Thanks for the info Hi-Tech. If you talk him, ask him to respond to the email I sent to his navy.mil email address yesterday. I am sure he has access to it.
(edit) I sent the response above before noting that you are in California, so the edit should be if you talk to him, not see him
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Dar/Jen/Craig, I'm bouncing in and out of classes all day today. Hopefully I can make it to the pac-n-ship by 5:30, if not, i'll ship it out tommorow morn.
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As I have been instrumental in posting a lot in this thread, and have been on FocusRush's back about this, I would like to make an observation here, if nobody minds? Whilst FocusRush has been very lax about coming through with the job as promised, I feel I should make an observation in his defence.I withdraw my veiled comment about being a scammer.All the parts etc were still in his possession, and had not been sold or disposed of.Had he been intending to defraud, I very much doubt they would still be in his possession.I am of the mind that something has gone seriously wrong in his life, which prevented him from keeping his word.I should imagine this has been hanging over him like the sword of Damocles, and making him ill.Commitments made, and not fulfilled, will become like a heavy weight on the mind, and it is not easy to face up to admitting one's intentions have got out of hand, especially when problems in one's personal life create even more stress. This can, and will, render one unable to think clearly, and see a way out. Perhaps a little sympathy, rather than condemnation, will help him get his life back together.I truly hope so.I am sorry if I have added to your problems, FocusRush, and I hope your life comes together, and back to normal, as soon as possible. Nick
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Well said Nick. I am trying to give him the benefit of doubt, and it sounds like he had good intentions. The thing that is bugging me is the lack of communication. If he were to eamil me with a reason for the delay in sending the parts I paid for, I would understand, and give him time to take care of it... but he has flat out cut off all communication. And I am out of 135.00 bucks.
Good intentions or not, he needs to communicate when others have a finacial stake at risk.
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To be honest, thats the one reason I didn't post and will not post the full contents of our meeting for general viewing. DL10- I looked through this entire thread and did not see one post you made until you stated that everyone has the right to know. This is NOT the case, I want to help out those effected. Posting specifics about something you're not involved in would only instigate a witch hunt, and what good is a burnt witch? Fetish, judging by your previous post, you are much wiser than I am. I too believe that James while sincerely took on this project in good faith, just took a little more than he could chew at the time. As many of you know, when life hits you, it hits you hard. Anyways, Dar, I dropped those sail panels off to the shipping dept here at work and they're packing them up right now.
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Personally I never got the imperession that FocusRush was a scammer.
While I thought his communications were way too lax, it seemed obvious to me that the guy was pretty sincere about his intentions.
I do believe he probably bit off a little bit more than he can chew, but hey this forum is famous for us helping each other out, especially something of this nature.
Hey there is no shame in admitting you need help. Here's to hoping this project gets back on track and achieves it's original goal !
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To be honest, thats the one reason I didn't post and will not post the full contents of our meeting for general viewing. DL10- I looked through this entire thread and did not see one post you made until you stated that everyone has the right to know..
Please don't twist my words; I did not say everyone has the right to know. What I said was I think everyone on here is a concerned party.................. Just because I didn't say anything before in this thread doesn't mean I have not been following the thread with concern. I have always given him the benefit of doubt that he was doing the best he could. But when I saw these posts in the mall I was starting to wonder if this stuff was something he received for the car.
If you had read all the posts, you would have seen that FocusRush found two units in a wrecker's..took one for the project, and went back for the other for himself.... Nick
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Please don't twist my words; I did not say everyone has the right to know. What I said was I think everyone on here is a concerned party.................. Just because I didn't say anything before in this thread doesn't mean I have not been following the thread with concern. I have always given him the benefit of doubt that he was doing the best he could. But when I saw these posts in the mall I was starting to wonder if this stuff was something he received for the car.
Mmmm..have them PM me...the mind races....errrr...."play mummy"...no, don't think so...errr.."physically molest"..getting better...ummmm....." pant madly"....no that comes later...."passionately ma...no! NO NO!!! Down Boy!! Your mind is more youthful than your body!!..Move along!! Nothing to see here!!! Aaaagh.. Nick Edit..manipulate, you rude person!!! THAT is what I was thinking!! !!
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Yes, find beautiful busty blonde australian girls with thick accents that want to visit the states. . . particularly here. Have them PM me.
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Posts: 5486 From: Charleston SC Registered: Dec 2001
I just want to let everyone know that the Sail Panels arrived today and they look great! I would like to thank everyone involved with trying to resolve all of this and I'm turly glad it all worked out in the end.
