I will reconsider refinishing delaminated tails. The new price is going to be around $300ish.
Tony, if you have the time to do this, I would highly suggest it. I have turned people down left and right because I simply do not have the time to do these any more. I'm sure everyone would benefit from your service.
Tony, if you have the time to do this, I would highly suggest it. I have turned people down left and right because I simply do not have the time to do these any more. I'm sure everyone would benefit from your service.
lol, sorry Fireboss, I dropped him a PM on the day he posted it, even referenced IMSA's thread and about my discussion with him to see if he would do it.
lol, sorry Fireboss, I dropped him a PM on the day he posted it, even referenced IMSA's thread and about my discussion with him to see if he would do it.
Probably not the best thread for this, but I will be doing this again. I am working on a jig so that I can work on the lenses easier. Later today I will dust off the light table. Be patient. I will follow through. Thanks for the interest.
There's that familiar bait scent in the air again....
I agree 100%. If this person was truly going to do this, this person's first post in this topic (after all the negative things we have posted about this person) should include some pictures/proof. As always in the past, nothing.
As I said in an earlier post: Post some pictures to show us this is in fact real.
------------------ Rodney Dickman
Fiero Parts And Acc's Web Page: All new web page!:www.rodneydickman.com Rodney Dickman's Fiero accessories 7604 Treeview Drive Caledonia, WI 53108 Phone/Fax (262) 835-9575
I agree 100%. If this person was truly going to do this, this person's first post in this topic (after all the negative things we have posted about this person) should include some pictures/proof. As always in the past, nothing.
As I said in an earlier post: Post some pictures to show us this is in fact real.
As Always Rodney is 'spot on". I noticed he used the word "negative". Let me see--- how would I rate someone who appears to have used this forum to raise hopes of many members in need of critical replacement parts they said they were going to produce, never provided any proof, and seems to have done this for sh*t's and giggles? And now appears to coming back again to rub our collectives noses in it. I have three choices -positive - neutral - negative ----- Let me think this over.........
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Here we go again ! I'd like to pre pay for my new lenses Slammed. Send me your address and I'll put a few thousand dollars in an envelope and send it to you. You can ship me my new lenses when you feel like it. Ya Right ! Just go away.
As I said in an earlier post: Post some pictures to show us this is in fact real.
Here's the difference between a poser and a real vendor with a real business like Rodney: This person responded to skepticism and questions by essentially taking their ball and going home. Rodney has posted about new parts here and has responded thoughtfully about questions and concerns. The latter is how a person running a business behaves, at least if they want to have a successful business.
Still have a big pile of tie rods and ball joints here waiting to go on my car, Rodney...college football season is not helping me whittle down my list of car projects!
After working for a Tier 1 auto supplier, and working with a dozen or so Tier 2 suppliers, the ABSOLUTE, LAST THING I would do, is tell people I have parts for sale, before I had a large inventory in a garage or warehouse somewhere. Especially with parts that are as relatively complicated as Fiero tail lights.
A lot of us really need new tail light lenses... Please don't be pulling our my chain...
Consider your "chain" not just pulled but firmly *jerked*.
Seriously, THINK rationally for a minute.
Someone new joins March 2015, who is *unknown to anyone* here on PFF and their very FIRST ACT is to post a new thread promising a new product that a lot of folks need or want.
1. This individual, does NOT name a business or entity that is supposedly involved in this effort. 2. This individual claims to be employed by this unknown business and tasked to produce this product. 3. This individual refuses to reveal their real name to anyone, even in private. 4. This individual makes vague references to a WOODWORKING equipment supplier and a nationwide retail /wholesale industrial plastics MATERIAL SUPPLIER when pressed for details on the effort. NOTABLY, *engineers* all know that this a plastic INJECTION MOLDED product that *at best* might alternately be produced by thermoforming polycarbonate. (Sorry to you Dreamers, cheap "cast clear urethane" is NOT DURABLE for long term automotive use and environmental exposure in a large lens like this...keep dreaming though....) 5. Progress updates and photos are promised and are routinely NOT forthcoming. 6. Despite claims of a "large company" behind this effort, WHAT logical business would spend large amounts of capital, (time and $) to produce a product for such a LIMITED and DWINDLING market as Fiero GT taillight lenses? TFS provided the lenses because THE GM TOOLING ALREADY EXISTED and was economically available to them. 7. WHAT possible motivation would this individual have to "announce" this "product" when they have a. NO INVENTORY TO SELL b. Are not taking any orders c. Admitted to having NO proven successful manufacturing process or even a completed product design! d. Claim to be "sworn to secrecy", despite trumpeting the "new product" on the largest Fiero forum on the internet !!
