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The narrative that the Capitol protest was a “deadly insurrection” is falling apart by 2.5
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Originally posted by williegoat:

So, Trump was impeached for causing something that didn't happen.




Whereupon he was duly acquitted by the Senate......


.....because it didn't happen.



Leftists exist in their own bizarre alternate world of childlike make-believe and wishful thinking.

Case in point:

 
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The "narrative" is not dead.

Rick and others here may think that the "narrative" should be dead, but in reality,

it isn't dead.

Not yet.

And it won't breathe its dying breath anytime soon.




It isn't dead INSIDE HIS HEAD and it likely never will be and that is because, like all Leftists, he is unable to discriminate facts from his own or other's opinions and fantasies.

He even compulsively repeats "it isn't dead" several times in different ways as an affirmation to himself .

He desperately wants it to be true and in order to make it that way for himself he must reject all objective data that is counter to his make-believe, so for now his wishful thinking is that "Nancy" and her committee will somehow make it so for him.

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Actually footage of the trespassing:
https://www.instagram.com/p...utm_medium=copy_link
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The video shows people just walking around taking pictures like it is a museum.
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The video shows people just walking around taking pictures like it is a museum.


You mean they aren't actually "insurrecting"?

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You mean they aren't actually "insurrecting"?



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As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION or sedition or even homicide as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 570 individuals], (<1.9 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 35 individuals, (6.1 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 4 individuals, (0.7 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 23 individuals, (4.0 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 23 individuals, (<0.07 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.

As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.

As of today the Leftist Congress is trying to soak the American taxpayers for HALF A BILLION DOLLARS in "damages" after telling the DOJ and the federal courts that the capitol building sustained $1.5 million in damages.

As of today 6 Capitol police officers are facing disciplinary action for their actions related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

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Rinselberg, there is the list, answer it, line by line. Seems simple for someone who has such a strong commitment to the topic.
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The "list" may impress others as worthy of their time and attention. It doesn't say much (if anything) about how the riot got started. How much of it was something that just happened on the spur of the moment--a crime of "passion"--and how much of it was planned and premeditated. That's what I am looking for as the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (the formal designation) continues its efforts.

Again, I recommend looking at this article. I think Rick (among others) would be surprised at how much of it they (or he) would actually agree with.

"Evaluating the Police Shooting of Ashli Babbitt"
Geoffrey Alpert, Jeff Noble and Seth Stoughton for "Lawfare"; September 9, 2021.
https://www.lawfareblog.com...ooting-ashli-babbitt

Read-o-Meter: 20 minutes.

The last two paragraphs:
 
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In this post, we attempted to bring a balanced perspective to the shooting, applying the now-familiar constitutional standard that regulates the use of deadly force. The limited public information that exists raises serious questions about the propriety of Byrd’s decision to shoot, especially with regard to the assessment that Babbitt was an imminent threat. To belabor the obvious, though, we cannot definitively analyze a situation without the relevant facts, and there is a frustrating shortage of facts. But there are enough facts to conclude that even if Byrd violated Babbitt’s Fourth Amendment rights, it is highly unlikely that he could be ethically charged with, let alone convicted of, a crime.

Those conclusions, tentative as they are, assume that courts will apply the legal rules that usually apply to police shootings. Given the unique context present here, though, we would not be surprised if that turned out not to be the case.

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

The "list" may impress others as worthy of their time and attention. It doesn't say much (if anything) about how the riot got started. How much of it was something that just happened on the spur of the moment--a crime of "passion"--and how much of it was planned and premeditated. That's what I am looking for as the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (the formal designation) continues its efforts.

Again, I recommend looking at this article. I think Rick (among others) would be surprised at how much of it they (or he) would actually agree with.

"Evaluating the Police Shooting of Ashli Babbitt"
Geoffrey Alpert, Jeff Noble, Seth Stoughton for "Lawfare"; September 9, 2021.
https://www.lawfareblog.com...ooting-ashli-babbitt

Read-o-Meter: 20 minutes.

The last two paragraphs:


Listening to the "House Select Committee" or reading your linked article are about as productive as watching another episode of "Gilligan's Island". We all know how it turns out.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

The "list" may impress others as worthy of their time and attention. It doesn't say much (if anything) about how the riot got started.

Rinselberg, you are aware that the Government cleared Trump of any involvement in the trespassing aren't you? This is a starting point. Obviously because Trump is the target of an ENORMOUS amount of hate from democrats LIKE THE ONES THAT MAKE UP THE COMMITTEE.
 
