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Any REAL interest in a widebody kit? by Archie
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Yes, that sounds like a good idea, i'm wondering what it'll look like on a stock fiero GT
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Yes please can we have some more? I would like to see them fitted. It would help me make up my mind on buying them.
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Would anyone like to see the pics of that GT fittted with the widebody panels?


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[crowd roars]: Hell yeah!!!

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Originally posted by Archie:


I decided that we should fit the 1st set of complete panels to that GT so that we can see how the panels would fit a stock roofed Fiero GT & how they'd have to be trimmed for a non chop top car.

Archie



How about next testing them on a stock roofed chop top? (non-window fastback}.
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Originally posted by jscott1:
How about next testing them on a stock roofed chop top? (non-window fastback}.


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I think what JScott is trying to say is fit it to a chop top without the rear custom hatch that is on Curly's car.
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What we plan to do on this car is to trim & mount the panels to this car using self tapping screws. Then, once we have them trimmed correctly for a stock roofed GT, remove the panels from the car & place them back into their molds. We will then scribe the molds so that future parts will come out of the molds with "Cut-to" lines right in the jell-coat. Then we will remount the panels to this car and glass them in place. All the time wewill be taking lots of pics so that we can turn the pics into a detailed set of instructions.

Once we have these panels mounted & glassed to this GT & it's served it's demo purposes, I'll most likely put it up for sale to someone who wants to fix it up & put it back on the road.

We've already got the right side & rear parts on the car, just need to mount up the right side tomorrow.

Here's what it looks like now...













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Originally posted by tuner2m6t:

I think what JScott is trying to say is fit it to a chop top without the rear custom hatch that is on Curly's car.


OH, I thought he had something in mind.

Since one of my chop top GT's has no modifications to the body work under the greenhouse, the instructions for mounting the panels should be just about the same as the GT I posted above.

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Very nice work Archie, looks GREAT!

Can't wait to see the first finished project.

Super job, your guys need a bonus!

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Very nice indeed!
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Sweet. I love it

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looks great Archie. Looks like I may need a larger garage
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Originally posted by tuner2m6t:

I think what JScott is trying to say is fit it to a chop top without the rear custom hatch that is on Curly's car.


Yeah, that's what I was saying...I guess I can just photchop Archie's car and get the same effect.





Very Nice Indeed!!

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I want to see the drivers side of the car with the gas filler area, want to see what that area looks like

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Kudos, big "ups", thumbs ups, and all that jazz to Madcurl and Archie! I think this is the single most significant upgrade I have seen for the exterior of the Fiero. It still looks like a Fiero, but a much more balanced version. I always said the proportions of the car are more front-engine/rear-drive in appearance. Changing the hood-to-trunk ratio isn't easy, so this is probably the best way to make the mid-engine layout a little more obvious. A big fat butt, filed with wide low-profiles...

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I kinda' thought the kit would look "good" but....I never knew it was going to look that good...but it does!

I agree with Toddshotrod. The kit maintains the over-all Fiero theme and modernizes the look & feel of the Fiero w/o going over the top.

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I know this is approaching sacrilege on this site but I think this look better than the 89/90 concept everyone raves about.
 
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Originally posted by Sage:

Super job, your guys need a bonus!



Ah-hem.....cough cough....
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Originally posted by AutoTech:


Ah-hem.....cough cough....


Pay no nevermind to Sage, He's part of a small conspiracy trying to put me out of business by saying stuff like that.

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The gas cap opening is molded in & will allow the Fiero gas door to mount flush.

Any more questions?

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Archie, first i want to say HOLY CRAP!! that looks good.

now the question i have is: will these molds work with (insert correct company here)'s widebody front fenders, or are you thinking of producing your own (hint hint)?

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If you get a chance can you throw the rear fenders on a notchback ? you dont have to screw it on but im just looking to get an idea
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For those that are wondering what it might look like all one color...

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Originally posted by fieroman87:

Archie, first i want to say HOLY CRAP!! that looks good.

now the question i have is: will these molds work with (insert correct company here)'s widebody front fenders, or are you thinking of producing your own (hint hint)?


