What a jerk, even if it is true theres no reason he couldn't have let people know. Oh his PC was stolen too I suppose. Drive to a cafe/library/campus and use a PC and let people know.
Nice to see all the wonderful things people are saying about me. Believe whatever you want, makes no difference to me, things can't get much worse. They are all getting they're refunds, I just need to sort out funds and whatnot. I did spend quite a bit on materials so I have to make up for that.
Nice to see all the wonderful things people are saying about me. Believe whatever you want, makes no difference to me, things can't get much worse. They are all getting they're refunds, I just need to sort out funds and whatnot. I did spend quite a bit on materials so I have to make up for that.
what do you expect people to think? you haven't communicated in days. you said the seats were made and sent out. you provided no tracking numbers. then the story is you were robbed and they took the covers that were already sent out?
there are two things people will not stand: a thief and a liar. why don't you just tell everyone the truth. it might save you any credibility you have left.
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TXGOOD Member
Posts: 5410 From: Austin, Texas Registered: Feb 2006
Trots, I didn`t base my decision on buying these covers from his age. There are lots of young people who have it together. I did a search on previous posts where he had pictures of an engine swap he had done and I saw pictures of a seat cover he had stitched so I wasn`t too worried about his ability to do it. They were reasonably priced compared to others out there and personally I would rather not have leather if I have another choice.
I have my own apartment bud. What happened is that my girlfriend picked my seats up tuesday morning and sometime between when I left for work and when she got home later that night, 3 boys from my community college came and took everything including my Formula. One of the boys used to be a good friend of mine and told me and the police all about what they were and had done and said they had planned on going to Vancouver (Canada) for spring break. I have police reports and If I can get a scanner to bring here to the shop I can post them. Eventually I will get my stuff back and you guys can just have the seats if I do, but they all will be getting a refund for now. Just need a bit of time to get money together.
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Posts: 3919 From: Monterey, CA Registered: Feb 2007
Ridezelighting, I do feel sorry for you. Things like that can happen I guess. But in the internet world the most important thing to have is your credibility!!! If your credibility, peace of mind, karma, etc. is important to you I strongly suggest the following:
* ) Step one: Refund all the money that was sent do you ASAP. (Take out a loan, or borrow from parents/relatives if you have to. It's much cheaper in the long run.) (I think you''re already doing that, but I wanted to make a complete list) * ) Post the detailed police report, that I'm sure you have to had filed by now. (people want to know what happened) * ) Take pictures of the damage that was done. * ) Post a picture of the report that you signed that everything has been returned to you. (I hope you got lucky and it has) * ) I recommend filing a small claims suit against whoever stole your stuff (probably on top of criminal charges) and post it to this thread (blur out the names if you have to by law. I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know the procedure) (theft is not a laughing matter) * ) If you get the seat covers back, (I'm not quite sure where they are, shipped, or at girlfriends, explanation is a bit unclear to me of what happened) mail them out to each person that has ordered a seat and gave you money for them already, free of charge. If you can't get them back, just make new ones and send them, free of charge. - No promises, just mail them when you're ready. - I'm sure people will be able to forgive you then. Fiero owners are like an extended family. You'll be surprised how much support you'll get from them if you treat them as such. * ) I'm sure then your peace of mind will be restored, as well as your credibility.
Yes, I know this is expensive, labor intensive, you might have to eat the cost on a few seats, materials, etc. But trust me, if you want any credibility and be at peace with yourself, that's a good course of action. In business, customer service is king. It's what separates the average companies from the best companies that people want to do business with. Help out your customers as much as you possibly can and they will reward you with their respect, and viral marketing (=fancy term for "word of mouth" basically the best form of marketing for online business'es) I really want you to succeed in life and on this board. We need all the aftermarket support we can get for our lovely Fieros. People here want choice, and love to support the underdog and startups.
Very interesting thread. Took me an hour to go through it all. Bump to keep this in the spotlight.
Hope everything works out - for everyone.
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every time i see mr mike's seats it makes me want to work some more overtime .they are absolutely flawless. reading this thread reminds me of the kid whos dog ate his homework .every week.
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Posts: 3919 From: Monterey, CA Registered: Feb 2007
every time i see mr mike's seats it makes me want to work some more overtime .they are absolutely flawless. reading this thread reminds me of the kid whos dog ate his homework .every week.
Hey, dogs do eat homework!! I had picture proof when I was younger. (Granted, I've actually purposely fed him the papers, but that's another funny story.. ) ...anyways.
Mr Mikes seats are awesome, and I do love his customer service. I just wish I could afford them.