I would also like to add this: For myself it was never about winning a prize in a raffle but about the people, the people that took the time to organize all of this (including all the vendors, thanks you guys) only to help out other people in a time of need. After having experienced three Hurricanes in six weeks during the summer of 2004 here in Central Florida, I know how bad it feels to fight a lossing battle against Mother Nature. Sometimes things like this happen and there are mix-ups, but I would buy tickets again in a heart beat and I hope all of you would to, it was truly a noble and successful idea...
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Posts: 4547 From: Alexandria, VA Registered: Apr 2005
So I helped last night with the car.(also dragging out my friend pat) As far as work completed about the only thing we got done was got new front struts into the car. (which helped dramatically) next time well do the rear. The car is still in need of a couple things to get it road worthy. Mainly calipers, pads, and perhaps tie rod boots. As far as FocusRush as a person goes, I think he has some backwards priorities. He wants to get the car completely customized while I'm interested in firstly getting the thing road worthy. The car needs a lot of work but if I can keep some committed people I think it can be done. Oh, and i've come to the conclusion that I've spent at least 3 times the amount of time working on fieros than actually driving them .
Joe,to reiterate Topcat: you are a credit to the Forum..wish I could give you another '+' Nick
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So I helped last night with the car.(also dragging out my friend pat) As far as work completed about the only thing we got done was got new front struts into the car. (which helped dramatically) next time well do the rear. The car is still in need of a couple things to get it road worthy. Mainly calipers, pads, and perhaps tie rod boots. As far as FocusRush as a person goes, I think he has some backwards priorities. He wants to get the car completely customized while I'm interested in firstly getting the thing road worthy. The car needs a lot of work but if I can keep some committed people I think it can be done. Oh, and i've come to the conclusion that I've spent at least 3 times the amount of time working on fieros than actually driving them .
Joe
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So I helped last night with the car.(also dragging out my friend pat) As far as work completed about the only thing we got done was got new front struts into the car. (which helped dramatically) next time well do the rear. The car is still in need of a couple things to get it road worthy. Mainly calipers, pads, and perhaps tie rod boots. As far as FocusRush as a person goes, I think he has some backwards priorities. He wants to get the car completely customized while I'm interested in firstly getting the thing road worthy. The car needs a lot of work but if I can keep some committed people I think it can be done. Oh, and i've come to the conclusion that I've spent at least 3 times the amount of time working on fieros than actually driving them .
Joe
People actually drive Fieros?
I haven't driven one on the road for a couple years, but I've had several different ones.
+ to you for your work!
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What caused the car to be 'not road-worthy'? When I handed it over it needed some things, but nothing did not work or function. The interior wasnt comfy because it was in the middle of a color change. I gave Rush the new shocks and struts. While the car probably needs new pads, there weren't any problems with calipers or teh e-brake. Maybe the system needs to be bled because it has been sitting...
I agree on getting the car set up as a daily driver rather than a custom car, and I also had the same conversation with Rush when he came to pick it up. After all, each one of us would customize a car differently, let's get the car to where someone can drive/rely on it and let them do the custom work if they desire.
Has the exhaust been upgraded/replaced yet? That was the most annoying thing when I had the car - the previous owner had some kind of noisemaker muffler on it.
Anyways, take care - good job, let me know if I can help with something. There are about six Fieros in a local yard here that have only been there a few days so I can possible get basic parts if needed.
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VA RICR-ETR Member
Posts: 414 From: Nashville, TN USA Registered: May 2004
chill man... thats not him dont worry, he will get the car done just takes time
How much should he "chill", and how much time should focus take? Focus stopped giving updates, and is for all intents and purposes MIA in regards to a project should be finished by now. The last anyone heard Random went to help on the project, but it still needed work.
If I donated the car or other parts for a worthy cause only to see it stalled, and the person that got the free stuff disappear, I would be concerned as well
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How much should he "chill", and how much time should focus take? Focus stopped giving updates, and is for all intents and purposes MIA in regards to a project should be finished by now. The last anyone heard Random went to help on the project, but it still needed work.
