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Haus of Guru: The Ultimate Car Build Off by bmwguru
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Since I have been a big fan of the show on the Discovery Channel, and there isn’t a season 2 coming out, I decided to make our next swap more interesting.
Here is the deal:

The car:
1987 GT 5 speed
Two technicians/fabricators
Five days to build the car. January 31st to February 4th

A little history:
This car sat at Loyde’s Fast Fieros in Texas from July 17, 2007 to December 3, 2010 untouched and waiting for the mods we are about to do. Charles (the owner) has been without his baby for a long time and I wanted to show him how the Guru’s team can get this done promptly and accurately.

The build:

Remove the existing stock 3800s/c to turn it into a show quality high horsepower car

The mods:
RD poly mounts
RD upgraded slave cylinder
RD dog bone
4” cold air intake
Guru ported blower case and lower intake manifold
Guru custom pcm tune
Guru custom a/c hose
Guru low mount alternator and dog bone….the existing dog bone mount has been cut out, so we will weld a new one into the Fiero
ZZP 3.25” supercharger pulley
ZZP short stack intercooler using G12 coolant instead of Dexcool….G12 is Volkswagen red coolant. Custom intercooler fill using a Volkswagen coolant reservoir
ZZP front mount water to air heat exchanger
42.5 Lucas injectors
Northstar throttle body
NGK TR6 spark plugs
XP Hot cam with 105lb springs and timing chain
Vens Autosports 304 stainless steel headers….fabricated by Ryan who works for me full time. These headers are custom made for the 3800 into the Fiero. They flow better than the aftermarket ones that are not designed for the Fiero chassis. We can make them either drop to the front or back depending on your preference. They use 1 5/8” primary pipe into a 2.5” collector to the Y-pipe. The Y-pipe has a 3” outlet. The complete exhaust will be stainless steel…..a Magnaflow stainless steel muffler and ending with Corvette C6 exhaust tips. To get my approval for these headers, they not only had to flow, the spark plugs had to be easy to service....which is by biggest problem with aftermarket headers.
Headers are ceramic coated and will be fiberglass wrapped and silicone coated then baked with the wrap
Relocate battery to the front trunk with our custom battery low mount battery tray.
Custom engine cooling system fill point with low temp thermostat
Spec stage 3 clutch…..say what you want about Spec, but I have had zero issues with their clutches. I follow the break in procedure to the T.
Wiring harness modifications and tuck
Low mount ignition coil with hidden wires
ZZP return less Billet fuel logs with hidden fuel pressure regulator and AN braided hose
Engine and transmission to be painted
Remove firewall insulation and paint engine bay satin black
Oil service with 5w40 synthetic oil and a Bosch oil filter
Transmission fluid service with Synchromesh

Suspension and chassis mods:
Shortened trunk
Held Motorsports bump steer kit
Koni shocks and struts
Rear coil overs
New front hubs and repack wheel bearings
RD solid cradle bushings

Front lowering springs
New rims and tires
Four wheel alignment

Other mods:
I need to rebuild the passenger side axle with new CV joints
New a/c hard lines from the rear to the front because the last one to work on the car cut and hacked them up.
New passenger side coolant pipe….our initial evaluation showed that it was crushed sometime during it’s life.
Front radiator hoses to be replaced

The fuel:

Two cases of Arizona RX Energy herbal tonic
Sleep MD
Our shop’s gym to pump some iron when we hit the wall
Joey’s homemade chili with some ghost pepper hot sauce
8oz of Boswell’s “Christmas Cookie” pipe tobacco for Dave and “Maple Leaf” for Ryan (Canadian’s love their maple, eh)
A few cases of dark beer for the evenings

The prep: (this is what was done prior to the five day period)
Order every single part down to the nut and bolt to get this swap completed.
Fabricate the stainless steel headers and cross over pipe. Ceramic coat the headers.
Fabricate the low mount alternator bracket for the Grand Prix alternator
Fabricate the thermostat housing

That is about it. Everything else will be done in the week. I have all the shop’s phone calls forwarded to voicemail and the doors will be locked. Tons of pics and videos will be posted.

Here are a few to start this off:



The parts list....yes, that is our gym and kitchen in the background.


The fuel.....


our thermostat housing....


Ryan TIG welding the headers....




Guru low mount alternator bracket....powdercoated too.





Much more to come.......

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What an awesome idea!!! Sure I can't come and spectate for 5 days? Lol

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This really needs to be forwarded to Discovery Channel after you are done! I'll bring my wife's camcorder when I come up in a few weeks.

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How great would it be to involved with this build!

WOO WOO WOO WOO! GO TEAM GURU!

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Wow, good luck!

Thats going to be a hectic 5 days!

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WOW,
now i know you have the ability to get er done...but my question is........
how the heck did you get Loyde to release the HOSTAGE ????
and do you think he will release anymore...lol
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SWEET!!!

