It is a sad day when people feel "attacked" by a simple straightforward question.
What I am trying to do is point out how different people define "patriotism". For example the LGBTQ community are often labeled as "Un-American". I fully understand why some people disagree with the beliefs of the LGBTQ community, but I don't see why the issue should be political. Why is fighting for "equal rights" considered "Un-American".
It is because most people are talking about their "cultural beliefs" when they claim to be talking about "politics".
Two things, at no point did I say I was being attacked. Second, absolutely none of this has anything to do with what I said, and you're well aware of this. Again, you're either really lacking in intelligence, or you're intentionally asking stupid questions for the purpose of why you do whatever it is you call this.
I'll give you a hint...
1 - Intentionally trying to keep the border open, and flooding the country with illegals 2 - The state of the world is also falling apart as a result of Biden's ineffectiveness. We've had more embassies evacuated under Biden than any prior president in history: https://www.dailywire.com/n...u-s-president-report 3 - Prioritizing scarce resources towards illegals, above those of actual U.S. citizens 4 - Record inflation 5 - Growing crime, homelessness, and drug addiction... all normalized, justified, and considered "acceptable" by Democrats.
... I mean, his policies are absolute **** ... and Democrats themselves (like you) will go through great lengths in your mind to try to justify all of these totally insane things as "acceptable" or somehow normal. All while ignoring the reality of the situation.
Originally posted by randye: Bullshit (Never allow a Leftist to frame the argument.....any argument)
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Originally posted by BingB: You say this all the time, but I have no idea what it means.
Basically you are saying that you are incapable of engaging a leftist in a debate. The only way you can have a political discussion is in an echo chamber that only contains people who believe the same way you do.
If I am in a discussion and I don't like the way another person "frames" the argument I simply address the issue I have with the way they are trying to frame it. I never resort to just running away. I am capable of "framing" my own response any way I wish.
You are a not being honest.
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Originally posted by BingB: What I am trying to do is point out how different people define "patriotism". For example the LGBTQ community are often labeled as "Un-American".
5 - Growing crime, homelessness, and drug addiction... all normalized, justified, and considered "acceptable" by Democrats.
No Democrat has ever said these things were "acceptable". You are just making stuff up out of thin air. The only people who talk like this live in a bubble where they are exposed to nothing but right-wing propaganda.
The passages Erickson endorsed included Hice's claim that “the homosexual movement is ... destroying America by aggressively seeking to destroy traditional families, religion, and marriages for the purpose of removing all societal moral boundaries”:
Bing is Fred. Why would anyone expect him/her to be honest about anything?
has there ever been an honest conservative talking head on any conservative tv news network ever ?
if we go back to the nazi father in the 30's [Who was father Charles Coughlin ? Father Charles Coughlin (1891-1979) was a Roman Catholic priest and radio personality. Coughlin was ordained in Detroit in 1923 after briefly considering a career in politics. In 1926, he began broadcasting his sermons and lectures on a local radio station. ] and major hitler fan
then we had several others inc mc carthy on the tv but also in the senate lies and more lies his specialty before tuck there was rush who lied for any nut con cause
so back to the question any HONEST TALKING HEAD ON THE NUT CON SIDE EVER ?
OR WHY DO YOU GUYS LOVE TO BE LIED TO ? REALLY WANT TO KNOW !! TRUTH HAS NO PLACE IN THE RIGHTWING UNIVERSE
THE LYING RUMP IS NO EXCEPTION HE IS THE RULE FOR TODAYS Gop
has there ever been an honest conservative talking head on any conservative tv news network ever ?
if we go back to the nazi father in the 30's [Who was father Charles Coughlin ? Father Charles Coughlin (1891-1979) was a Roman Catholic priest and radio personality. Coughlin was ordained in Detroit in 1923 after briefly considering a career in politics. In 1926, he began broadcasting his sermons and lectures on a local radio station. ] and major hitler fan
then we had several others inc mc carthy on the tv but also in the senate lies and more lies his specialty before tuck there was rush who lied for any nut con cause
so back to the question any HONEST TALKING HEAD ON THE NUT CON SIDE EVER ?
OR WHY DO YOU GUYS LOVE TO BE LIED TO ? REALLY WANT TO KNOW !! TRUTH HAS NO PLACE IN THE RIGHTWING UNIVERSE
THE LYING RUMP IS NO EXCEPTION HE IS THE RULE FOR TODAYS Gop
They canceled the circus a few years ago, and ever since then, the internet has been inundated with unemployed clowns.
Read the title of the thread. Your question has already been answered.
