"More than 100 unique, classified documents seized by the FBI at Mar-A-Lago ..."
Who else tops out at more than 100?
From the St Louis Cardinals, relievers Ryan Helsley and Jordan Hicks, both Right Handed Pitchers, are the most likely to light up the radar gun during a game with 100 and 100+ mph pitches. That's the velocity of the baseball at the moment it leaves the pitcher's hand.
"Making the connections, so you don't have to."
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"Classified" is former U.S. president Donald J. Trump's first artistic endeavor. In a search to add meaning to his life as a retiree, after a career that led him to the pinnacle of power atop the U.S. federal government, Donald Trump turned his Mar-A-Lago residence in Florida into his artist's studio. His first exhibited work, "Classified", is a carefully posed photograph that captures the randomness and ennui of life as a federal worker who's immersed in a daily inundation of documented secrets that he is not supposed to share.
"What's the fun of knowing all these secrets, if you can't share them with your friends and admirers?"
That's the question behind this Warhol-esque photograph, which employs the familiar idiom of document cover pages for its expression. We're all familiar with document cover pages, even if the documents that we're accustomed to seeing are not marked SECRET. This is the Pop Art genre, in one of its simplest and most straightforward expressions.
"Classified" was shown in various museums and galleries throughout the Untied States before making its way across the Atlantic to the Tate Modern in London, which has become its permanent home.
Tate Modern; Bankside, London SE1 9TG.
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"Classified" is former U.S. president Donald J. Trump's first artistic endeavor. In a search to add meaning to his life as a retiree, after a career that led him to the pinnacle of power atop the U.S. federal government, Donald Trump turned his Mar-A-Lago residence in Florida into his artist's studio. His first exhibited work, "Classified", is a carefully posed photograph that captures the randomness and ennui of life as a federal worker who's immersed in a daily inundation of documented secrets that he is not supposed to share.
"What's the fun of knowing all these secrets, if you can't share them with your friends and admirers?"
That's the question behind this Warhol-esque photograph, which employs the familiar idiom of document cover pages for its expression. We're all familiar with document cover pages, even if the documents that we're accustomed to seeing are not marked SECRET. This is the Pop Art genre, in one of its simplest and most straightforward expressions.
"Classified" was shown in various museums and galleries throughout the Untied States before making its way across the Atlantic to the Tate Modern in London, which has become its permanent home.
Tate Modern; Bankside, London SE1 9TG.
DECLASSIFIED, fact checked true. EVERYTHING he had stolen from his residence by this communist brown shirt Brandon administration has been DECLASSIFIED. Nothing but political thuggery and hate has been displayed by this Brandon administration. This Brandon administration has successfully divided America like slavery had before the first Civil War. Brandon is preparing America to fight each other again. Nothing good or productive will ever come from this Brandon administration. In the words of a failed American President "Never underestimate the ability of joe Brandon to f@ck things up". Independently fact checked true.
"Classified" is former U.S. president Donald J. Trump's first artistic endeavor. In a search to add meaning to his life as a retiree, after a career that led him to the pinnacle of power atop the U.S. federal government, Donald Trump turned his Mar-A-Lago residence in Florida into his artist's studio. His first exhibited work, "Classified", is a carefully posed photograph that captures the randomness and ennui of life as a federal worker who's immersed in a daily inundation of documented secrets that he is not supposed to share.
"What's the fun of knowing all these secrets, if you can't share them with your friends and admirers?"
That's the question behind this Warhol-esque photograph, which employs the familiar idiom of document cover pages for its expression. We're all familiar with document cover pages, even if the documents that we're accustomed to seeing are not marked SECRET. This is the Pop Art genre, in one of its simplest and most straightforward expressions.
"Classified" was shown in various museums and galleries throughout the Untied States before making its way across the Atlantic to the Tate Modern in London, which has become its permanent home.
Tate Modern; Bankside, London SE1 9TG.
I think what's more frustrating than the false narrative that the media continues to portray, is the fact that people who don't know any differently, are the ones who repeat it.
Nearly everything you see there are merely empty folders. But because they have the cover sheets on them, people are losing their mind. The FBI took 43 "EMPTY" folders that had classification markings on them (what you see above).
People are shocked when they see this... but they literally have no idea that you could throw these in the trash, and it would mean nothing.