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How much of it was something that just happened on the spur of the moment--a crime of "passion"--and how much of it was planned and premeditated. That's what I am looking for as the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (the formal designation) continues its efforts.


Their ONLY efforts are to link Trump to it. They can't, so it drags on.

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Again, I recommend looking at this



https://www.instagram.com/p...m_medium=share_sheet

I don't think video like this even exists for biden. I remember him doing "rallies" in empty car parking lots. LOL

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Sorry, I was wrong. I did find a mass-populous in unison over biden:
https://www.instagram.com/p...utm_medium=copy_link
Another
https://www.instagram.com/p...utm_medium=copy_link
Apparently it a thing now I'm getting tickets

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Now that the mean "tweets" guy is out and adults are in, this is how adults are supposed to run a Country.......?
https://www.instagram.com/p...utm_medium=copy_link
Notice how he does the SAME EXACT thing as Obama, blame to other guy.
https://www.instagram.com/p...utm_medium=copy_link
Are adults supposed to lie like this?

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Sorry, I was wrong. I did find a mass-populous in unison over biden:
https://www.instagram.com/p...utm_medium=copy_link




JP really has a handle on imitating delusional Leftists.
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JP really has a handle on imitating delusional Leftists.


I LOVE this dude. He is a great comedian
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That's what I am looking for as the House Select Committee to Investigate the



Not exactly what the "committee" is asking, but more in line of what they should be asking. After all they do represent Americans.......right?

https://www.instagram.com/p...utm_medium=copy_link
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As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION or sedition or even homicide as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 570 individuals], (<1.9 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 35 individuals, (6.1 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 4 individuals, (0.7 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 23 individuals, (4.0 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 23 individuals, (<0.07 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.

As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.

As of today the Leftist Congress is trying to soak the American taxpayers for HALF A BILLION DOLLARS in "damages" after telling the DOJ and the federal courts that the capitol building sustained $1.5 million in damages.

As of today 6 Capitol police officers are facing disciplinary action for their actions related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC


Rinselberg, do you dispute any claims on this list? As long as we can agree to answer questions and not avoid or ignore them, than civil communication and advancement of thought can proceed. If people just toss questions about like a water hose and nobody actually answers, then all you have is a wet shirt for your troubles. Why does anyone participate in threads to just stir up animosity?
I hate politics as much as the next guy, but like sewage, we have to deal with it to keep life civilized.
I have no problem viewing your posts as long as the flow of opinions and debate goes both directions. We don't have to agree, but we should at least agree to be honest and answer questions or say why you wouldn't answer. Then we can move on.
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Rinselberg, do you dispute any claims on this list? As long as we can agree to answer questions and not avoid or ignore them, than civil communication and advancement of thought can proceed. If people just toss questions about like a water hose and nobody actually answers, then all you have is a wet shirt for your troubles. Why does anyone participate in threads to just stir up animosity?
I hate politics as much as the next guy, but like sewage, we have to deal with it to keep life civilized.
I have no problem viewing your posts as long as the flow of opinions and debate goes both directions. We don't have to agree, but we should at least agree to be honest and answer questions or say why you wouldn't answer. Then we can move on.




You're asking a delusional Leftist to deal with those objective numeric FACTS in the "Breaking News" list.

You're asking a delusional Leftist to deal with REALITY instead of HOW HE WANTS THE NARRATIVE TO BE.

You're asking a delusional Leftist to deal with world AS IT IS instead of how he wishes it was and how he imagines it should be.

He has already told you that those objective FACTS contained in the "Breaking News" might be of interest to others...


 
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The "list" may impress others as worthy of their time and attention.



Facts that contradict his fantasy are of no interest to him though.

He has a narrative that he desperately wants to believe.

It's the childlike psychological equivalent of sticking his fingers in his ears and shouting LA-LA-LA-LA, rather than have to face REALITY.

Look back at the 4 long YEARS that he desperately clung to the "Trump-Russia-Collusion" fiction and at how he and his comrade Leftists adamantly REFUSED to accept any developing fact and reality that contradicted their fantasy as it was systematically torn down.

Even now, you wouldn't have to scratch the surface very much at all to see that, in spite of all the facts, they STILL cling to that "collusion" fairy tale....
(Case in point: "soapy", a/k/a "cvxjet", and his constant "Trump-Russia-Putin" rants)...simple minded Leftists will hold onto that fantasy for the rest of their unhappy lives.

Decades from now Leftists will also STILL be desperately hanging onto their "insurrection" fantasy as well.