You and Fred keep asking the same questions, over and over. Are you guys entities related to AOC?
you guys want to expose the forum to lies from know lying scum like tucker the putin fan
why
with out any excuse
once they get FIRED FROM FOX for lying why post more lies from them
and any darn to claim a rightwing truth teller
I like barry AuH2O esp when he late in life became disgusted with the christian right and said who why when and where they were very very WRONG after that most crickets they never notice the lies by others on the right EVEN THE RUMP WHO SELDOM TELLS ANY TRUTH THE MASS OF THE Gop PARTY NEVER NOTICES
No Democrat has ever said these things were "acceptable". You are just making stuff up out of thin air. The only people who talk like this live in a bubble where they are exposed to nothing but right-wing propaganda.
Fred, I'm not going to go down some weird path with you here... but it's FACT that Joe Biden is doing absolutely everything he can to bring as many illegals into this country. How can you even begin to say otherwise? He's literally welded border gates OPEN so that they cannot be closed. Border patrol is being instructed to help illegals get across, process them, and set them free with court dates that are a decade away. The people funding the illegals is both the Open Borders Society, and other organizations, whom are directly funding Democrats. ARE YOU BLIND?
The people funding the illegals is both the Open Borders Society, and other organizations, whom are directly funding Democrats. ARE YOU BLIND?
I can't seem to find any information on this "Open Borders Society". Are you sure it is not just another invention of the right-wing media bubble you inhabit?
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I can't seem to find any information on this "Open Borders Society". Are you sure it is not just another invention of the right-wing media bubble you inhabit?
Originally posted by BingB: So you think he was talking about the "Open Society Foundation"?
They do not support open borders. They support immigration reform.
First of all, I have no idea what you're talking about "he," ... are you talking about Tucker Carlson? I didn't watch it... you are responding to me in a completely different context. Stop confusing your conversations.
You refuted my claims that Democrats are trying to destroy the country, and denied my comments about Democrats wanting illegal immigration.
"Through his Open Society foundations, Soros has said he plans to give away more than $11 billion in his lifetime. According to Soros, the latest $500 million investment earmarked toward refugees and migrants will be owned by his nonprofit foundation, and will be investments rather than grants."
His organization has gotten a lot of scrutiny, and they've removed a lot of things from their website that talked about immigration. The "issues" page in Wayback Machine seems to have been deleted from all prior years, so I wasn't able to find anything. But Open Society Foundation believes in "...a world without borders." They were literally the ones that coined that phrase years ago.
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And this was from yesterday, re: Democrats: Senate Democrats Unanimously Vote to Continue Flying Illegal Immigrants Into the Country
Senator Bill Hagerty: Senate Democrats banded together to ensure Biden can continue resettlement of unlimited numbers of illegal immigrants in all 50 states at taxpayer expense. United States Senator Bill Hagerty (R-TN), a member of the Senate Appropriations Committee, forced a vote on his amendment to the pending appropriations bill that would prohibit taxpayer funds from being used to secretly fly illegal aliens from other nations directly into states across the country for resettlement. In 2023, the Biden Administration flew at least 320,000 illegal aliens into the U.S. in order to deliberately resettle them in American communities while, at the same time, artificially reducing the record-breaking number of border crossings happening under its watch. Yet, all Senate Democrats voted against advancing Hagerty’s amendment. The vote was 51-47 (Senate.gov). Rasmussen Reports: 60% of voters disapprove of these flights, 46% strongly (X).
... you're peddling nonsense. And why? You like arguing. You aren't actually interested in having a serious conversation Fred. Explain to me why Democrats support illegal immigration into this country? Is it because they feel bad for them? Please tell me.
... and please don't go on about us needing to pass a bill. WE ALL KNOW that's just a political marketing thing to deflect ownership of the crisis onto Republicans because things are starting to get really, really bad. This comes down to Biden eliminating the "remain in Mexico" Executive Order for the sole purpose of allowing as many illegals into the country as possible.
stop voting for lying scum stop posting video's of scum lying point out lying every time you hear it that is true reform
The problem here is that what you see as lies, we see as truth.
Sadly, you haven't awakened to the reality that the liberal media in this country has been lying to you for years. You have been slowly, and deliberately, brainwashed.
The problem here is that what you see as lies, we see as truth.
Sadly, you haven't awakened to the reality that the liberal media in this country has been lying to you for years. You have been slowly, and deliberately, brainwashed.
when asked to provide proof to your wIld BS like the rump and trucker we hear CRICKETS RUMP LIED REPEATEDLY and lost the vote count trucker lied repeatedly and got fired by fox for it those are fact found by courts and paid for by 750 million fines
an other court found the rump 3 times at fault and GUILTY OF RAPE AND FRAUDS THOSE ARE FACTS TRIED IN COURT
YOU HAVE FEELINGS AND FEARS NO EVIDENCE NONE ZIP NADA
Originally posted by BingB: What I am trying to do is point out how different people define "patriotism". For example the LGBTQ community are often labeled as "Un-American".
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cliffw: C'mon Mr Evidence, did you make up that claim ?
The passages Erickson endorsed included Hice's claim that “the homosexual movement is ... destroying America by aggressively seeking to destroy traditional families, religion, and marriages for the purpose of removing all societal moral boundaries”:
Heh. Media Matters. They whine about all things Republican.