These are COVER SHEETS which are stapled to the front of a folder to designate what the classification of the contents are INSIDE. They are used for couriering classified materials as you walk through the halls, or when you put them in courier bags. People don’t realize that these folders themselves are NOT classified… nor are the cover sheets. Simply because the coversheet says “TOP SECRET” on it, does not make the cover sheet TOP SECRET. So these 43 folders mean nothing… but everyone is losing their **** , and the Democrats are not doing anything to stop the false narrative because they are none too pleased with the results. Referencing the picture you posted above... you see the words SECRET//SCI at the very bottom? There's little words written JUST above that which you cannot make out... it says:
"(This cover sheet is unclassified)"
For that matter, the other 5 folders were information that was all totally declassified by Trump, which he, and only he, had the absolute authority to do. He could simply declassify things by merely stating it… but he requested it.
The more I think about it, the more enraged that I get, and the more resolved I am to vote for Trump. The past 8 years will go down as the biggest Democrat scandal in history. For sure, we can say at this point that the Democrats have removed the barriers that listed what was and was not acceptable... I hope to God that when Trump gets back into power in 2024, that he runs roughshod over the Federal government and clears out all the avowed Communists, and radical leftists.
The court filing also provided a breakdown of the type of markings on the classified material taken from Mar-a-Lago, including 18 documents marked TOP SECRET, 54 documents marked SECRET and 31 documents marked CONFIDENTIAL.
Those are documents that the FBI seized, not just the cover sheets that "82" has been talking about.
That same article goes on to report about the empty document folders or cover sheets.
"Mar-a-Lago search inventory shows documents marked as classified mixed with clothes, gifts, press clippings" Tierney Sneed and Katie Bo Lillis for CNN; September 2, 2022. https://www.cnn.com/2022/09...go-search/index.html
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Those are documents that the FBI seized, not just the cover sheets that "82" has just been talking about.
That same article goes on to report about the empty document folders or cover sheets.
"Mar-a-Lago search inventory shows documents marked as classified mixed with clothes, gifts, press clippings" Tierney Sneed and Katie Bo Lillis for CNN; September 2, 2022. https://www.cnn.com/2022/09...go-search/index.html
Ugh, I addressed that, you're not reading what I said. The other documents in question are ones that Trump has already claimed to have declassified.
For one, Trump's office is a SCIF. Even today, as we speak, it's a secure compartmented information facility... just as Joe Biden's office in his Delaware home is also a SCIF.
Trump has already stated that the documents he took home, were ones that he gave an order to declassify.
I didn't hiccup when I said it... Trump was the only one with the authority to do so at the time. What he said goes. The entire concept of classification is created by Presidential decree in an executive order.
Ugh, I addressed that, you're not reading what I said.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Trump has already stated that the documents he took home, were ones that he gave an order to declassify.
I didn't hiccup when I said it... Trump was the only one with the authority to do so at the time. What he said goes. The entire concept of classification is created by Presidential decree in an executive order.
Historians call him "William Pelham" Barr, but you know him as "Bill" Barr. He was the second of the two Senate-confirmed Attorneys General of the United States that served under President Donald J. Trump. In an on-air interview Friday on Fox News, and talking about the FBI search at Mar-A-Lago, Barr threw Trump under the bus, then put the bus in Reverse and backed it up over Trump, before putting it in Drive to roll over Trump's prostate body for a third time.
This YouTube clip is just 53 seconds, which is all the time that Bill Barr needed. Which raises the question of whether a much younger Bill Barr had a job with a transit agency (or the like) as a bus driver.
"Mar-a-Lago search inventory shows documents marked as classified mixed with clothes, gifts, press clippings" Tierney Sneed and Katie Bo Lillis for CNN; September 2, 2022. https://www.cnn.com/2022/09...go-search/index.html
This childishly transparent propaganda obviously had it's designed effect and created the intended false image in the heads of weak minded Leftists.
"There was sekret paperz jus throwed EVER-WHER we tell ya...EVER-WHER!"
Leftists gotta Leftist ...and it never involves any critical thinking.
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Well, I guess that settles it. As soon as one of Trump's lawyers"Bill" presents the truth about the matter, as revealed in the post that was posted immediately before the post that was posted immediately before this post (two posts before this one), in his TV opinion and presents it to the "rump-appointed" U.S. District Court Judge Aileen Cannon (instead of the lowly magistrate judge "Blowhard Bruce"), then it will be LIKE the FBI investigation of presidential documents at Mar-A-Lago NEVER EVEN HAPPENED.IS A DONE DEAL
It will all be wrapped up, probably by the end of this week. "FBI investigation closed with out any criminal indictments or further action."
Leftists gotta Leftist
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Historians call him "William Pelham" Barr, but you know him as "Bill" Barr. He was the second of the two Senate-confirmed Attorneys General of the United States that served under President Donald J. Trump. It was just days before the FBI "raid" at Mar-A-Lago when Barr went on CBS News and said something that was very surprising in a way, even though it was, in another way (the sharpened perspective of hindsight?) not really surprising at all.
