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#\ *doublec4* /# Official Build Thread by doublec4
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Report this Post05-15-2010 10:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AmidaClick Here to Email AmidaSend a Private Message to AmidaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

The handling will be tighter with less slosh. What front spring rate are you using?

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Report this Post05-15-2010 11:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I'm using Eibach's in the front with half a coil cut.

We'll see what the ride is like

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Report this Post05-15-2010 04:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Got the side scoops on today.



Looks like my car was previously silver:



Before I can put my suspension back together I have to get one of the axle boots fixed. It has a tear in it. I guess I could reassemble the one side today...

Also, I forgot to mention that if anyone is going to be installing side scoops, invest in heavy duty zip ties and use those. Way better than screwing around with plastic rivets and that junk. Sounds like a ghetto way to do it, but I guarentee my zip ties are way sturdier and simpler than crappy plastic rivets.

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Report this Post05-15-2010 10:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Tony KaniaSend a Private Message to Tony KaniaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I have the same Eibach springs as you in the front. I have contemplated a cut. Albiet a slight one. Interesting to hear how it works out for you?

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Report this Post05-16-2010 07:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I'll let you know how it works out real soon.

Today I got some of the suspension back together. The coil overs fit like a glove and should give me more room for wider tires down the road:



Also started to line up the rear sway bar so I can drill the holes:



Tomorrow I have to get an axle boot fixed and I can get the other side together and take it in for an alignment. Should be the last day the car looks like this for a while (fingers crossed):



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Report this Post05-17-2010 08:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Axle boot fixed, transmission fluid topped up, sway bar bolted up, wheels back on, all systems go

New side scoops see the light of day:





I also think I'm happy with the ride height I set the coil overs at. Took me two tries, first try it was sitting too high. Let me know what you think!

Alignment tomorrow! Paint in the next couple days!

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Report this Post05-17-2010 09:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for aeffertzClick Here to Email aeffertzSend a Private Message to aeffertzEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

on the coils!
Stance looks great.

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Report this Post05-18-2010 01:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Tony KaniaSend a Private Message to Tony KaniaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

PFF's most photogenic Fiero.

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Maybe just a teeeeeeny smidgeon lower on the coilovers...? Only need quarter of an inch tops if anything

Looks fantastic, how's the car handle with the swaybar etc installed?

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Report this Post05-18-2010 08:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Thanks guys

and Tony, thats a pretty bold statement! Lots of nice, photogenic fieros on here including your own!

Carcenomy, I might take it down another half inch if the springs don't settle and make up for it, but thats kind of what I'm counting on. So we'll see!

I just dropped the car off at the shop for the alignment and to weld up the crack in my exhaust, as well as get those pesky front sway bar bolts out so that I can mount the new bar and finally test drive it! Keep our fingers crossed the final bill is kind to me.

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Report this Post05-18-2010 01:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Tony KaniaSend a Private Message to Tony KaniaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I know that you are a driver. With all of the suspension work, and having other mechanics handle several very important nuts and bolts on your car, do a thorough inspection of her before pushing the limits of the new equiptment. I really have had things not tightened/fastened upon delivery of my vehicle, after another has worked on it. And, it has alwys been something that I paid too much for.

I have also not put Loc-Tite on my sway bar attachments @ the cradle. After several hundred miles, I could see one side not quite holding on as intended. Also operater error. Me being the operater.

I can't attest to the coilover springs, but the Eibachs will settle some. Mine took in the neighborhood of 1,000 miles before seating in. You can feel it as they give. The ride will seem abnormally harsh in the front, but as you lean on them, they will loosen up and feel very secure in the twisties. In fact, on my 87, I am running poly cradle mounts, and can totally tell when the front is getting much better response than the rear. I can easily out drive the rear of my car. The front has yet to find it's limit. Looks like I will be ordering some aluminum cradle mounts. I hear that that is a good way to stiffen up the rear. We shall see.

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Report this Post05-19-2010 12:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Thanks Tony,

I'll give it a good thorough check before I drive it. I still have to put the front bar on, and the front chin spoiler back on. I should be getting the car back in the next half hour or so! They were able to fix up my exhaust and everything

I can't wait to get it back! I'm going to put everything back on and then wash it. Might even see a car show tonight!

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Report this Post05-19-2010 08:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Finally got to drive the car today and take it to a local show.

First impressions of the ride quality and difference: Awesome.

Much more responsive and exact now. Car tracks straight and is stable and flat through the turns. Even though I went with the larger bar in the front I can still kick the rear end out predictibly and control it with throttle.

The rear spring rate seems fine. Firmer than the Eibach's but drivable and not too harsh.

Steering is pretty light and not too heavy.

Overall, way better than stock, and leaps and bounds ahead of the worn out crap I had on there. Can't wait to drive it again tomorrow. I get the side scoops painted next Monday!

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Report this Post05-19-2010 11:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageClick Here to Email BlacktreeSend a Private Message to BlacktreeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I'm generally not a big fan of quarterpanel scoops, but on your car they look like they belong there. Very cool.

Nice wheels (and brakes, and suspension), too.

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Report this Post05-20-2010 06:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dougie MurderSend a Private Message to Dougie MurderEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Sick!! Nice work Chris!
Good to see it all worked out.

Those scoops are rad. Where are you getting it painted? Im keeping my eye out for a place that knows what they're doing and is'nt too much $$.