Leather/Suede seats would be even better with high foam (instead of cotton and ducktape) bolsters to hold better in the seat during hard cornering and give the Fiero a more modern sports car "hugging" seat feel. *dreaming*
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MrMike Member
Posts: 153 From: Sarasota, FL, USA Registered: Jan 2002
I have had no explaination my last private message still states he was sending it out which i dont think will really be coming. Have you opened a dispute with paypal? It will take 20 days before anything will happen.
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Posts: 4543 From: Martinez, Ga, USA Registered: Oct 1999
This thread reminds me of one that was in the Mall way back when, a guy who was recovering steering wheels and visors if memory serves.
Hope things work out for all involved.
i got my steering wheel from that guy, it looks so awsome, that i never put it on the car, im afraid id get it dirty, (its a tan steering wheel) ill install it when/if that car goes to a car show, but otherwise im leaving my 3 spoke 84 steering wheel on it till then.
matthew
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twocoda Member
Posts: 159 From: Port Elgin,Ontario,Canada Registered: Feb 2006
i got my steering wheel from that guy, it looks so awsome, that i never put it on the car, im afraid id get it dirty, (its a tan steering wheel) ill install it when/if that car goes to a car show, but otherwise im leaving my 3 spoke 84 steering wheel on it till then.
matthew
The guys work looked awsome, I think his downfall was promising to much to quickly. If I remember correctly he started accepting visors and wheels to recover and then a backlash occured when he couldn't deliver in a timely manner. I think he would have been okay if he just would have been upfront and said "hey, I'll let you know when I finish what I have now and if you want to still give me your business I'll be glad to accept". It can be hard to turn down advance payment for product or services but sometimes it is better to make a customer wait till the product is available or the time is there to do the work before accepting payment or making a promise to deliver. Stuff happens, and when your already stretched thin and pushing yourself to get things done it doesn't take much to bring the whole train to a screeching halt. It seems like a lot of this has to do with youth and the very confident optimistic attitude that sometimes comes with inexperience. I hope this guy gets everything straightened out, he seems to have found a good niche to fill and how he handles this setback will determine if he can actually fill it.
PS is that guy still doing any recovering or did he get out of it, I don't remember the final outcome.
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TXGOOD Member
Posts: 5410 From: Austin, Texas Registered: Feb 2006
I agree that things happen and plans get changed etc. I don`t mind waiting for anything I order. My beef is that when I PM somebody about something and the progress, I expect a timely answer and throughout this whole ordeal I haven`t gotten that. The three of us who ordered these seat covers have been posting on here and in PMs trying to find out the status of our orders . I don`t think that a persons customers should have to try to get information from each other. I also think that you should not have to depend on your first couple of prepaid orders to fund your business venture. If something unexpected comes up or you get in over your head you should have the capital to refund any monies sent, from your own reserves. I wondered when I first got on this forum why, when a new product was introduced, by a virtual unknown they got so much scrutiny from the members but now I see. Jeez, what ever happend to honesty and openess with ones fellow man. Well, I`m done.
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Posts: 1055 From: Burke, Virginia Registered: Apr 2003
Whew, just read this entire thread. So, I've learned there are some key differences in leather which depends on what cars the leather is used in. Also, that there are specifically automotive leather. I've also learned that Mr. Mikes is as reliable as everyone makes his business out to be. With that said, when I need to replace my seat covers, Mr. Mike is receiving a call from me.
Hope everything gets resolved in the current matter.
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MrMike Member
Posts: 153 From: Sarasota, FL, USA Registered: Jan 2002
Mr Mike, I guess I should have looked at your site better or asked you when I ordered my vinyl because I had no idea you did seats in something other than leather. If I had ordered the leatherette from you I would already have my seats covered. I most likely will be ordering some today or early next week.
Yep, I think so. I can't wait to hear from RidezeLightning to bring the thread back to topic.
Although I'm very glad that Mr. Mike offers a low cost alternative now. I know it will help out a lot of Fiero owners/Fiero seat lovers.
I went to a local car upholstery place that would make me custom leather seats, and even increase the side bolsters out of stiff foam. Although he doesn't recommend adding more than an inch of lateral support, as he thinks that would make it hard to get into the car, he could do almost any height. Too bad being located in Monterey makes them so expensive. $700-$800 bucks for leather, well maybe I can talk him down. -At least I finally found a place that would do my beloved racing seat inspired increased side bolsters. Yay!!!
I'm glad I didn't order those dumb covers off eBay, Mikes new deal looks nice.
Back on topic, has anyone seen any proof of any of this guys claims? Sounds like you've all been hosed . Hopefully your Paypal claims get you a refund, if he had funds in the account of course.
I had picture proof when I was younger. (Granted, I've actually purposely fed him the papers, but that's another funny story.. 
. Hopefully your Paypal claims get you a refund, if he had funds in the account of course.