Rinselberg, Trump is your master. He clearly lives in your head. Obviously Putin isn't a master of Trump, Trump dominated him politically, and humiliated the American leftists with the Russian Colusion hoax. For several years the leftists have tried to sell the idea that Russia had something to do with Trump being victorious over hillary. BTW Hillary was such an awful and EASILY hateable person. Common sense says Trump won the votes and the democrats can only blame themselves for thrusting her upon the democratic ticket. TDS, is yours to live with, and it clearly shows.
It's as much a reaction to "Wichita" as anything else.
He's been posting image memes on this forum over the last several days (if not longer) with the same frenetic pace that Trump was churning out QAnon-related messages on his Truth Social "Twitter substitute" the other day.
Again Rinselberg, TDS, blinds you from reality. Trump declassified EVERYTHING that was taken home with him. At some point in time reality must set in, and reject your propagandists who control and tell you what to think and believe. Step back and look at reality,... the Whitehouse doesn't have to relable the ink stamps on folders. Declassified is declassified. Reality dictates that if Trump had stolen top secrets, he would at least be questioned by now. The Brandon administration has been planning this for nearly 2 years. They knew what they wanted to find, so they either found it and it wasn't a crime or they found nothing but an election year photo opp. WAKE UP, Trump isn't running for office in 2022. Brandon and his cronies can't stop talking about Trump. And the reasons are BLATANTLY OBVIOUS. They do not have any relevant or productive accomplishments and they know it. They can only hope and pray that their shared hate of Trump will be enough to carry them. So they hilariously claim that they won't mention his name or give him any time, BUT Trump is VERRRRRY MUCH all they can think about. In their minds, they are running against Trump in EVERY SINGLE OFFICE that is up for election.
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Originally posted by Rickady88GT: Rinselberg, Trump is your master. He clearly lives in your head. Obviously Putin isn't a master of Trump, Trump dominated him politically, and humiliated the American leftists with the Russian Colusion hoax. For several years the leftists have tried to sell the idea that Russia had something to do with Trump being victorious over hillary. BTW Hillary was such an awful and EASILY hateable person. Common sense says Trump won the votes and the democrats can only blame themselves for thrusting her upon the democratic ticket.
TDS, is yours to live with, and it clearly shows.
It's refreshing to see this Politics & Religion section of the forum become more vibrant in recent weeks, with a larger number of different "voices" showing up to say things.
I have never said or thought to myself (although you would have to take my word on that) that Trump won the 2016 presidential election because of the foreign meddling in the election that was orchestrated or encouraged by Vladimir Putin. I have never said that Trump was not a legitimately elected President of the United States.
It's only conjecture that in a closely contested election, which counted more votes for Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump—the popular vote—that the foreign meddling in the electtion from Russia, or associated with Russia, was a decisive factor that made the difference.
I don't think that the U.S. Department of Justice or the FBI saw it as within their proper scope to investigate that idea. I doubt that even the more secretive national intelligence community (like the CIA) worked on that kind of analysis, although I guess it's possible and that it has remained a secret from the public. I doubt that there is (was) any possibility of analyzing all of the evidence and data in such a way that would result in any such conclusion about the 2016 presidential election.
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Originally posted by Rickady88GT: Again Rinselberg, TDS, blinds you from reality. Trump declassified EVERYTHING that was taken home with him. At some point in time reality must set in, and reject your propagandists who control and tell you what to think and believe. Step back and look at reality,... the Whitehouse doesn't have to relable the ink stamps on folders. Declassified is declassified. Reality dictates that if Trump had stolen top secrets, he would at least be questioned by now. The Brandon administration has been planning this for nearly 2 years. They knew what they wanted to find, so they either found it and it wasn't a crime or they found nothing but an election year photo opp. WAKE UP, Trump isn't running for office in 2022. Brandon and his cronies can't stop talking about Trump. And the reasons are BLATANTLY OBVIOUS. They do not have any relevant or productive accomplishments and they know it. They can only hope and pray that their shared hate of Trump will be enough to carry them. So they hilariously claim that they won't mention his name or give him any time, BUT Trump is VERRRRRY MUCH all they can think about. In their minds, they are running against Trump in EVERY SINGLE OFFICE that is up for election.
I don't know about the idea that the National Archives and FBI investigation that led to the FBI search at Mar-A-Lago was controlled by President Biden or controlled by the Democrats in such a way that it would become a big, headlines grabbing news story in August, this close to the midterm elections, instead of an investigation that was conducted on an "honest" calendar schedule and timeline. That's a conspiracy theory. Too many moving parts for me to believe. It implies a level of cooperation or complicity at the lower levels of the National Archives, the Department of Justice and the FBI that I think is too far-fetched for me to believe.
