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Pontiackid86's 84 DGP IMSA Stage III build thread. by pontiackid86
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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:

If its not running by the end of the month im going to come out and take it! (im ahella lot closer now)


I'll beat you to it.
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Awesome! The lack of garbage is refreshing, let's see more of the same as you get to it. Take your time, there is no rush. Everyone loves pics, show me more when you can.
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I like the 4.9 caddy idea. History is understandable but as stated, the funding is non-existant. I would, while your enjoying the car now, drop whatever engine you can afford and begin to acquire what you need for the SD4. Obtain another Fiero. Once your ready, swap the 4.9 into the new fiero, and the SD4 into the IMSA. I like this idea, and would make this thread very interesting = a dual swap. Someone posted (i think on page 5) that this car needs some rumble under the hood. You'll, no doubt, get that rumble with the 4.9. Or just drop a v12 in it and be done with it. THAT would be MY coffin.
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I like the 4.9 caddy idea. History is understandable but as stated, the funding is non-existant. I would, while your enjoying the car now, drop whatever engine you can afford and begin to acquire what you need for the SD4. Obtain another Fiero. Once your ready, swap the 4.9 into the new fiero, and the SD4 into the IMSA. I like this idea, and would make this thread very interesting = a dual swap. Someone posted (i think on page 5) that this car needs some rumble under the hood. You'll, no doubt, get that rumble with the 4.9. Or just drop a v12 in it and be done with it. THAT would be MY coffin.

The only thing i have aganst the V8 is the fact that the cars history was that it was a 4 cylinder this isant an every day see fiero so i have to be careful what i change about it.. its not out of the cards but i got some thinkin to do.
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History is wrong. This car should have had a v8 to begin with.
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PICS! PICS! PICS!

With that nice day yesterday, I know you got more done than a decklid! Let's see the progress!
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PICS! PICS! PICS!

With that nice day yesterday, I know you got more done than a decklid! Let's see the progress!



Lol that decklid was a PITA to get the wing on perfectley. I'll post them up after i visit my dad in the hospital

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As promised heres the pics of the 84 decklid back onto the IMSA

Thanks to foxgapfiero (decklid) and pete2m4(decklid vent delete's) I was able to get the decklid that rightfuly came with the car back on it.

Please esxuce the INDY fiero on the decklid... me and foxgapfiero couldent even figure it out






Now it's off to mount the scoop and fill in the left over holes.

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History is wrong. This car should have had a v8 to begin with.

True but with the following of this car its suposed to have the SD-4 in it but i dont want to shovle out $10K at this point for it.. i still got sdome thinkin to do engine wise.
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I played around with the IMSA a lil more today and got the Over-The_roof scoop mounted.. still need to drill holes for the bacvk mount but you get the point Also filled in the holes on the decklid.. still need to sand them down though





And some glammor shots

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I vote for LS4 with 3.65 4-speed. I think you could actually do that swap and it would cost less then getting and building a SD4 (not sure though).

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I might have missed it, what spoiler is that?
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I might have missed it, what spoiler is that?



Its the IMSA wrap around spoiler from DGP. You cannot get it from DGP anymore but the fiero whearhouse sells them. He took over the IRM IMSA molds which came from DGP so your essentaly getting the same thing. Just made by a diffrent companmy.
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Not much going on with the IMSA lateley.. been under a lot with recent events. i plan on making a trip to the yard nsoon to get all my wiring that i have to replace.
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does that roof scoop have to be removed to open the decklid, or does it clear the roof as it sits?
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does that roof scoop have to be removed to open the decklid, or does it clear the roof as it sits?


They're hinged on the rear and partially separate from the decklid as it's lifted.
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does that roof scoop have to be removed to open the decklid, or does it clear the roof as it sits?

Exactley as he stated above. It is hinged so that you pretty much unlach a small latch in the front and normaly there is a setup with a hydrolic cylinder that lift's the thing up so you can put up the decklid. that system took a dump on the PO a while ago so im going to try and recreate it. I just need to find a small enough cylinder that can support the scoops weight.

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very good. I like the way those scoops look and may want to get one for mine. shouldn't be too hard to find a small cylinder, just keep an eye on different hood setups next time you're at a junkyard.
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very good. I like the way those scoops look and may want to get one for mine. shouldn't be too hard to find a small cylinder, just keep an eye on different hood setups next time you're at a junkyard.



Thats what i'v been looking out for. i'm trying to find a small strut that holds up the hood on the firebird... 1 They hold up a really heavy hood and this thing will be no strain on it and 2 there kinda easy to find around here. If you get a scoop let me know.. If I have sucessfuly made a strut system for it i'll make you one as well.

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sounds like a plan. any ideas on where I would even begin to look for one?
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sounds like a plan. any ideas on where I would even begin to look for one?
Fiero wharehouse makes them and im pretty sure archie makes them to. I would go for the fiero wharehouse one.. its made off original DGP molds.

Edit to add. Its the indy pace car scoop on this list

http://www.ovis.net/~dmkfiero/

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cool, thank you.
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cool, thank you.