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The "R&R" show here, on this Page 20. Forum member Rickady88GT and forum member r***** (with some rinselberg thrown in for good measure.) And a cameo appearance by williegoat.

"Active Measures" helps me navigate the Totally O/T forum and its Politics threads without seeing the messages that I do not want to see. It's like an in-dash or onboard GPS system for moving securely around the forum.

I'm pleased to remark that I just added another innovation to my Active Measures tool kit in the last 48 hours.


Clint Watts is an expert on Active Measures.

Clint Watts bio

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Seems simple enough to me, just answer questions and stop running from them.
But what do I know.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

"The narrative that the Capitol protest was a 'deadly insurrection' is falling apart." That's the title of this thread. What does that even mean?




I'd suggest reading the thread from the beginning.
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This is EXACTLY why the "committee" is stacked with Trump haters. An actual bipartisan committee would have had all the answers by now.
https://www.instagram.com/p...rce=ig_web_copy_link
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"Active Measures" helps me navigate the Totally O/T forum and its Politics threads without seeing the messages that I do not want to see. It's like an in-dash or onboard GPS system for moving securely around the forum.



AND THERE IT IS FOLKS...

The delusional Leftist's actual self-confession of what I just said earlier on this page:

Facts that contradict his fantasy are of no interest to him.

He has a narrative that he desperately wants to believe.

It's the childlike psychological equivalent of sticking his fingers in his ears and shouting LA-LA-LA-LA, rather than have to face REALITY.


It's a curious dichotomy that Leftists, who always claim to be so "open minded" and "tolerant", are in reality the most close-minded, intolerant and willfully ignorant individuals that insist on living inside their own fantasy world.

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Clint Watts is an expert on Active Measures.




BULLSHIT

You're so full of crap we could unscrew the top of your head and dip it out with a ladle.

Your new MSLSD imaginary boyfriend, Clin twatts, is a Leftist media hack who is as full of crap as you are.

He actually suggested a drone strike on a former president of the United States.

Of course that is precisely the kind of moronic, irresponsible media talk that you equally moronic Leftists applaud WHILE you pretend to be "horrified" at the political violence of January 6, 2021.

Here's your new boyfriend's "active measures":






Have you EVER ONCE considered that the stupid things that you think and believe are because of the stupid people and sources that you get your propaganda and *opinions* from?

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BULLSHIT

You're so full of crap we could unscrew the top of your head and dip it out with a ladle.

Your new MSLSD imaginary boyfriend, Clin twatts, is a Leftist media hack who is as full of crap as you are.

He actually suggested a drone strike on a former president of the United States.

Of course that is precisely the kind of moronic, irresponsible media talk that you equally moronic Leftists applaud WHILE you pretend to be "horrified" at the political violence of January 6, 2021.

Here's your new boyfriend's "active measures":






Have you EVER ONCE considered that the stupid things that you think and believe are because of the stupid people and sources that you get your propaganda and *opinions* from?



All I can say is WOW. I avoided that entire reply because I suspected it was just propaganda, but dang, that is more worse than propaganda, kinda stupidity.
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All I can say is WOW. I avoided that entire reply because I suspected it was just propaganda, but dang, that is more worse than propaganda, kinda stupidity.




Oh there's more.... LOTS MORE.

Like how much of a low-life, scumbag, fraud do you have to be when even the children of low-life, scumbag, frauds think Clin Twatts is a low-life scumbag?

Here's the son of low-life, scumbag and Clinton "fixer", Sidney Blumenthal, telling what a fraud and scumbag Clin Twatts is:


https://thegrayzone.com/201...g-expert-censorship/

WOW....what a Twatts!


"a former U.S. Army officer who had branded himself an expert on Russian meddling..."

"Though Watts is best known for his punditry on Russian interference, it’s fair to say he is as much an expert on Russian affairs as Harvey Weinstein is a trusted voice on feminism.

.... Watts appears to speak no Russian, has no record of reporting or scholarship from inside Russia, and has produced little to no work of any discernible academic value on Russian affairs."


"Watts said that those who took to social media to mock and criticize his Foreign Affairs article were, in fact, Russian bots."

The article even details how his "signature" bullshit theme of "active measures" is also COMPLETE BULLSHIT.

He's just another one of the transient LEFTIST "heroes" who are nothing more than bullshit artists and propagandists, (same thing), and grifting opportunists.

It's no surprise that our PFF PURVEYOR OF PERJURY latched onto this clown just like he has latched onto a long list of other propagandists and frauds.

