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#\ *doublec4* /# Official Build Thread by doublec4
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Report this Post02-20-2010 09:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Thanks

I do have a vision / plan for the car in my head. Overall, by the end of it I hope that it has respectable performace, and the styling to match. I want it to look race-like, no chrome or really flashy stuff.

I'm trying to stick to the red and flat black theme

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Picked up the ZZP A/C delete pulley today:



No more squeeling compressor clutch.

Now if I could only sell my ZZP 3.5 modular pulley... then I could get myself those LED front accents from TLG... they're on the wish list..

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Car looks great. Great build thread. I really need to start taking pics and put up a build thread myself before I forget everything myself.

I really like your diffuser and will more than likely steal the idea for mine. Very nice rims. I've also been looking at the Enkei OR52 and Drag DR-25 rims. I'll now be adding the Enkei RPF1 to my list and finally decide when I see them all in person.

I've also decided to go with 225/45 ZR17 Front and 255/40/ZR17 on the Rear. This would give speedo difference of +.5% which means 59.7 mph speedo = 60 mph actual. If I go with the 245/40 ZR17s the difference would be +1.6% or 59 mph speedo = 60 mph actual.

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How do you like the new wheels?


 
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Car looks great. Great build thread. I really need to start taking pics and put up a build thread myself before I forget everything myself.

I really like your diffuser and will more than likely steal the idea for mine. Very nice rims. I've also been looking at the Enkei OR52 and Drag DR-25 rims. I'll now be adding the Enkei RPF1 to my list and finally decide when I see them all in person.

I've also decided to go with 225/45 ZR17 Front and 255/40/ZR17 on the Rear. This would give speedo difference of +.5% which means 59.7 mph speedo = 60 mph actual. If I go with the 245/40 ZR17s the difference would be +1.6% or 59 mph speedo = 60 mph actual.


Thanks for the compliments

With that tire size in the rear you *may* need coil overs, depending on offset of the wheel. Might want to look into it just in case.

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How do you like the new wheels?




I love the way they look, but unfortunately I don't know how they feel yet with the new rubber. I'm back at school away from my car again until the end of April. Even for the pictures all I could do is mount one wheel.

The weather around here is getting a lot nicer again, we're averaging temps above 0! Spring is in the air and I'm itching to get back to my car and work on it!

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Great Project!

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Thanks

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Latest news is that I won a PFF award! I guess some people were nominating cars in the off topic section and I happened to win gold for the notchbacks!



First I'd like to thank God, and my family for all of their support.... alright alright I'll save you guys the speech.

Thanks to those of you who voted though!

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Congrats, dude.

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Latest news is that I won a PFF award! I guess some people were nominating cars in the off topic section and I happened to win gold for the notchbacks!



First I'd like to thank God, and my family for all of their support.... alright alright I'll save you guys the speech.

Thanks to those of you who voted though!


When I saw the voting start, I thought of your notchie first - then the VR6 that Dave built.

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whens it back on the road?

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Thanks guys


It should be back on the road at the end of april after my exams.

The weather is so nice out right now I can't stand not driving it!!

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Report this Post04-08-2010 10:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Just a little side track, I know I haven't updated in a while.

Here's what 500 RWHP looks like:



It's my father's corvette. Got to drive it and it hauls...

And here's what I've been up to lately





Basically a mock up of the main components of a car. It was for a school project designing a steering system. Got a little carried away with modelling the rest.

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Just a little side track, I know I haven't updated in a while.

Here's what 500 RWHP looks like:




Is that a factory supercharger?...know of anyone installing that type in a Fiero?

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Not a factory item.

It's a Vortech charger. He bought it as a whole kit from A&A, comes with everything needed and pretty much bolts on and needs to be tuned obviously. Amazing results for a bolt on kit.

I don't think it would fit a fiero though, at least not the plumbing that comes with the kit. The charger *may* fit in the engine bay though. Comes with upgraded fuel system as well, intercooler, etc. The kit runs around $5500. While he was at it he had the clutch upgraded, bought a pfadt diff brace, and had breathless performance headers/x pipe installed. 503 rwp. I can post the dyno if you'd like, the damn hp curve never stops climbing.

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It looks like a more compact/liteweight unit than the roots type.

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I would say that it is lighter and more compact. No need to buy a new hood or modify it for increased height

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Just purchased aluminum cradle bushings.

Should have them pretty soon

I can't wait to get this suspension together!!!!

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Aluminum cradle bushings just came in... *I think* this is the last of the parts! Sometimes I just get carried away. I buy one upgrade, and then think, "while I'm at it, I might as well do this too..." and then it snow balls.





I'll be home in 4 days! Then the work begins!

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Put the new rims on today! I'll let the pictures speak for themselves!













I also put some two piece rotors on my father's vette! They look great, but one of them squeels. Not so happy about that right now.







Wheels have to come off again tomorrow on both cars. Hopefully a productive day!

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Lookin' great!! They turned out really good.

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Thanks, more to come soon! The front suspension is currently in pieces.

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So the front suspension is under way. What a pain.



A bolt or two... or four, always have to break. All of the center bushing bolts for the sway bar snapped off in the frame. Awesome.

Front lower control arm front bolts are stuck. Going to have to cut those. I'm frustrated.

So here's the list of whats being done to the front.

Inner tie rods
Outer tie rods
Upper and Lower Ball Joints.
Addco front sway bar
Poly Bushings

Here's whats already been done

Eibach lowering springs cut one half coil
11.25" brake swap

Wish me luck with getting this stuff apart!