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Report this Post05-20-2010 06:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Thanks for the comments guys.

Dougie, I'm getting the scoops painted at Champion Motors, its east end of Toronto area. I'm getting them done on Monday. He's giving me a bit of a deal because my father had his Corvette worked over there.

So I just wanted to go over a few things that were done to the car as well that I don't think I mentioned:

Dog bone mount rewelded after I had cracked it.

Exhaust rewelded and now properly supported with hangers:



Front wheels rebalanced.

"Winglets" added to front chin spoiler... I don't know if I'm going to keep them yet.





Can't wait to get those side scoops painted! They stick out like a sore thumb in white

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Ask them how much to paint an Indy in white with all the panels off and prep work done by me or all work done by them.

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Report this Post05-21-2010 10:00 AM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

No problem,

I can ask them!

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Very nice

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Report this Post05-21-2010 08:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for skuzzbomerSend a Private Message to skuzzbomerEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

 
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"Winglets" added to front chin spoiler... I don't know if I'm going to keep them yet.




For some reason, I know I've seen this image of your car before; with the scoops installed . However, I also know that isn't really possible.

If my (possibly hallucinogenic) memory serves, they'll look great once you get them painted...

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Report this Post05-22-2010 02:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Thanks guys,

and skuzz, maybe you feel like you've seen it because I took a very very similar picture that I think is on a previous page in this thread. My car was parked approximately in the same spot, and I took the picture at the same angle too. Might be why!

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Got any pictures of the finished front sway bar that gave you so much grief ?

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Report this Post05-22-2010 10:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Sure, I could try and get some pictures. A little tough while the car is on the ground and everything, but its possible!

Might even take a short video of the car tomorrow

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just gotta get them scoops painted now, Looking good man. Hey also do you still need that steering shock?

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Report this Post05-24-2010 09:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Thanks for the offer, I forgot about the steering shock! I think I'll pass on it at this time. Mine seemed to still be in decent working order and my home made battery box requires me to remove it if I want to remove the steering damper. I kind of don't feel like taking anything apart on the car again for a while. Thanks though!

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Report this Post05-24-2010 09:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Car just went into the paint shop today. Should have it back by the end of the week with the scoops painted and a couple stone chips touched up. I can't wait for it all to be the same colour again. Should look sharp. Until then, I obviously can't get any pictures of anything else. Lets keep our fingers crossed for no over spray! (pet peeve of mine)

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Report this Post05-25-2010 04:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Ordered some LED bars from ebay. Got them for real cheap. I'm going to try and fit them under the stock turn signals and see how it goes. If they don't work, no big deal, just a couple bucks. I might wire them so that they are always on, kind of like day time running lights, seeing as how our cars don't have those.



Counting down the days until the paint is done on the scoops!

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Report this Post05-26-2010 11:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

This is the look I hope to achieve from the LED lights

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Looking good, but there's one thing missing. Where's the Choptop?

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Looking good, but there's one thing missing. Where's the Choptop?


Not EVERYTHING has to be chopped... sigh...

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Not EVERYTHING has to be chopped... sigh...


Hey now, calm yourself. I don't think everything needs to be chopped either, some Fiero's would look good with it and some wouldn't. I just thought that it would look good with doublec4's Fiero because of its stance and lowered look. I don't want one myself because I barely have headroom with a sunroof as it is.
I was also kind of kidding, because I'm pretty sure he doesn't want one.

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Report this Post05-26-2010 02:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

It might look good with my car. I've never seen a chopped notchie with a whale tail. However, I don't think it will ever be chopped. I enjoy my headroom as it is and I'd rather put the thousands of dollars into more performance oriented modifications rather than a choptop Just personal preference.

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Report this Post05-26-2010 05:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for skuzzbomerSend a Private Message to skuzzbomerEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Would you even be able to see out the back with a chop and a whaletail ?

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Would you even be able to see out the back with a chop and a whaletail ?


Good point, I don't think you could see too much out the back window with a choptop and whaletail.

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Would you even be able to see out the back with a chop and a whaletail ?


I doubt it. I lost half of my rear view with the IMSA wing. Not a big deal though, I can still see.

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Maybe we can get someone with a chop to try it out and get a pic...? I doubt you'd be able to see anything. (spoiler is 3" high, maybe... Drop roof 3" down... That gives you an inch or three)

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Maybe we can get someone with a chop to try it out and get a pic...? I doubt you'd be able to see anything. (spoiler is 3" high, maybe... Drop roof 3" down... That gives you an inch or three)



Speaking as a choptop owner.

choptop + whaletail = No hehehehe Your rear view mirror might as well be deleted ?? i am guessing you could always use cameras ?

Doesn't matter as he is not going that direction, sooooo back to the build. Car looks great BTW !

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Report this Post05-27-2010 05:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Thanks for the comments guys! Heading out in about an hour to pick up my car!

Also bringing home the painted lenses for my dad's C5R headlights

If its still daylight out, I'll take some pictures!

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Well? I want to see if it looks as good with those scoops as I had visualized previously.

Awaiting updates

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Pictures will have to wait until tomorrow.

Instead of rushing home I decided to take the car for a long drive down the lakeshore. It got lots of looks and I'm happy with how it turned out!

I'll post pictures tomorrow, I promise! (After washing it)

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