Are you going to make up a cool design sketch, like Chip Foose does for the Overhaulin' show?

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Sweet! I really like the things you guys do. Im really glad we got guys like you out there producing some sweet Fieros! Ill be watching this thread as close as all your other builds!

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BTW, I see no mention of music selections, to keep you psyched up. I humbly suggest "1320" by Megadeth, from their Endgame album.

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This is great. Go Haus of Guru!

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Aw man... i wish i had the vacation time from work to come down and watch! Aught to be awesome! How about a pre-insanity set of pics of the car the way it sits?

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Ace, let's just say he realized he had no alternative.

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Ace, let's just say he realized he had no alternative.


Would be nice if the same thing could be done for Will, but I don't want to ruin this thread with talk about that. Good luck Dave, I will be watching very closely!

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You guys are crazy!



Subscribed...

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here are some before pics:









Note the exhaust has been blocked off and is ran towards the front. I'm surprised the KR wasn't through the roof because the exhaust seems to run back into itself before it dumps into the down pipe.


Here are some pics of the header fabrication using a test block and heads:







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This looks like a fun thread

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Would be nice if the same thing could be done for Will, but I don't want to ruin this thread with talk about that. Good luck Dave, I will be watching very closely!


I was going to say the same thing. I hope WIll is reading this, maybe it will motivate him to go get his car.

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Man I like that picture....Good looking headers too...

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Man I like that picture....

Me too, but it has nothing to do with the fact that my car is in it.

Oh, and ten points to anyone who can spot the irony.

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Me too, but it has nothing to do with the fact that my car is in it.

Oh, and ten points to anyone who can spot the irony.



All the car flags, and it's all Pontiacs in the shop. Fiero's anyway.

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I know which one is yours.....

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You guys kill me! Awesome garage! Seriously.

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I think that might be the "act right" stick!

The laptop looks to be a thinkpad... i'm guessing X series. Looks almost like the X60 i sold not too long ago. I restore thinkpads from time to time. Nothing beats the X41T i use daily though.

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Man I like that picture....Good looking headers too...


I agree 110% - All those Audi, Mercedes and VW banners - nothing but Fieros! My new background!

Great Idea and Thread Guru. Good Luck!

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Ace, let's just say he realized he had no alternative.


i like the way you operate. good luck with the build! i'll be watching (and drooling most likely.)

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You guys kill me! Awesome garage! Seriously.

Tony


Tony, you spotted our mascot, Winkie.
I try to pose him in the background of some of the pics just to see if anyone notices. There were only a handful of members that knew I did that until this thread came out.....
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/079932.html
He is also on the welder in the background of the last pic of the headers.

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Thanks for the compliments on the shop. I wish I could have posted the pics when it was cleaner, but with our crazy work week and lots of snow, salt and ice, the shop is a mess. We did wash the one bay that the black GT is in because we were working on a BMW E46 that the owner supplied his own DSC pump and module and we had to put in three before we got one that worked.....so let's just say that there was a lot of brake fluid on the ground.
Normally, you could eat off the floor.

The shop pics were taken at the end of the day. All the German cars that are staying over the next week were locked up outside. The Jetta TDI is inside parked under Alltrbo's car. The other cars are mine.....the orange and black V8, the VR6 Fiero and my gold GT 3800s/c that is getting another 100whp added to it this winter.

I am very excited to start off the week tomorrow.

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You need a Pontiac flag
http://www.bflags.com/pontiacflags.htm

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I should get a Pontiac flag. I finally have my regular customers actually respecting the Fiero. Four years ago, they kinda stuck their nose up about my cars, but either their opinion has changed or I have better customers now.
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Dave, this is great. I am glad to see that things do come back from the dead (or Texas as it were)
keep up the great work.
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See i was right... "Act right" stick. I've noticed that thing in a lot of pics. Just too funny!

Can't wait to see this.

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The 'act right' stick is in the background of this pic too....

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Dave, is this your way of saying my car is going to have "balls".

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I believe that your car will have balls....

Less than two hours until the start of our day. I don't expect to post the pics until tonight....and depending on how the videos come out as well. I'd like to take a video of us dropping the engine out and editing it into one of those "fast play" vids (can't remember the proper name).
My average time to drop a fiero engine from start to finish is an hour, fifteen minutes. With two of us, we should have it out in under 45 minutes.....if no bolts are rusted, stripped or seized.
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Time lapse is what your looking for.

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Sweet~I love these types of builds! Another thread I can follow while on my trip! Guys good luck on the build and I am sure the owner will be uber appreciative since he has run into a few roadbloacks along the way (as I recall).

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Just wanted to toss my two cents in. Great idea and thanks for helping out a fellow in need. You guys are top notch

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Took a video of pulling out the drivetrain. 34 minute long video (not too shabby) with some comedy for the first few minutes. I'll find a way to edit it later and post up a link.
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