8. When pressed on credibility the individual then LEAVES and stops all communication 9. After speculation grows again the (apparently same) individual resurfaces in a single post and hints at a "NEW THREAD" on the forum! WHY the need for a *new* thread??? 10. The ever-faithful *Dreamers* are once AGAIN stirred up and HOPE is renewed........
I have no idea where, (or when) this strange saga is going to end. What I do know is that the whole story has holes in it big enough to drive a FedEx truck through. (Pun INTENDED)
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I still don't see what the big deal is. It has absolutely no impact on me either way. If they show up I'll buy a set otherwise who cares. People here are acting like they just lost tens of thousands of dollars after investing in a business that turns out to be a scam.... No one was forced to spend money. No one was forced to post in this thread.
It's the internet equivalent of someone liking to hear the sound of their own voice. I know I recently joined this forum, but I've done a LOT of reading both of current and archived threads, and there's a recurring theme. Whenever someone posts a new idea there is ALWAYS someone who promptly comes along to tell them why they can't do it. There are several "usual suspects" in this, and they are present in this thread as well as others. They contribute nothing but negativity to this board, and do nothing but discourage someone from giving it a shot. If someone is on the fence as to whether to pursue a project, they sure better not come to this board for support. There are some guys here would talk someone out of heading in to cash a winning lottery ticket.
With that said-- is Slammed a troll? Maybe, maybe not. She certainly has failed to deliver on her somewhat dubious claims, but seeing how there isn't a "haha got you!" post from her as of yet, we don't know for sure. Who knows, maybe everything she has posted is true, but the process has run into further complications and she knew that posting here would just add fuel to the fire. Given what we've seen so far, it's unlikely, but not out of the realm of possibilities. What I do know is that she never took anyone's money, never claimed to have an actual product, and never did any actual harm to the community aside from maybe putting a few overly sensitive individuals onto an emotional roller coaster.
It's the internet equivalent of someone liking to hear the sound of their own voice. I know I recently joined this forum, but I've done a LOT of reading both of current and archived threads, and there's a recurring theme. Whenever someone posts a new idea there is ALWAYS someone who promptly comes along to tell them why they can't do it. There are several "usual suspects" in this, and they are present in this thread as well as others. They contribute nothing but negativity to this board, and do nothing but discourage someone from giving it a shot. If someone is on the fence as to whether to pursue a project, they sure better not come to this board for support. There are some guys here would talk someone out of heading in to cash a winning lottery ticket.
With that said-- is Slammed a troll? Maybe, maybe not. She certainly has failed to deliver on her somewhat dubious claims, but seeing how there isn't a "haha got you!" post from her as of yet, we don't know for sure. Who knows, maybe everything she has posted is true, but the process has run into further complications and she knew that posting here would just add fuel to the fire. Given what we've seen so far, it's unlikely, but not out of the realm of possibilities. What I do know is that she never took anyone's money, never claimed to have an actual product, and never did any actual harm to the community aside from maybe putting a few overly sensitive individuals onto an emotional roller coaster.
Best move would be to let this thread die.
For the record, I waited nearly 5 MONTHS, watching quietly as this thread went along before I even first posted, so if your "promptly comes along to tell them why they can't do it" is in any way directed at me...please, just save your critical efforts.
In point of fact, "slammed" DID claim to have a product, right at the very outset on the first post on April 20, 2015
I also note that you just joined last month. Welcome! Sincerely, Welcome!
I only mention your just joining because many of us that have been here awhile have seen many scams and hoaxes here on PFF over the years, and in my opinion each of them DOES do actual harm to this community. You're seeing some of that harm right here in this thread. Every time another one of these comes along many members become that much more suspicious of the next potential vendor. More and more "interrogations" and demands for "proof" of the new product are made. Can't say that I can much blame folks for that though, considering some of the outright criminal things that have happened in the past. More harm is also done to the overall credibility of the Fiero community as a whole. It starts to look like a continual "parade" of scammers and "low-buck dreamers".