If I donated the car or other parts for a worthy cause only to see it stalled, and the person that got the free stuff disappear, I would be concerned as well
he didnt dissapear he was online the other day, hes still working on the car when he can... man you guys are quick to juge... how long dose it take to make a fiero roadworthy and make it look good and keep to the theame? if you dant have a job and no life yeah your gonna have it done in a cupple of moths but who here is gonna deovote everywakeing moment while your home from work working on this thing buy yourself when most your help that was origonly planned diched you? hes doing his best, he isnt a crook, and he will git it done... if you read earlyer his mom hardly lets him use the net so he cant come up on here and write you a 2 page essay on his updates, he cant snap his fingers and magicly it finished... why dont you drive all the way out there and help him if your so conserned?
i might get negitives but o well this is my opinion hes not a bad guy and somewone needs to defend him before the chattering of drama like highschool school girls make him out to be the devil and ruin what ever rep he has. you guys might think otherwize but i usuly dont defend people, i do "only" when i feel there being wrongly accused and/or miss juged, he will git it done he just needs the help
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Also not trying to start anything but I have a full time job and had to get parts and cut up two cars to fix it. Is he trying to make the car a show car or make it a nice driver for someone who lost a car to the Hurricane? Could it be given to someone who lost his/her car and let them finish it?
I hope everything works out.
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Also not trying to start anything but I have a full time job and had to get parts and cut up two cars to fix it. Is he trying to make the car a show car or make it a nice driver for someone who lost a car to the Hurricane? Could it be given to someone who lost his/her car and let them finish it?
I hope everything works out.
hes makeing a theamed car for somewone who lost there's when katrina hit. i started mine in july of 05 and didnt finish till novemeber... due to working and family issues and my gerauge was set on fire and i lost all my tools and my first motor i bought. some people have the funds and the time mine took way longer than i wanted..i was hopeing to be cruzeing up to hot aguest nights in reno nv. in it but insted i got to drive it around during the holadays
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I am just very curious as to how you know all this? You seem to live a long way away from him? Are there no local internet sites to post from? Why are you suddenly jumping in now, to defend him? If he was online recently, why not take the time to post an update? He is dealing with other peoples' donations and contributions..that would require a rather more diligent attempt to keep those donors up to speed. He also sold items, and ceased to maintain contact with the purchaser after receiving the funds.The car was to be raffled off at christmas, to raise funds for the victims, not to present them with some exotic theme car.There have been promises made all along the line, and not adhered to.I will be interested to read your reasons for defending FocusRush. I hope they are well-founded. Nick
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hes makeing a theamed car for somewone who lost there's when katrina hit. i started mine in july of 05 and didnt finish till novemeber... due to working and family issues and my gerauge was set on fire and i lost all my tools and my first motor i bought. some people have the funds and the time mine took way longer than i wanted..i was hopeing to be cruzeing up to hot aguest nights in reno nv. in it but insted i got to drive it around during the holadays
Edit to add..according to the photo and video posted by FieroRush, and Rcr-etr's comments recently regarding the condition of the car when it was handed over, there was not a lot to do, to get the car roadworthy.
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HI-TECH, I defended FocusRush in this post, because I was concerned that things were not going as planned, and felt maybe I had been too hard on him.I would have thought that he had an opportunity to come back and reply, and set things straight, but he hasn't yet? Nick
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As I have been instrumental in posting a lot in this thread, and have been on FocusRush's back about this, I would like to make an observation here, if nobody minds? Whilst FocusRush has been very lax about coming through with the job as promised, I feel I should make an observation in his defence.I withdraw my veiled comment about being a scammer.All the parts etc were still in his possession, and had not been sold or disposed of.Had he been intending to defraud, I very much doubt they would still be in his possession.I am of the mind that something has gone seriously wrong in his life, which prevented him from keeping his word.I should imagine this has been hanging over him like the sword of Damocles, and making him ill.Commitments made, and not fulfilled, will become like a heavy weight on the mind, and it is not easy to face up to admitting one's intentions have got out of hand, especially when problems in one's personal life create even more stress. This can, and will, render one unable to think clearly, and see a way out. Perhaps a little sympathy, rather than condemnation, will help him get his life back together.I truly hope so.I am sorry if I have added to your problems, FocusRush, and I hope your life comes together, and back to normal, as soon as possible. Nick
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I am just very curious as to how you know all this? You seem to live a long way away from him? Are there no local internet sites to post from? Why are you suddenly jumping in now, to defend him? If he was online recently, why not take the time to post an update? He is dealing with other peoples' donations and contributions..that would require a rather more diligent attempt to keep those donors up to speed. He also sold items, and ceased to maintain contact with the purchaser after receiving the funds.The car was to be raffled off at christmas, to raise funds for the victims, not to present them with some exotic theme car.There have been promises made all along the line, and not adhered to.I will be interested to read your reasons for defending FocusRush. I hope they are well-founded. Nick Edit to add..according to the photo and video posted by FieroRush, and Rcr-etr's comments recently regarding the condition of the car when it was handed over, there was not a lot to do, to get the car roadworthy.