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Love what you did whit the wheels and the whole fiero of yours for that matter Hope the parts goes easier for you to put them back in

Rob

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Nice job. The wheels look great.

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Thanks for the compliments guys. I won the war on the lower control arms today. Lost against the broken off bolts in the frame for the front sway bar. This crap never gets easier. Try again tomorrow.

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Lower control arm out, and in the process of replacing the parts. Tomorrow I will press the new bushings in, and get the old ones out, same with the lower ball joints.

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The wheels rock. The car looks tough in a "no frills" kind of way. I think that's why it's one of my favorites.

Good luck with the front suspension. Mine took some serious patience, but it will work out.

BTW,
The Vette brake squeal may be because of the anti-rust coating they put on two-piece rotors. My Wilwood discs squealed like crazy until I wore off the anti-rust coat.

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Thanks for the compliments Clay, I'm sure you enjoy your wheels as well. They look great on fieros!

The suspension is testing my patience. Just a lot of stuff thats stuck or broken off that gets on my nerves.

As for the vette brakes, the rotor was contacting the stock caliper bracket. I had to space the baer bracket inward so that the rotor had proper clearance. It was strange it was only necessary on the passenger side and not the driver side as well.

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More progress today.

Got the rubber bushings burnt/drilled out. Installed the new poly in the upper arms. Also installed the ball joints in the upper arms and used my new upper control arm bolts to install the upper arms.



At least something went back in without a fight.

Also painted up the rotor "hats" so that they will match the black wheels.



Tomorrow maybe I'll paint the springs silver to match my rear coil over springs, as well as get the lower ball joints pressed in. Get the poly in the lower arms too and pick up the new hardware for the arms. I thought they would come in today, but no such luck. Until tomorrow...

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Big job. Broken bolts not very fun.

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Nice work man! I love the Enkei wheels. I like the red and black theme too. You will love the handling difference after the new suspension bits. The aluminum cradle bushings will really help firm up the rear-end.

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nice shot



Slowly but surely... IT'S WORTH IT. I PROMISE

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Thanks for the encouragement everyone.

Today I got most of the front suspension back together. Painted the springs silver to match the new rear ones. Got the lower control arms in with the new ball joints and poly. Only thing left to do on the front is get the sway bar in. I think I'll leave that for a local shop to do. The bolts are being impossible and at this point I'd rather let someone else deal with it. I'll get some pictures tomorrow of the whole thing.

Tomorrow the rear disassembly begins. I'm praying for better luck than the front! Especially with those cradle bushings.

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On my Fiero, the rear suspension went a lot easier than the front. Actually, it took about half the time. Hopefully, yours will be the same.

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Thanks Blacktree. I just started to take some of the rear apart today and so far so good. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

This is how the front tuned out:



Minus the front sway bar of course.

Also was able to snap a better shot of the home made front mount battery box I made a couple years ago:



And lastly, the new challenge:



It will be getting the same poly treatment as the front, DIY coil overs, aluminum cradle bushings, new inner/outter tie rods, new lower ball joints, and fierostore sway bar. Wish me luck!

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Yeah DoubleC4, the results will be totally worth it. It really will solidify the driving experience, and suprise a few folks on the twisties as you leave them staring at your tailights.

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Thanks Tony, I took some more parts off today and I wonder how this thing ever drove straight. My rear inner tie rods were worn to sh*t. The new ones from Rodney are much, much better.

So here's what I got done today,

removed the rear inner/outer tie rods and replaced them
got the springs seperated from the struts
got the lower control arm off that was seized up. Replaced the lower ball joints, and got the new poly in.
removed the A/C compressor and replaced it with the ZZP A/C delete pulley







I did also find two suprises I wasn't expecting. First, my exhaust on the rear bank has more than a hole in it. The pipe is actually broken right off. That would explain my loud exhaust. Second, my sleeves don't fit over the strut body for the coil overs. I'm pretty pissed off about both of these things but I'll figure something out. This thing is definitely a money pit.

Tomorrow I want to get my side scoops on while everything is out of the way, and get the aluminum cradle bushings in. Good luck wishes are in order again

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Another fun filled fiero day.

Got the aluminum cradle bushings installed as I hoped. It was a ton of fun (sarcasm). I'm tired of working on the ground all of the time. I really wish I had a hoist.
The front bushings didnt want to give up the ghost. They fought right until the end but eventually came out. Then of course lining the cradle back up was fun. Didn't just swing back into place as I had hoped. I had to pry it forward to get it to line up.

Then came the rear bushings. They came out a lot easier, but didn't go back in quite as easy. Again, lining things up was a b*tch. I was laying on the ground kicking the cradle with two feet at once trying to get it to move over so the holes would line up for the bolts. Eventually got them after abusing the fiero. Not cool.

Here they are



These things better make a huge difference for all of that trouble.

Also managed to put the coil overs together. I had to take them to the machine shop to get the sleeves bored out because they wouldn't fit over the strut body. But alas, they are together and ready to bolt back in the car.





QA1 12" 350# springs
5" sleeves
HELD upper spring locater
KYB struts

Despite the productive day, there was, of course, a minor set back. My dog bone mount broke. Its still hanging on by one side, but the other side needs a weld now. *sigh*

Tomorrow I'm putting everything back together and hopefully getting around to the scoops as well.

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