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#\ *doublec4* /# Official Build Thread by doublec4
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Report this Post09-05-2009 07:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Today I put my fiero away for the winter. I'm moving back to school tomorrow. As I was washing it before storing it, I noticed the paint cracking off one of my rims... upon closer inspection, it looks like one of them is %^(&%*'ing cracked. An entire spoke is cracked. Wtf.

Looks like new rims may be on their way sooner than I thought.

If anybody know of 17inch Enkei RPF1's for sale in black, let me know!

I think I like this look:

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Originally posted by doublec4:

Amida, my best guess for the chin spoiler layup is about 3-4 mm thick.



That's what I figured. I probably would not go any thicker than 3/16". If anything I'll just fill it with a foam core if requested.
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Report this Post09-16-2009 12:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
More parts arrived today, and more are expected soon. Going with the suspension rebuild theme, I have some coil over sleeves and collars that I scored on ebay super cheap. It doesn't look like these are the crappy made in china pieces for civics. They are pretty beefy and the threads are really thick as well. Best of all, I got them for 25 bucks free shipping (they are slightly used. Only some very minor scratches on them). They also came with a plastic type of spring locater for the top of the strut it seems, some O rings that I don't know where they go, and the set screws and allen keys.

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I also have the metal/poly spring retainers (for the top of the strut mounting plate) on the way from Held motorsports. I just need to find some springs to go with. I can't decide between 325# or 350# for the spring rate... hmm...

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Report this Post09-16-2009 09:00 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AmidaClick Here to Email AmidaSend a Private Message to AmidaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I think the stock spring rate is about 250lbs. I heard that 400lbs was a pretty rough ride.
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Report this Post09-16-2009 09:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I don't think I would venture as high as 400#, I just can't decide between 325# and 350# for my 3800SC 4spd manual set up... hmm, I'm running KYB's so I don't want to put too high of a spring rate either.. if I had Koni's I wouldn't worry too much..
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I don't think I would venture as high as 400#, I just can't decide between 325# and 350# for my 3800SC 4spd manual set up... hmm, I'm running KYB's so I don't want to put too high of a spring rate either.. if I had Koni's I wouldn't worry too much..


That is the one problem I had with my coil overs. I am running the KYB struts and the spring perch has a hump in the middle. This does not allow the coil over sleeve to sit flush. I actually had to machine steel rings to create an even surface for the sleeve to sit. Let me know how you end up doing this. I think the rubber rings slide inside the sleeve to help center it on the strut.....I think....
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Originally posted by IMSA GT:


That is the one problem I had with my coil overs. I am running the KYB struts and the spring perch has a hump in the middle. This does not allow the coil over sleeve to sit flush. I actually had to machine steel rings to create an even surface for the sleeve to sit. Let me know how you end up doing this. I think the rubber rings slide inside the sleeve to help center it on the strut.....I think....


Did you grind off the regular perch or are you using short springs, and your threaded sleeve is resting on the original perch still?

I will be grinding off the original perch, and having the sleeve sit at the bottom of the strut. I will be using 12 inch springs.
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Did you grind off the regular perch or are you using short springs, and your threaded sleeve is resting on the original perch still?

I will be grinding off the original perch, and having the sleeve sit at the bottom of the strut. I will be using 12 inch springs.


Oh ok, I am using short springs so I have to leave on some of the original perch.
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Report this Post09-17-2009 10:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Sounds good, let me know how it turns out

I was just messing around in photoshop.... here's how I want it to look next summer with the new rims and my side scoops installed:

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They definitely flow with the look of the car.

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Originally posted by kyunderdawg:

They definitely flow with the look of the car.



Thanks, now I just have to drop some serious cash on them lol
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Report this Post09-28-2009 10:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Well I went ahead and bought the rims. Found what I was looking for pretty cheap actually so I'm happy about it. Now just to find some tires... pics to follow tomorrow
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Report this Post09-30-2009 12:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I got a couple new things to post, I got my upper strut mounts for my DIY coil overs from Held Motorsports:



And finally, I got my new rims, 17 inch Enkei RPF1

They're black with a machined lip, but I plan on getting them painted with a red lip to match the photoshop I did up there ^^

Check it out!





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Are Enkeis supposed to be lighter than other brands? They're about $450 each new at Wheelmax.
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Are Enkeis supposed to be lighter than other brands? They're about $450 each new at Wheelmax.


They;re supposed to be around 16 pounds per rim... I got mine used for a HELL of a deal..

I'm going to get the lip painted to look like this:

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Report this Post10-01-2009 08:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AmidaClick Here to Email AmidaSend a Private Message to AmidaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
What is the weight of a stock GT wheel ?
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Not really sure, a long time ago I used to have the old "tech" rims but I have no idea how much even those weigh.
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jgrotzin weighed some for me a while back.

 
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Ok, I know I'm late to the party but I weighed the 88 "rear" lace rim which looks nearly identical to the 86-87 lace rims and it was about 17lbs even....

I did weigh an 87 lace rim with a "maypop" on it and it weighed in at 36lbs, so 19 for the tire. Sounds about right. Hopefully this helps.

