Have you mentioned what's going in to replace the Duke? If so I didn't catch it and you should enlighten me
84 decklid is in the works
As for the engine.. i'v been researching the 4.9. From what i have read its not going to be an easy task with the 1984 harness but i think i can tackel it.
Don't know why you people pick on PK, he's a great guy. He's coming up about once a week to help me with my first fastback swap. I really have never liked the GT because IMHO I think it looks to 'fat' I guess. Not that I'd kick one out of bed, so to speak, but I've only ever had notchbacks. The rest of the summer I'll being doing 'my GT' the one that Pontiac never made. Probably won't get it painted until spring but we'll see.
Fastback clip to be removed from my 80k V6 automatic wreck that I paid $50 for. The engine will come out after the clip is transferred to my $600 180K 4cyl automatic. . Hood off, young friend PontiacKid with my car. http://myfiero.com/uploads/23271_.jpg
This is the color it’ll be by next spring. The wheels will be either chromed plated or powder coated chrome and the interior will be a cool dark blue with everything out of a Cavalier SW. Don't worry, it'll look great and totally different. Everything will be done for less than $1K dollars plus the cost of the paint job. When I'm done it'll only be badged as a Pegasus and not Pontiac or Fiero, so people can guess what it is. http://myfiero.com/uploads/23275_.jpg
Now Rick offered to help for free, but I'm giving him a 96k running 87 GOLD SE with about everything needed to refurbish it for his efforts in assisting me. Thanks again for the help PK.
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"Let a man drive a Fiero and he'll own one. Teach a man to fix a Fiero and he'll own eight....errr...nine."
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As for the engine.. i'v been researching the 4.9. From what i have read its not going to be an easy task with the 1984 harness but i think i can tackel it.
The '84 harness isn't as scary as people talk about, you'll be fine. The 3800 swap I did on my '84 used the original harness, wasn't altogether that bad. Just matching wires to other wires at the end of the day
hey if your lookin for a 84 decklid and the delete panels gibsons auto wrecking in neenah wisconsin has a few sets of them
I just recentley picked up everything i need in the decklid department so i dont think i'll be needing it but ill keep that in mind if i screw up this decklid.. Thanks jet.
I just got a PM from someone on here.. What do you all think of a 3.4 DOHC swap into the IMSA?
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Originally posted by pontiackid86:
Well on the date of 8/5//2010 I bought The_stickman2's 84 DGP IMSA. im very proud to own this car and i have no intention of changing anything about it except reparing and restoring what is needed on it.
RIck, I know you plan on putting an SD in it someday. But....your second quote is a complete 180 from your first quote. While I think a 3.4 DOHC swap is a great idea in a regular, run of the mill Fiero, the one you have has a bit of history behind it, as I understand it. If it were my car, as much as I'd be tempted to put a 4.9 or similar swap into it, I think I'd probably put a decent Duke into it, until I was ready to put the SD engine back into it. You're going to have to hack up the wiring for any swap you do....why not just do it once, instead of twice, once when you put in whatever you decide, and then again when you put in the SD? Plus, your costs putting a Duke into it are going to be a lot less than if you put something else into it....that's more money in your pocket toward that SD engine.
Just my opinion....remember, you asked what we thought....
RIck, I know you plan on putting an SD in it someday. But....your second quote is a complete 180 from your first quote. While I think a 3.4 DOHC swap is a great idea in a regular, run of the mill Fiero, the one you have has a bit of history behind it, as I understand it. If it were my car, as much as I'd be tempted to put a 4.9 or similar swap into it, I think I'd probably put a decent Duke into it, until I was ready to put the SD engine back into it. You're going to have to hack up the wiring for any swap you do....why not just do it once, instead of twice, once when you put in whatever you decide, and then again when you put in the SD? Plus, your costs putting a Duke into it are going to be a lot less than if you put something else into it....that's more money in your pocket toward that SD engine.
Just my opinion....remember, you asked what we thought....
I'v been toying around with this to.. Eventualy it will have another SD4 in it. i got some thinking to do because even if i do do a 4.9 or a 3.4 i can always go and get a sepred harness and OBD system and hold onto the original one. i dont intend to deflower the cars history it just for the years that i'll have it before ill have the money to put in another SD4 I want to have an engine in it that will complement the cars beauty. its like I said I have some thinking to do. I dont think i'll have to hack into the exsisting harness if i do it all by the book. its not like im doing a 3800SC swap or anything like that where theres almost no going back to its roots. but i'll figure it out.
One more question though. Isant the SD4 carbureted?
I may just end up duking it again i know where i can get a duke on the cradle running and driving pretty cheap.
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Unless you're doing a museum style repro of a Super Duty car I wouldn't waste my time or money on the project.You' d wind up with, after spending a ton of money, a fragile engine with minimal torque. To do justice to a car that looks as good as that and do it efficiently and relatively inexpensively, I would just do a 3800SC swap. More power than you'll ever get from an Duke SD and it won't blow up. Read any past archive attempt at a power build and all you find is failure. Race engines only have to last until the end of the race remember and be worn out when their done. New engine for next race and you're ready to go. Not what you want for the street. I'm sure if you gave the people who raced these in the '80's a choice, that's what they would have done, although the 3600SC would have been tweaked for another 200hp..
------------------ Notchbacks RULE
"Let a man drive a Fiero and he'll own one. Teach a man to fix a Fiero and he'll own eight....errr...nine."
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Unless you're doing a museum style repro of a Super Duty car I wouldn't waste my time or money on the project.You' d wind up with, after spending a ton of money, a fragile engine with minimal torque. To do justice to a car that looks as good as that and do it efficiently and relatively inexpensively, I would just do a 3800SC swap. More power than you'll ever get from an Duke SD and it won't blow up. Read any past archive attempt at a power build and all you find is failure. Race engines only have to last until the end of the race remember and be worn out when their done. New engine for next race and you're ready to go. Not what you want for the street. I'm sure if you gave the people who raced these in the '80's a choice, that's what they would have done, although the 3600SC would have been tweaked for another 200hp..
PK,
I am with Bruiser on this one, and I believe you have the same feelings. The way that car looks screams for 3800SC or even a 4.9. A car that looks like that needs to have something that rumbles underneath the decklid.
With the history behind the car, being a promotional vehicle for the Dole Super Duty, I would eventually have an SD back in the car. But, by all means, rock whatever you want in the car until the time comes that you are ready to do that. I'm looking forward to seeing this car in person.
Northstar! Northstar! Northstar! Better rob a few more banks. Anyway I agree with the previous statements. Put whatever engine you want in it, but make sure you can return it to stock for an SD4 sometime in the future.
Unless you're doing a museum style repro of a Super Duty car I wouldn't waste my time or money on the project.You' d wind up with, after spending a ton of money, a fragile engine with minimal torque. To do justice to a car that looks as good as that and do it efficiently and relatively inexpensively, I would just do a 3800SC swap. More power than you'll ever get from an Duke SD and it won't blow up. Read any past archive attempt at a power build and all you find is failure. Race engines only have to last until the end of the race remember and be worn out when their done. New engine for next race and you're ready to go. Not what you want for the street. I'm sure if you gave the people who raced these in the '80's a choice, that's what they would have done, although the 3600SC would have been tweaked for another 200hp..
Thats the other thing i was thinking. in looking into the SD4 its not a motor that is really a reliable motor. Its a race motor. basicley ment to be taken appart after each race and spruced up again for the next one.. i want somthing with power and reliability.
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