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My 88 Fiero GT 14k miles by BV MotorSports
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I'll take it if you deliver.

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lol I am loading it up and on my way.
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... That motor is gonna freakin' wail and scream like a banshee and you are gonna crap your pants when you stab that long skinny pedal....

Pete


Having returned to this thread after many months away. Sadly, you were very prophetic.

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Cold start clip:

http://youtu.be/HL_AC0m-xK4



That sounds great. I hope you get it back to that.
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That sounds great. I hope you get it back to that.


When Scott (DarkHorizon) and I were tuning the car, it was a beast. When I replaced the motor after it spun a bearing it was hands down the fastest car I have ever been in. I am hoping its just trans or clutch related. TBH I am still not ready to deal with it. This whole car thing has turned into a chore and not a hobby.

I have to finish Garths 85 before starting on mine. Maybe January....
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Report this Post12-22-2013 11:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BV MotorSportsClick Here to Email BV MotorSportsSend a Private Message to BV MotorSportsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Just a quick update, I started pulling the 88 apart. I am also going to powdercoat a bunch of stuff and ceramic coat my headers, ypipe and downpipe.


p.s. *fingers crossed* its just a clutch issue. I could use some good luck!

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Classic good news, bad news situation with the turbo '88. Good news, my engine is not damaged. Bad news is, every single flywheel bolt backed out and egg-shaped the bolt holes. So I need an entire clutch kit. Not cheap for a L67/F23 swap Fiero. Moral if the story, GM cam bolts (ARP) are a big fail in my opinion. Use GM fw bolts.

I need to know the EXACT clutch kit and FW bolts needed for this swap. I am going to call SPEC and get their 3+ for it.

All the suspension bits are getting powder coated and new poly bushings fitted. I am also going to brace the U shape trailing arm (idea from the classic 3rd gen f-body mod). Even at 14k miles, my bushings are shot.



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Are you using the Spec aluminum flywheel?

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I have a modded 3800 fw afaik. Could even be an 88 v6 fw for all I know.
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I have a modded 3800 fw afaik. Could even be an 88 v6 fw for all I know.


Those ones are probably too long then.

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I have a modded 3800 fw afaik. Could even be an 88 v6 fw for all I know.


From the picture you posted on page 41, you have a modified 3800 flywheel.

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Hey, I know I am wishing here, but is the parts and the car that you were talking about last month on here gone or do you still have it? I am in Fort Walton and could drop on bye.
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I still have a bunch of crap, I'd love for someone to come with a truck and haul them away. And the car is here.... p&p wouldnt take it with a bill of sale and signed title. Van Horns is suppose to come get it on the 2nd. So its here till then,

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From the picture you posted on page 41, you have a modified 3800 flywheel.



Trying to decide on the 88v6 clutch with the extra performance PP or the cavi clutch... big difference in price.
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Trying to decide on the 88v6 clutch with the extra performance PP or the cavi clutch... big difference in price.


What happened to your current pressure plate?
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That's odd that the APR bolts backed out, I used them on my 3800/F23 swap and didn't have a single problem with them.
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What happened to your current pressure plate?


Its the one Dean took a grinder to in a pathetic attempt to make it fit. Its a SPEC 3+ for an 88v6 with the regular "saw blade" pressure plate.

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Its the one Dean took a grinder to in a pathetic attempt to make it fit. Its a SPEC 3+ for an 88v6 with the regular "saw blade" pressure plate.


Im sure he rebalanced it.
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Im sure he rebalanced it.


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Just found the source I what I thought was a valvetrain noise. I was poking around the engine trying to figure out where I was going to mount the MAP sensor for my new electronic boost gauge when I just happened to spin the water pump. I got a distinct "tick" like a gear wrench makes. I popped off the water pump and spun it, no noise. Set it back on the housing, ticks. It appears the tips of the blades are making contact with the timing chain cover. Looks like I need to take a dremel to the tips ever so slightly.