hmmm... reasion i defend him is becouse i know he will git it done, when he fist came up with this project i helped him out with the forums for both his fiero and focas sections of his websight and i spoke regularly with him on the phone and though aim, the shop he was origonly gonna be doing this closed down and he had to move...witch pritty much had to stick it on the back burner for a bit but he is still working on it.. he will come though on this hes not the kind of person to lie and take donations from everywone and bounce... if he had more help from people iam shure this project will come along faster , ill try calling him tomarrow and see what up and see if i can get an update for you guy, will that work?
I never enjoy being negative, I think it is a waste of time and energy.I would far rather be positive, and a help..the latter being very difficult living in Spain.Encouragement costs nothing. So I would welcome your deciding to get in touch with FocusRush, and seeing if you can inspire him to find the motivation to finish the job. RandomTask has also been very willing to help, and doing a good job in pulling with FocusRush.The warm weather should be coming soon, which is inspiration in itself.Do your best, Hi-Tech, and and I am sure things will get going again. Kudos for your faith in his integrity, positive thinking is the first step!! I hope, more than anything, he doesn't let himself down, as much as anybody else. Just one more point: there's nowt stranger than Folk, and I can't get my head around his Mother's attitude over not allowing him to use the Net...why not? Nick
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Then why no updates, all anyone ask for is communication.
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hes still working on the car when he can... man you guys are quick to juge... how long dose it take to make a fiero roadworthy and make it look good and keep to the theame? if you dant have a job and no life yeah your gonna have it done in a cupple of moths but who here is gonna deovote everywakeing moment while your home from work working on this thing buy yourself when most your help that was origonly planned diched you?
If you go back and read his post, his own timelines had it done in Jan. If he can not take on such a monumental project, then do not step up to volunteer, or at a minimal let the folks you took parts from know what's going on. Updates can buy you more time than ignoring those that gave freely.
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hes doing his best, he isnt a crook, and he will git it done... if you read earlyer his mom hardly lets him use the net so he cant come up on here and write you a 2 page essay on his updates, he cant snap his fingers and magicly it finished...
Having internet access can be a problem giving updates, so why not use the public library, or better yet, the library on the Navy base. They have internet access that he could use.
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I know my schedule, and how much free time I have, ergo, I will not bite off more than I can chew
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i might get negitives but o well this is my opinion hes not a bad guy and somewone needs to defend him before the chattering of drama like highschool school girls make him out to be the devil and ruin what ever rep he has. you guys might think otherwize but i usuly dont defend people, i do "only" when i feel there being wrongly accused and/or miss juged, he will git it done he just needs the help
High school girls? He is ruining his own rep.
BTW, I did not give you a negative for your opinion. Also, for those that might want to know, I did get my parts from Focus... after going around and about and getting a third party invovled. The parts were as described and arrived in good condition.
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I haven't been negative at all in this. All I ever did was ask questions, which I feel I have a right to do. I've never called him a liar, said he sucked, or anything that can be construed as 'negative'. I won't rag on someone unless they're standing in front of me.
The points I feel I have to make are these:
I understand that everyone at one point or another has bitten off more than they can chew. I understand that fully. But I, and several others, have offered to help, and many have sent parts and other items to help. So far the donors have nothign to show for it and none of my emails, phone calls, or PMs have been returned saying "yeah, come down and help".
When the car was handed over, it was fully driveable. The tires were decent, but old, so it definitely needed new ones. The headlights were up as the motors were shot, but they worked. The shocks and struts were probably worn, but I gave him all new ones. The driver's door panel was off, but was given to him, and could have been put on easily. I even recieved a voicemail still from him calling me after he got home the day he picked it up and said that the car drove from Richmond to the beach with no problems at all and that he was impressed at how well it ran and drive. The car was definitely road=worthy.
When he picked the car up he had grand visions about how he might be able to get Archie to donate a V8 swap, a body kit from someone else, etc. I explained that I felt most Fiero owners like their car because they work on it a bit, and that the people losing cars in the Hurricane aftermath would appreciate a car period, let alone a fully customized machine. We both agreed that the most sensible thing would be to get all the small stuff taken care of and then donate it. I just sat back and watched as people started donating things like leather seats.....