But let's say it were true. Where do we go with it? How is this going to play out?
Could Trump be indicted by the U.S. Department of Justice over this "documents" case?
I think it's not unlikely. I wont' say it's likely, either. Just "not unlikely". I don't think it would happen before next year is underway. I think the DOJ and FBI would want to take that much more time to continue the investigation, organize the evidence and line up all their other "ducks in a row" before coming out with any criminal indictment of the former President.
If the DOJ just wants to issue one or more criminal indictments of Donald Trump over this documents case, I think they already have enough evidence to do it.
But I think that decision, "to indict, or not to indict", could well depend on further investigation into the specific contents and classification levels of the documents at issue. That's where the damage assessment from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (currently, Avril Haines) will come into play. The more "damage" that can be argued, the more inclination there would be for the DOJ to press charges against the former President. (Just my opinion.)
As far as this assertion that some forum members are coming out with, that Trump had declassified the documents—I don't "see it."
Strictly speaking—legally—I don't think that DOJ needs to establish that the documents that were marked with classification levels are, in fact, classified, in order to justify charges against the former President.
If it comes to a judge or jury trial, is the former President's word that he declassified the documents on or before his last day as President (before Biden was sworn in) going to be persuasive?
I doubt it.
For the sake of brevity (ha ha ha) I will leave it at that.
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I wonder if our little sewer troll will ever realize that we don't live in Harry Potter land, and when things get declassified, the word "Classified" doesn't magically disappear from the pages.
In the past few years, the only thing that's truly disappeared is any respect I had for democrats.
I wonder if our little sewer troll will ever realize that we don't live in Harry Potter land, and when things get declassified, the word "Classified" doesn't magically disappear from the pages.
In the past few years, the only thing that's truly disappeared is any respect I had for democrats.
I don't know what part of that is more ludicrous: the "little sewer troll", or the word "our" that precedes it.
It's actually too ludicrous—comical, really—to make me irritated with "Fats" about it.
Is Trump keeping something up his sleeve? Some records that were kept, or someone who would testify under oath that Trump actually declassified these specially marked documents while he was still the President? Something that Trump could bring out like a secret weapon in his defense, if he is indicted and if the case goes to trial?
It's still a hypothetical of course, but in that scenario, will Trump's word that he declassified the documents be persuasive to a judge or jury? Would Kash Patel (that's the first name that comes to mind) swear under oath that he witnessed that Trump declassified the documents? That Trump said, in front of Kash Patel, that "These documents are now declassified by my authority as President."..?
I would think that even Kash Patel, who has been a tried and true Trump loyalist, might not be willing to do that. Mark Meadows, who was Trump's last White House Chief of Staff? Pat Cipollone, who was Trump's last White House Counsel?
The problem I see for any of these potential witnesses in the (as yet hypothetical) United States v. Donald J. Trump is that they could be putting themselves at risk of perjury. What if they're not believed by the judge or jury? What if there is contradictory testimony from the likes of John Bolton, or Robert O'Brien, who was Trump's last national security advisor?
By the way, "Fats", I think you meant "Democrats" and not "democrats". Unless you are trying to define yourself as a crypto-fascist, which is a word that Biden could have used instead of "semi-fascist", when he was talking about MAGA-style extremism. Biden could have said "crypto-fascist", but for obvious reasons, "semi-fascist" would be more understandable to many of the people in his audience. Of course, Biden himself might not have thought of "crypto-fascist". One of his speechwriters, maybe, but Biden himself? I don't know about that.
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In the past few years, the only thing that's truly disappeared is any respect I had for democrats.
I hate to say it, but this is pretty much how I feel too. I am still friends with my liberal friends... but I will never ever again trust Democrats. At one point I voted Democrat, and continued to vote for Democrats now and then... but the past two elections, I've voted straight-ticket Republican, and I see the Democrat party for whom they truly are now.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I hate to say it, but this is pretty much how I feel too. I am still friends with my liberal friends... but I will never ever again trust Democrats. At one point I voted Democrat, and continued to vote for Democrats now and then... but the past two elections, I've voted straight-ticket Republican, and I see the Democrat party for whom they truly are now.
There isn't a Democrat party anymore. It died some time ago. It was choked to death by Leftist / Neo-Marxists and it's corpse was burned and buried by the "woke" supremacy.
What remains now hatesyou and anyone else that dares to disagree or oppose them. They hate you with a white-hot passion and they want you silenced, or dead if they can't silence you.
They don't want bipartisan agreement, cooperation or tolerance. They want power, all of it, and they demand your unquestioning obedience.
You cannot reason with them and you cannot negotiate with them. That requires them to deal honestly and in good faith and they don't and never have.
Your only hope is to defeat them at every turn.
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