I might be wrong about the 88 rear and 86-87 lace rims, but just trying to help...


http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/097733.html

hope that helps
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Thanks for the info, considering I moved up to a 17inch rim, I did pretty good for the weight.
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Report this Post10-05-2009 12:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Click Here to Email doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Latest update, I'm on the search for some 225/50/17 series tires for a bargain price. If anybody has anything, let me know please. In other news, I made a new sig..

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Report this Post10-06-2009 12:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GoldenfootClick Here to Email GoldenfootSend a Private Message to GoldenfootEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Try www. Tireseasy.com. I have purchased 2 sets from them and have no complaints! Good luck on your search!

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I was totally stoked with www.tirerack.com
Not sure about customs though...


Edit to say: By the way, what a great thread to follow. Thanks for all of the documentation and what a beautiful car you have!

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Thanks for the compliments and suggestions guys

I was able to make it home for the thanksgiving weekend (Canadian) and I was able to bring a rim home for the test fit and some pictures. Unfortunately there are no tires on the rims yet, so you have to use your imagination:







I also ordered some red pre cut vinyl for the rim lip off ebay. I'm not a big fan of this chrome. The vinyl is much cheaper than having the lip painted. I've been quoted 80 bucks PER RIM to just paint the lip. For some people thats not a bad price, but for me its a lot. Student bills really suck, but I guess they're the priority.

I was also able to test fit the diffuser more. I had it sitting in place and snapped some pictures of that as well. If everything comes together, I may have another member on the forum here helping me out with this piece It could turn out realllly nice!







Enjoy!
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Report this Post10-12-2009 10:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SamohtneasClick Here to Email SamohtneasSend a Private Message to SamohtneasEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
It just keeps getting better and better every time I see it! I like the new wheels too, but does this mean those old MR7's will be up for sale a bit earlier than spring time? :P

Also liking the diffuser!
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Thanks for the compliments! The MR7 wheels will be up for sale in the spring, but I think I mentioned previously that one of the spokes is cracked in one of the rims.

I can't wait for more progress ! I'll update soon
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doublec4, were you by chance in Wixom, Michigan a month or two ago? I could have swore I passed your car leaving work one day. It was a red on black notchie with black wheels, chin spoiler and a IMSA wing, just like yours. Ontario isn't that far away so I figure maybe it was you.

Beautiful car BTW. I hope mine looks half as nice some day .

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doublec4, were you by chance in Wixom, Michigan a month or two ago? I could have swore I passed your car leaving work one day. It was a red on black notchie with black wheels, chin spoiler and a IMSA wing, just like yours. Ontario isn't that far away so I figure maybe it was you.

Beautiful car BTW. I hope mine looks half as nice some day .



I was in Michigan a couple months ago, but I didn't bring my car. Must be somebody else out there with similar taste

Thanks for the compliments on the car though!

I've been playing around with photoshop a little more, and came up with a few renderings of possibilities for the diffuser:





Lots of plans, good thing I have all winter to get it all to come together!
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They;re supposed to be around 16 pounds per rim... I got mine used for a HELL of a deal..

I'm going to get the lip painted to look like this:





So what looks better? Your Fiero with the rims, or you wearing your fluffy high heals?
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So what looks better? Your Fiero with the rims, or you wearing your fluffy high heals?


hahhahah yep you caught me, I'm a cross dresser! kidding lol, the girlfriend likes to leave her stuff all over my room.
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On this pic.....the opening under the lisence plate.....is that going to be an exhaust opening? If so,

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On this pic.....the opening under the lisence plate.....is that going to be an exhaust opening? If so,


Right now I'm just messing around with ideas, but it won't be an exhaust opening. I think it would be too much work to route the exhaust there, although it would be really cool. Maybe it will just vent heat from the muffler instead.
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Still loving this car every step of the way!

Questions about your suspension: Just how small is the gap between your rear wheels and the well? I have lowering springs as well on my car but I have no idea what exact amount my car has been lowered.. did the Eibachs make the rear that close, did you cut them like the front? Or is it just the size of your wheels/tires making it look that way?

Other then that, just wait until you get that poly and sway bars on.. Way too much fun, these cars.
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The rear was lowered with eibach springs but they were not cut. The rear tires and rims aren't a ridiculously big size or anything, I think 225/50/16 if I can recall correctly. I will actually be going to a taller rim/tire combination in the rear with the new wheels. It will give me slightly more ground clearance while eliminating even more wheel well gap. Thanks
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Wheel update:

The red adhesive vinyl lips came in today. Much cheaper alternative to painting the lip in the meantime. Still on the look out for some tires locally!

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Here's a couple shots of one of the decals applied. I don't want to put them all on before the tires are installed (shop might mess them up). So I put one of the spares on to see how it would fit and look.







I think they will look pretty good overall once it is complete.
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where did you get those red vinyl lips at? they look good
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I purchased them off ebay. Shinegrfx I think was the seller... you can order them in a custom width.
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Looking good, I love the RPF1s and the diffuser. I am waiting to see how it turns out.
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HI all

The Brembo stickers on yur calipers, are they the WCF 12" brembo kit, or stickers?

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Thanks guys

The brembo is just a decal. When I redo the suspension in the spring, I'm going to replace those with IMSA decals. The brake swap is the 11.25 inch lebaron swap.
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