No problem. i never really liked the scoop but seeing it in person and owning one... it has grown on me. My "ricer friends" said it looked ricey... but they have taste all in there mouths.
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I never pay attention to friends opinions, they haven't a clue about anything anyway. I like the roof scoop for the possibility of it being a component for a rear mounted intercooler. Using that in conjunction with the 84 decklid center vent that would have an intercooler core mounted underneath. All this of course depends on the amount of clearance between the bottom of decklid and the engine itself. Then again, maybe the intercooler core could be integrated within the decklid itself, which would of course require some sort of bulge or hump in the decklid and also trimming down the bottom of the scoop to compensate the additional height of the decklid....ok, done rambling...sorry!
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I never pay attention to friends opinions, they haven't a clue about anything anyway. I like the roof scoop for the possibility of it being a component for a rear mounted intercooler. Using that in conjunction with the 84 decklid center vent that would have an intercooler core mounted underneath. All this of course depends on the amount of clearance between the bottom of decklid and the engine itself. Then again, maybe the intercooler core could be integrated within the decklid itself, which would of course require some sort of bulge or hump in the decklid and also trimming down the bottom of the scoop to compensate the additional height of the decklid....ok, done rambling...sorry!


Lol my friends are morons.. They dont appritate a car with history.. they all said i should turn it into a "race car" but thats not really what im trying to do with it.

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Dident do anything on the IMSA but i finlay got my own set of pages out of the june 1985 car and driver magizene with the artical on the PPG pace car and the dole IMSA racer



I also got this for IMSA GT (Adam) for all the help he has givin me.

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Well aside from scoring a perfect set of dew wipes for my IMSA today thanks to bruce i was able to get a replacement wiring harness for it as well. for the time being im dropping another duke into the car so i can move it and drive it whilke building up for an ecotec swap on a sepret cradle.

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Oh and don't forget snagging Escort parts for my kid and the other work done yesterday. Good day at the yard and visible proof of having to check your resistor and fan cage ocassionly with an otherwise nice relatively lo-mile Fiero winding up in a yard due to a dashboard fire.Nice day junkyarding. Oh and since that was an SE, it has to have the M18 Muncie 4.10. To find a MY8 3.32 ratio you'll need the econo model which should also have the 13' inch steel wheels and most have gone to the crusher long ago.See you later. Bruce .
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Oh and don't forget snagging Escort parts for my kid and the other work done yesterday. Good day at the yard and visible proof of having to check your resistor and fan cage ocassionly with an otherwise nice relatively lo-mile Fiero winding up in a yard due to a dashboard fire.Nice day junkyarding. Oh and since that was an SE, it has to have the M18 Muncie 4.10. To find a MY8 3.32 ratio you'll need the econo model which should also have the 13' inch steel wheels and most have gone to the crusher long ago.See you later. Bruce .

AWWWW on the transmission.... none the less its still a good 4 speed and i know i need one.... It comes down to that one or one out of an 85 Gt in new ringold... i know the V6 has a stronger case. Thanks for tsaking me there bruce.

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I won't say it cant be done but the 4 speed from the V6 is the M17 with the 3.65 ratio. Great trans with good gearing for the V6. I don't think it will match up with the Duke.
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the 4 speed from the v-6 will work but will be a real dog. You need the 4:10 to get the duke going. Or you can buy the duke and 5 speed from me. That would work SO much better.
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I found an engine... a junk yard i go to has a running driving 1984 fiero in there yard with as good semi low miles duke and trans. My plan is to bring it home and put it in so i can just drive the thing (my neighborhood has rules about non running cars) so for $150 i might have it running... not fast yet but running.
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Hey rick, I wonder how much that IMSA body kit adds to the weight, it would be cool if you could weigh the IMSA and see what comes up.
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Hey rick, I wonder how much that IMSA body kit adds to the weight, it would be cool if you could weigh the IMSA and see what comes up.


Theres a plate near here. maby i can take it there and see what it comes up as. It might actuley be lighter as its made out of a semi thin fiberglass and not that heavy plastic that most of the body parts are made out of.
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Hey rick, I wonder how much that IMSA body kit adds to the weight, it would be cool if you could weigh the IMSA and see what comes up.


If I remember correctly, my IMSA kit was only like 185lbs. That is the entire kit, front and rear bumper, quarter panels, fenders, rocker panels, sill plates, and wing. It is all about 1/4 thick fiberglass also.
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If I remember correctly, my IMSA kit was only like 185lbs. That is the entire kit, front and rear bumper, quarter panels, fenders, rocker panels, sill plates, and wing. It is all about 1/4 thick fiberglass also.


I do have to admit though that wrap around spoiler is one heavy SOB though.

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I'm going up to the yard tomorrow to see this engine they speek of.. if it runs ok and is in good shape the IMSA could be moving very soon.
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Well after A VERY agervating day at the junk yard (the motor that they had for me (soposedley running) i got up there and found it was seized up So the chances of it being at littiz are slim.....


But the IMSA for the first time in nearley a decade is finaly showing signs of life hooked up the harnses today and put the fusable links togeter and hooked up a battery ... ladys and gents its waking up slowley but sureley


Everything works minus the start of an engine which will be corrected soon,
BTW the decklid was poped on the 87 for a little reffrence its not broken.




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lookin good Rick!!

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Keep it up Rick I am watching this build and I am sure you will get her going like she is suposed to be. I like how you are changing panels like the decklid to make her what she was. a plus is headnig your way by me for a job well done. Keep it up

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