much as possible without adding front weight.
I have to disagree with that a little.. I think the size doesnt matter, but the shape does....(thats what I tell all of my girlfriends lol ) but like you also said its about aerodynamics. The long GT nose actually doesnt apply much downforce at higher speeds...neither did my short nose buildup untill I added the windsplitter. Feels this front sticks better to the road than the original setup. Getting the air out of the high pressure areas behind the nose is maybe even more important..a hoodvent will work great with most setups
My goal was to archieve a more "midengined" overall look...a long front bonnet may suggest theres enough room for an engine. Simply said I tried to give the back more body, and the front less body...
Like it or not mid-rear engine cars “Needs” a long nose! Due to the fact of these cars’s engine setup (nature) weights more on the back. The front nose is almost one of the only ways to create front Down Force. Again it has to do with aerodynamics and keeping your car as glue to the road at high speeds as much as possible without adding front weight.
Just don't tell Orville that whatever you do. Both his 3800SC choptop and his LS1 choptop have a cab forward design with a short nose and it doesn't affect handling or downforce at all. Orville is a smart cookie with over 30 years of experience designing his toys. This is a design that has worked well for him and still is. He is working on his latest creation now.
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I have to disagree with that a little.. I think the size doesnt matter, but the shape does....(thats what I tell all of my girlfriends lol ) but like you also said its about aerodynamics. The long GT nose actually doesnt apply much downforce at higher speeds...neither did my short nose buildup untill I added the windsplitter. Feels this front sticks better to the road than the original setup. Getting the air out of the high pressure areas behind the nose is maybe even more important..a hoodvent will work great with most setups
My goal was to archieve a more "midengined" overall look...a long front bonnet may suggest theres enough room for an engine. Simply said I tried to give the back more body, and the front less body...
Oh yeah, then HOW come Ferrari, Porsche did such LONG noses on their cars?
You have acomplished what you where looking for (a more forward look on your car) yes, I don't take that away from you. But here I was talking about "Down Force" and not looks, you are leaving Behind the most Important part of this physics (aerodynamics). And if anything was ever important to physics (aerodynamics) is the "Surface Area", Think of it as the leaver to move a heavy body, the bigger your lever the easier to lift, move etc or think of it as a WING. Take a close look to the old vs new Porsche 911 (which one has a bigger nose?), and the F1 cars. About the back pressure (vacuum) behind the front is redundant, and over understood when I talk about aerodynamics, but size is definitely not out of the Aerodynamics picture.
Originally posted by THE BEAST: Like it or not mid-rear engine cars “Needs” a long nose! Due to the fact of these cars’s engine setup (nature) weights more on the back. The front nose is almost one of the only ways to create front Down Force. Again it has to do with aerodynamics and keeping your car as glue to the road at high speeds as much as possible without adding front weight.
A good designed front long nose can make your car’s down force at the front increase more and more with increments of speed (the faster you go and the more glue you’ll be to the road!) Ferraris holds the mighty record for this, due to their large research wind labs, and smart engineers/designers (Pininfarina, e.i the Enzo Ferrari).
If you look at the Ubercars, the nose isn't the main issue. The cabin is close to the front wheels, shifting the weight forward. The noses taper abruptly from the wheels. The difference between the Enzo and the F430 is extremely noticable. Please also notice the difference between the last two pics.
there are a handful of noses that are acceptable, most of the ideas are trying to make it look like something else instead of a FIERO.
I guess I just dont understand.
If that is the case You could say that about every nose that is not original.
Car customization is about tweeking the car to your own personal tastes. For those that like a stock fiero, fine keep your car stock. Absolutely nothing wrong with it, the fiero is sharp as is.
For those who want to tweek, fine for them as they want something a little off the beaten path.
Just because someone changes the nose doesn't mean they think they have or could fool anyone into thinking they have a ferrari or lamborghini. If they do then they are sadly, sadly mistaken.
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Ok, so tell us about this one... I'm going to take a wild guess and say you took a GT wing, turned it upside-down, and did some fiberglass work... but it looks good minus the middle of it.
I'm very interested in something like this for my 88.
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