Leftists gotta Leftist

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"The only true war that ever existed was a war for the narrative, controlling what you believe is everything."
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"A good number"

The House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol is expected to issue a "good number" of subpoenas, beyond the four "subs" (if you will) that have already been issued, seeking testimony from four well known individuals; to wit: former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, former White House communications aide and "Twitter butler" Dan Scavino, former Defense Department staffer Kash Patel and former (and perhaps current) Trump adviser Steve Bannon.

"Jan. 6 committee to issue more subpoenas soon"
Sarah Mucha (Mucha Obliged?) for Axios; September 27, 2021.
https://www.axios.com/jan-6...89-4ca5cebebfbd.html


"Good people . . . morphed into terrorists"
~ U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan

"Judges asked if Jan. 6 plea deals were too lenient. Now, the U.S. for the first time seeks jail for a misdemeanor offender."
Spencer S. Hsu for the Washington Post; September 28, 2021.
https://www.washingtonpost....a2b2da34b_story.html


A "chunk" news report that pegs the Read-o-Meter to an estimated 7 minutes of reading time.

"Jan. 6 trials slowed by mounting evidence in US Capitol riot"
 
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Nearly nine months have passed since the riot at the U.S. Capitol, and federal agents have arrested more than 600 people across the country believed to have joined in the Jan. 6 attack
Alanna Durkin Richer (Richer than you?) and Lindsay Whitehurst for the Associated Press; ABC News; September 28, 2021.
https://abcnews.go.com/Poli...apitol-riot-80275216

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So far, only about 80 cases have been resolved by guilty pleas — largely by those who were charged only with misdemeanor offenses. Scores of others face serious felony charges including conspiracy, assaulting officers and obstructing of an official proceeding that call for lengthy sentences behind bars.

The Justice Department has called it the largest investigation in American history, with probes open in 55 out of 56 FBI field offices. Evidence collected in the attack includes thousands of hours of video footage, hundreds of thousands of tips from the public and more than 1 million Parler posts, replies and data. The Justice Department is building massive databases to share all evidence stemming from the attack with defense attorneys.

In the most high-profile case brought so far, involving more than a dozen members and associates of the far-right extremist group the Oath Keepers, prosecutors recently told a judge that a January [2022] trial date for the first set of defendants is looking increasingly unrealistic given how much evidence they still need to get into defense attorneys' hands.

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I'm sure we can wait while they sort it all out, I just hope those suspected of various things aren't being denied any rights while we all wait, and wait...and wait...
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I'm sure we can wait while they sort it all out, I just hope those suspected of various things aren't being denied any rights while we all wait, and wait...and wait...



If former president Trump were to officially announce tomorrow that he was running again in 2024 all of this Sturm und Drang will drag out until August - October of 2024

If Joe Talibiden and Old Crone, San Fran Nan' believe that he won't, then you can expect them to wrap up this crap well prior to next year's midterms when they see that their narrative is not helping the Left politically and realize that they can't afford to allow a new Republican led House and Senate to end it for them.

If anyone believes that any of this is being "slow walked" for any purpose other than for imagined political advantage and to keep ignorant, delusional, Lefties enthralled (as clearly evidenced in this thread), they are seriously mistaken.

...............................................................................................................................

Meanwhile, the jaw-dropping stupidity from Leftists continues unabated, as it must:

From one of the moronic articles propaganda from the Washington COMPost above:

"There is no riot without rioters,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Leslie Goemaat argued.

Obviously the Leftist propagandists and the drooling Leftist morons they feed can't grasp the equally valid concept that; There is no insurrection without insurrectionists.

I shouldn't have to repeat that NOBODY has been charged with any crime even remotely resembling "insurrection"......but I will

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If former president Trump were to officially announce tomorrow that he was running again in 2024 all of this Sturm und Drang will drag out until August - October of 2024

If Joe Talibiden and Old Crone, San Fran Nan' believe that he won't, then you can expect them to wrap up this crap well prior to next year's midterms when they see that their narrative is not helping the Left politically and realize that they can't afford to allow a new Republican led House and Senate to end it for them.

If anyone believes that any of this is being "slow walked" for any purpose other than for imagined political advantage and to keep ignorant, delusional, Lefties enthralled (as clearly evidenced in this thread), they are seriously mistaken.



It is beyond wondering if Trump will run. I think the answer is clear enough to the democrat puppet masters.
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"Good people . . . morphed into terrorists"
~ U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan



I see that idiot Emmet Sullivan hasn't learned a damn thing from his crap in the past.

If Ms. Bancroft has the resources to mount even a modest appellate effort she will be happily and richly rewarded by that ignorant, old, bastard's blatant expression of judicial bias for even suggesting that a defendant in his court, not so accused, is a "terrorist".