AWESOME... lmao.
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Got most of my parts back from the powdercoater today. I also had the headers, y-pipe & downpipe ceramic coated in "turbo black" ceramic. I'll get some pics up tomorrow. Also, I now have a set of stock 2.8 ported & ceramic coated manifolds I'll be selling. Perfect, no cracks, no thread damage etc. I would like to start offering powdercoasted Fiero parts on an exchange basis.

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Clutch has shipped, flywheel bolts have shipped. I believe we have about 90% of the parts finished at the powder coating shop. Funny how I always end up getting put to work on my own parts. lol I am getting pretty good at stripping... take what you will from that.

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Too bad you didn't just do this yourself from the start. This build could be 30 pages shorter.

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I beat myself up over that more than you know buddy. More than you know...
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And I bet the build would be amazing!!! love the way it is turning out Steve. Keep at it!
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Heading over to Rob's shop tomorrow to finish up the powder coating. Now if I can get may lazy ass in the garage and wire in the new gauges. Oh yeah!!! I found a local guy doing hydro-dippng. I am gonna go broke.. lol
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Engine is in, just got to button it all up.



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Got a lot done on the car. I just need fluids, mount the turbo, instal the suspension and put in the gauges. ..... I need to whip out my FSM and find out which wire on the C500 is for the TEMP warning light on the dash. I am going to use that to tell me if my w2a system is low on coolant. The reservoir I am using has a 2 wire level sensor.
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bet you cant wait to fire it up and take it for a ride

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Got it 99% back together. Just adding fluids and bleeding the clutch. Hmmm clutch isnt feeling "right". I look under the car and there is brake fluid leaking out of the bellhousing. Yep, HTOB is leaking. WTF? This car is cursed.

Clutch discussion:
//www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/131391.html

So now what? The previous clutch worked just fine. The original HTOB worked just fine. I add a new 3+ clutch, SCS883F, posted above, I get the HTOB spacer that is suggested for the clutch kit, put it all together and it leaks. I am at a loss. Do I rip it all back apart and put the original HTOB in and try bleeding it before putting the engine back in the car? If it leaks, then what? I am this close to putting a 4T65HD in it and call it a day.

MotherF&*()^&%^ car!

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Are you 100% sure the fluid is coming from inside the bell housing?

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Are you 100% sure the fluid is coming from inside the bell housing?



Yes, its coming out of the square notch at the bottom of the trans by the flywheel. :/ I am going to try to check the HTOB tomorrow before I start to rip it apart.
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After having the F23 swapped into my car, it started leaking from the same area within a week.

Turns out the bell housing side of the tranny case had a crack in it. Had that side replaced and all is well now. Hope you get it fixed soon!
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Drip drip...

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On my first use of a HTOB back in 2005, I over extended it right when I pressed the pedal. From that day on I never install a HTOB transmission w/o confirming the range of motion of the HTOB and the current placement of the clutch fingers. This will let you know pretty quick if there is an issue or not. Also, as soon as the cradle is in the chassis, the very first connection is the HTOB. Then I test cycle the clutch about 10 times just to verify everything. Only after the HTOB checks out, do I finish hooking up everything else.

There is a lot of variation is clutch disk thickness and pressure plate design both of which change the finger position at rest - even among the same MFG.

Once you get everything worked out and issue free, you will never want to go back to the Fiero slave cylinder. The HTOB's are quite nice.
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Once you get everything worked out and issue free, you will never want to go back to the Fiero slave cylinder. The HTOB's are quite nice.


As the owner of a later Getrag with the HTOB, I'll second this opinion.
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It worked great with the old setup. I didn't use a HTOB spacer with the "incorrect" getrag clutch. Though I was told I would need a spacer with the new clutch I installed. I need to call SPEC and see if there is a hieght difference between the 2 pressure plates. Maybe I just got a faulty HTOB right out of the box? Who knows....
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You replaced a know good HTOB with a bad one?

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