Let me also say that *cautioning* about the TECHNICAL CHALLENGES, like I did in response to you in the Tech section , (which is also my 1st and ONLY post in that thread), is certainly NOT "someone who promptly comes along to tell them why they can't do it" or " nothing but discourage someone from giving it a shot". It's called being REALISTIC and offering you the benefit of EXPERIENCE and KNOWLEDGE. I have worked as a GM Licensee on aftermarket products, My father was a GM engineer, I also worked at GM as an engineer and I am very familiar with the company's past engineering, design and manufacturing practices.
Other than all that.......dream on
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... I have worked as a GM Licensee on aftermarket products, My father was a GM engineer, I also worked at GM as an engineer and I am very familiar with the company's past engineering, design and manufacturing practices.
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Hey Randye,
I read (and posted to) Napoleon's other thread before I saw your post here -- do you still know anyone at GM that could find out about those master blocks you were mentioning?
I read (and posted to) Napoleon's other thread before I saw your post here -- do you still know anyone at GM that could find out about those master blocks you were mentioning?
Answered in the other thread. I don't want to "muck up" this thread with that discussion...not that it could actually hurt THIS thread anyway.
I read (and posted to) Napoleon's other thread before I saw your post here -- do you still know anyone at GM that could find out about those master blocks you were mentioning?
Fiero Store had them. Business that had the dies are gone. Scrapped. Gone.....
Fiero Store had them. Business that had the dies are gone. Scrapped. Gone.....
Thank you, I was aware of the fate of the dies, but that wasn't what I was referring to. According to Randye, the process for making the dies includes making master blocks, so... the part before the dies. He had advised another member who was asking GM about the technical drawings to also ask if they still had those blocks.
Well, I`ll say one thing about this. And I`m not dissing engineers as both of my sons are. I think we can all agree that if anyone told Hulki that his little car wouldn`t work we are sure glad he didn`t listen.
Well you're in luck! I am about to receive the sum of $54M from the late Nigerian Prince's widow for helping her bring her money to the U.S. I know, can you believe it that she would trust me with all that money? Well, it's because I'm such a good christian that she trusts me enough to gift me that money. So I'll be sending you a check in the mail for 100 times what you paid.
Maybe what I just saw on a TV program will give some insight into why quarter windows and tail light lenses haven't been produced. The quarter windows can be produced from flat sheeting, but for a moment let's assume that the lenses would need to be injection molded, given the sealing surfaces and the tabs that lock the lens onto the main body of the tail light.
How It's Made was showing how Kayak Paddles were made. The shaft of the paddle was made from carbon fiber, but they didn't mention the cost of that. They began by showing the production of the injection mold for the blades of the paddle. They made mention that the mold alone cost at least $100,000 dollars to produce. I feel that's a little exorbitant, having some knowledge of molds and injection molding, but that's the price they stated.
I have been closely associated to Sewell Plastics (my surname) who produced the Coca-Cola plastic bottles and other blow-molded and injection molded products, and Panduit Corporation who produced various injection molded plastics. There were always at least 1 spare mold on hand and when the current production mold wore out or broke, a backup was placed in the production line and a new backup mold was produced.
Personally, I hope these lenses become a reality, produced by whomever, even if they aren't perfect. But unless someone has some or all of the original tooling, I don't see how anyone can possible afford the production costs.
The whole thing was handled wrong. We are a machine shop, this was out of our realm, trying to market a product and get hype... It was dumb
I will be posting an update later this week with pictures. Detailed pictures showing what they look like, the back side of the lense and them absolutely clear with no lettering or shading. Small details made this more difficult than we first were hoping. I check the PMs every day if any of you have any questions.
After the update, I will post all the information about me, the shop, where we are and how you can contact us. Everything.
Please, keep it civil. I have read through all the posts and even more posts about the horrible stuff that has happened on here. I get it.
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... I call first dibs.....
No one was forced to spend money. No one was forced to post in this thread.