It's hard to say right now. I think we're going to just kinda go with the flow on this one.

I've been thinking that We'd final mount & glass in these panels to this car starting about tuesday of next week. While doing that I'm going to be taking a lot of detailed installation pictures of that install. Then we'll have detailed instructions for those that want the WideBody kit. At that point I think we are going to sell the donor chassis to someone who's looking to buy a budget widebody. It's got a bad engine in it & and automatic and a great interior. So it would make someone a nice widebody fixer-up-er for a good price. That person would also be getting the 1st car in the country with these panels on it.

We've thought about continuing on with this widebody and design a complimentary nose for the widebody. The new owner of this car may want us to continue on and build that front end on this car for him (her). If the car doesn't sell, we'll most likelydesign the front end for this car and I'll build it as my next personal car.

So it's still up in the air & we'll move on to the next phase as we go along.

Archie

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If you get a chance can you throw the rear fenders on a notchback ? you dont have to screw it on but im just looking to get an idea


Yes, next week.

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Ooooh! Now I've gotta save *more* pennies for this conversion.

Archie, you're making it harder and harder to decide on what I'm going do to my notchie...

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Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O:

For those that are wondering what it might look like all one color...




And Chopped, dropped with wider wheels:

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Originally posted by Archie:

We've thought about continuing on with this widebody and design a complimentary nose for the widebody. The new owner of this car may want us to continue on and build that front end on this car for him (her). If the car doesn't sell, we'll most likely design the front end for this car and I'll build it as my next personal car.

So it's still up in the air & we'll move on to the next phase as we go along.

Archie



Earth to Tony...please respond, hehe.

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Could you throw a set of say 18"s on there so I kinda can get an idea of what a set would look like. I just don't want to run 20's on it cause I already have the 18's and I don't mind running wheel spacers and longer studs.
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Originally posted by tuner2m6t:

Could you throw a set of say 18"s on there so I kinda can get an idea of what a set would look like. I just don't want to run 20's on it cause I already have the 18's and I don't mind running wheel spacers and longer studs.


Wheel size has very little to do with filling up the wheel well. The overall diamter of the wheel tire combo is usually within a few percent whether it's 15", 16", 18" or whatever. In the photoshop I didn't make the 15" wheel/tires any bigger, I just lowered the car and put the equivalent of spacers on.

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And Chopped, dropped with wider wheels:


That's what I call "teamwork"
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Sorry I was under the the unerstanding that the kit was designed to work with the 20"s that curly is using. And I just wanted to see what the car would look like with a set of 18's and some spacers if possible. I can make desicions better when I already see it on another car or see something similar to what I want.
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Originally posted by tuner2m6t:

Sorry I was under the the unerstanding that the kit was designed to work with the 20"s that curly is using.


Fair enough, I'm just pointing out that you don't need a body kit for 20" wheels, they will fit on a stock Fiero (88 at least). The point of the widebody is Wider wheels, not larger in diameter.
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Who said it wasnt? Buy some coil-overs.
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Originally posted by tuner2m6t:

Sorry I was under the the unerstanding that the kit was designed to work with the 20"s that curly is using. And I just wanted to see what the car would look like with a set of 18's and some spacers if possible. I can make desicions better when I already see it on another car or see something similar to what I want.



As Jscott mentioned, any tire/rim combo that is atleast 26.0 in diameter or better should and will have the same visual fx. However, you'll need at least 10.5 width in order the create the wide fx. If your using 18's in the rear I'd personally would use 295's or better. 245/255/265/275/285 would defeat the purpose in having a wide body. Granted, spacers would too defeat the whole purpose and will cause issues.

Edit: The fronts rims on #020 choptop are 19x9's wrapped in 255's and they'd look pretty silly if the rims where mounted on the rear. I tried 20x9.5 using 275 on #015 and the result was the same... baby-ish.

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Dang...I really have to stop looking at this thread! My car is sitting there just begging me to put this wide body kit on it before I paint...so many choices...so little money to make them all
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The making of a new widebody style just in time for the 25th....how fitting is that!
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madcurl what did the rims cost for your ride. also do you have a link
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Archie did you put a final price on the kit and the individual pieces ?

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