Hice, a Baptist minister unseated an incumbent for a Congressional seat. That he believes the homosexual movement is destroying America, should be expected. That Erick Erickson endorses him, is his right.
Are you claiming the opinion of two people equates to "often" ? Those are not facts, or evidence.
so tell the rump to allow his minions to vote on a reform bill
Gop obstruction a long with rump elect me BS is a problem
NO... we need to enforce the immigration laws we have, such as the "remain in Mexico" policy that we had, which Biden rescinded. We don't need reform, we need to enforce the laws we do. Congress sets the number of immigrants that are allowed into the country legally. We need to process people through our consulates and immigration offices in these various countries. Biden, through support from globalist policies, is allowing a run on our border in order to destabilize our economy. When the government fails, it'll be much easier to create a new government... and everyone will just lay down and take it. They know this.
YOU know this... but it's hard for you to accept / understand that you've been lied to for the past couple of decades.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: NO... we need to enforce the immigration laws we have, such as the "remain in Mexico" policy that we had, which Biden rescinded. We don't need reform, we need to enforce the laws we do.
Can not reinstate the Migrant Protection Protocols ("stay in Mexico") without the consent of Mexico and they no longer consent. But I'll bet the US could get them to consent if we wanted them to.
Not sure if this is the answer, but something has to be done. This immigration issue is out of control. Congress needs to step up and do something.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: George Soros funds illegal immigration, this is known fact. Here's an article from Forbes just 7 years ago which really emphasized it: https://www.forbes.com/site...ees/?sh=48ee8fb38882
"Through his Open Society foundations, Soros has said he plans to give away more than $11 billion in his lifetime. According to Soros, the latest $500 million investment earmarked toward refugees and migrants will be owned by his nonprofit foundation, and will be investments rather than grants."
Again you show the obvious signs of right-wing programming.
"Migrants and refugees" are not "illegal immigrants". That is just right-wing propaganda.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Senate Democrats Unanimously Vote to Continue Flying Illegal Immigrants Into the Country
Again the people on these planes are asylum seekers. They are not "illegal immigrants".
More right-wing propaganda.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Fred. Explain to me why Democrats support illegal immigration into this country? Is it because they feel bad for them? Please tell me.
Democrats do not support illegal immigrants. They support the rights of people to lawfully seek asylum in the United States.
The problem is that the people who live in the conservative info bubble are not capable of understanding the difference. They are repeatedly told that every person entering the country is an "illegal immigrant" and they just blindly believe that.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Biden, through support from globalist policies, is allowing a run on our border in order to destabilize our economy. When the government fails, it'll be much easier to create a new government... and everyone will just lay down and take it. They know this. .
WTF are you talking about? The absolute WORST thing a leader can do is destroy the economy. Nothing gets you thrown out of power quicker than that. Republicans controlled both houses of congress and the Presidency for 12 straight years, but were swept out of office in 1933 due to the Great Depression they ushered in. The Dems controlled both houses and the Presidency until the economy collapsed under Jimmy Carter then Republicans took over. In 2006 when the housing bubble started popping the Republicans had controlled both houses plus the Presidency for 4 years, but again were swept out in elections.
So how the hell does Biden benefit from destabilizing the economy and destroying the government? When have the American people ever been willing to just "lay down and take it"?
You can't possibly believe anything like this if you have even a rudimentary understanding of the political history of the United States. Or even the world for that matter. Leaders who destroy their economy and have their governments collapse under them do not come out ahead.
AND IF ONLY THE NUT-CONNED COULD GET LESS GOVERNMENT
what they really want is a fascist state where the Gop rule everyone their religious delusions must be imposed on everyone they will not allow gays to have any rights women will lose the right to vote get sick and die no heath program for you but lots of crazy rules of their cult red hats or shot on sight
Originally posted by randye: You should be perfectly capable of making your own list were you not crippled by your Leftist ideology and accompanying willful ignorance..
I can't make a list because there are none.
And you can't prove me wrong because there are none. History has proven that society can not function without a government to enforce rules and regulations. It is that simple.
If I am wrong then tell me how we get the border under control without any government action. I am really anxious to hear this.
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Originally posted by BingB: What I am trying to do is point out how different people define "patriotism". For example the LGBTQ community are often labeled as "Un-American".
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Originally posted by cliffw: C'mon Mr Evidence, did you make up that claim ?
Why yes, yes you did.
C'mon Mr Evidence, where is your proof.
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Originally posted by BingB: The passages Erickson endorsed included Hice's claim that “the homosexual movement is ... destroying America by aggressively seeking to destroy traditional families, religion, and marriages for the purpose of removing all societal moral boundaries”:
Where did Hice claim queers are "Un-American" ?
Next you will claim the active effort to destroy traditional families, religion, and marriages is not destroying America. An effort by the leftoids.
The low information voters won't think it is happening.