At the very least, any Jan. 6 defendant with a case pending before Sullivan's court has just been given a slam dunk reason for a motion to recuse.

What a moron, but....Leftists gotta Leftist.
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Ok, so this is interesting:
 
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"Good people . . . morphed into terrorists"
~ U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan



At what point did any one on Jan6 become terrorists? And by what legal definition?
Then, I ask why this doesn't apply to antifa blm?
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"There is no riot without rioters,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Leslie Goemaat argued.




WOW!


After posting that it suddenly occurred to me.....

Leslie Goematt Esq. is exactly correct,...... but not in the manner Goematt presumed.

Just like an "insurrection" without "insurrectionists" , if NOBODY was charged with RIOT under 18 U.S. Code § 2101, then logically ....

THERE WAS NO RIOT

I just did a quick perusal of the charges that the DOJ has brought thus far against those arrested and indeed it appears that NOBODY has been charged with RIOT.

The BREAKING NEWS will immediately be edited accordingly and remain so unless / until indisputably proven otherwise.

(I'm sure the PENNOCKS PURVEYOR OF PERJURY will be furiously searching for a "rioter" or two.....in the meanwhile...)

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Ok, so this is interesting:

At what point did any one on Jan6 become terrorists? And by what legal definition?




The short answer is, THEY DIDN'T.

Nobody arrested and charged from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events on January 6, 2021 has been charged with "terrorism".

Just like the crap that came out of his face related to the General Michael Flynn case, that's just more "oral feces" from Emmett Sullivan.

Good judges
that follow the rules and the law know better than to spew bullshit like Sullivan does lest they be recused, overturned or in some cases reprimanded or removed from the bench.

Sullivan is obviously an idiot.

The problem is this:

An appeal, especially at the federal level, can very expensive and time consuming.
The vast majority of "Jan 6" defendants are average "Joe and Jane 6 Pack" and do not usually have the financial resources to mount a huge appeals case.
It's very likely that the old bastard Sullivan is counting on that and that's possibly why he feels "free" now to show more of what a monumental, biased, jackass he is.

Flynn had the money and lawyers to fight him.......these poor folks don't.
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By the way, THANKS

I added the fact that NOBODY has been charged with "terrorism" to the Breaking News


WOW...That Leftist "narrative" is disappearing faster and faster isn't it?

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As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2383) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH SEDITION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2384) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH TERRORISM (18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 113B § 2331) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RIOT (18 U.S. Code § 2101) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 570 individuals], (<1.9 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 35 individuals, (6.1 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 4 individuals, (0.7 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 23 individuals, (4.0 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 23 individuals, (<0.07 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.

As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.

As of today the Leftist Congress is trying to soak the American taxpayers for HALF A BILLION DOLLARS in "damages" after telling the DOJ and the federal courts that the capitol building sustained $1.5 million in damages.

As of today 6 Capitol police officers are facing disciplinary action for their actions related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

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The press and their sheeple still call it an insurrection.
The press still calls BLM riots, murders and looting, "mostly peaceful protests".
The press still calls Charlottesville a "deadly White supremacist rally".

None of these are true. Most people cower when publicly asked about 2 of them. So don't expect anything to change when so many 'righteously indignant' people cower.

If you aren't part of the solution....
then don't expect anyone to stand up for you when it's your turn to be targeted. And your time to be targeted is coming SOON.

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The press and their sheeple still call it an insurrection.
The press still calls BLM riots, murders and looting, "mostly peaceful protests".
The press still calls Charlottesville a "deadly White supremacist rally".

None of these are true. Most people cower when publicly asked about 2 of them. So don't expect anything to change when so many 'righteously indignant' people cower.

If you aren't part of the solution....
then don't expect anyone to stand up for you when it's your turn to be targeted. And your time to be targeted is coming SOON.



The Narrative is falling apart, but only those who look see it.

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Originally posted by 2.5:The Narrative is falling apart, but only those who look see it.


If the press doesn't cover it and social media bans it, and people still use social media and listen to the press then the truth does not matter because it gets no traction because people are ambivalent.

Another example: go to the hood and explain how you aren't a racist. Go to an Antifa or BLM rally as a White centrist and explain how tolerant you are.

Those Jan 6ers are still in jail. Those Charlottesville rally goers are still in jail, falsely imprisoned, erroneously fined while those that attacked them got off super lightly and didn't have their GoFundMe accounts deleted.

What did any if the readers do about Trump being canceled or all the right wingers getting defunded?

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