I still, at this point, don't feel negative about the situation.. But I don't like excuses either. If he does not have the time, tools, whatever, to do it, lets get it to someone who does. At the rate we're going another whole hurricane season will have come and gone before it's ready. I feel bad that someone thinks I'm a little high school girl who needs to chill, but I've never lashed out, just inquired about things.
I'll go one better. Maybe Ed Parks will allow a couple hours during his event down in Alabama at the end of April to finish it up. If he agreed, and some people who were going committed to it, I'd volunteer to find a truck and trailer to get the thing down there. I don't want to go through the hassle, but I want to do what I can, and I could probably swing that. I was gonna take my '88 down there on a trailer, but if it means doing something better for someone, I'll throw the Project on there instead and delay the '88 getting there yet another year.
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Danger, Danger, Tony has an idea !! Project Hurricane = Event !
This is just my suggestion and you guys can run with it, disregard it, or come up with some completly other solution.
I do not know if there are any fiero clubs in the area, but why not map out what all needs to be done and try to knock it all out in one weekend !
Make it an event ! Line up all the parts that need to be had, all the work that needs to be done, get a host of volunteers and finish the car in one fell swoop. Of course this would require some coordination, a group effort, and maybe even some donations, but i think it could be done ?
You might be able to get a local garage to donate tools and space, a local eatery to donate food to feed the group, maybe even some wheels or parts from other sources if you let them know what you guys are doing it all for.
I've given james a call twice this week and have yet to hear back from him.
Exoticse- I wish there were some clubs here locally. I know several people here that drive fieros, but no-one willing to put in any commitment. Its easier said than done.
I'm going to tell everyone my plans.
As I haven't heard from james(focusrush), next time I contact him i'm pretty much going to 'steal' the project. This being said, I'm a busy college student and have VERY little time. I've consulted with Nick on this and pretty much, I'm going to get the car able to pass VA inspection, and install any shipped parts, then sell it (probably on ebay, but open to suggestions). Take whatever costs were incurred on me (title transfer and parts) and just give the rest to Darlene or someone else to distribute them.
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Random: I appreciate your initiative, but this blows.
The intention of James taking the car was we were going to give it to someone who needed it down in Hurricane alley. It totally sucks that the car is going to hit eBay. I could have done that myself. Why not not give the car as is with all the parts to someone down there who has the time/energy to work on it? It would make me feel a lot better and be closer to the target than where it is headed now.
I'd take the car back myself and send all the stuff people sent/donated back before I want to see it auctioned off, no matter what the cause. Sorry if I'm coming off selfish, just trying to express my feelings honestly. I defintely didn't give that car away to sit, nor to some random person who is ging to throw some stuff at it then auction it off. The car was an asset of mine I gave up with a purpose in mind. Just because some time has gone by doesn't mean that purpose has evaporated. Thanks for listening.
A review of things as they stand. VA RICR_ETR generously donated the car and parts to the project. Many others donated new and used parts. All the plans that James had have gone wrong. He virtually disappears from sight, and there has been very little progress made. Joe has generously volunteered to do whatever he can to make the most of a bad job. I have been a total pain over pursuing this, and I live in Spain..all I could do was to keep it alive from here. Now it is time for somebody else nearer to keep the motivation going. The most important aspect of the exercise being completed successfully, is the longterm effect on the Forum's collective willingness to stand up and be counted when people are in trouble.That is probably one of the most outstanding aspects that separates this Forum from most others.If this project is allowed to fall by the wayside, the detrimental effect on the generousity of PFF Forum Members could be extensive. It may cause people to think twice before donating again in the future.That would be lamentable. Just one final thought, if I may. Although the Hurricane is now in the past, the devastation will continue to be felt by the victims.However, the Forum Members involved in the disaster seem to be showing enormous character in getting their lives together again .It might be worth discussing what to do with the Project when it is completed.Perhaps there are other people who are now in greater need, that the Project could be used to help out. I am going to stop chasing this now, and hope it can be resolved by Members closer to the problem. James, I think you have been very remiss in not coming here and keeping everybody informed.Excuses about not being able to get onto the Net are pathetic, and no excuse at all.Perhaps next time you decide to start something, with mainly other peoples' parts and money, you will show more responsibility.There is no shame in admitting you can't fulfil your objectives. There is, in not being man enough to admit it.I have held off from giving you a negative rating, but it is there now. No big deal? To me it is. I don't hand them out lightly.It may well be insignificant to others, but to me it is regrettable. Nick Edit to add: I believe VA RICR_ETR should have the right to get the car back, and the donated parts returned to the original donors.Just my 2 cents.
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He is ruining his own rep. 
