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Lopsided chops? by jmbishop
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Once again, MstangBware is being breast feed by the wrong gender, hehe.


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Let's perform a side-by-side for laughs.


D1S;



Let's start this page out on the right footing, hehe.

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Hey mstangbware hate to tell you this but Archie didn't install the n*.


HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Now that's funny right there!!!!!! Calling Arch out, and total backfire!!! Whammo!!!! Here Shaunstangs, I got you a band-aid:



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If you would get out from under Archee's desk and just look at it you would see that something is off.



Dude, you need to lay off . I think you and your cohorts are starting to go blind in the caves of Pakistan.

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Let's perform a side-by-side for laughs.


D1S;




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This images is larger than 153600 bytes. Click to view.




Sorry but the pulley side of you N* is lower than the trans side. I top view doesn't show it. As long as your not worried about it then its not a problem unless your trying to point out the same problem in someone else's car.
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Hey mstangbware hate to tell you this but Archie didn't install the n*.


I don't remember him saying he thought Archie did. But it does prove that no one is perfect, its ridiculous to say its impossible for one of Archie's chops to be lopsided when you've never seen it, or have good pictures of it. Its a simple mistake if its not just a optical illusion and not really that big of a deal unless it was my car.
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Sorry but the pulley side of you N* is lower than the trans side. I top view doesn't show it. As long as your not worried about it then its not a problem unless your trying to point out the same problem in someone else's car.


As the guy who started this bashing thread, it might be a good idea if you take your own advice.

Have we had enough of this hate yet?

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Originally posted by Archie:


As the guy who started this bashing thread, it might be a good idea if you take your own advice.

Have we had enough of this hate yet?

Archie


The bashing in this thread started against me, not Archie, just like what happened when I posted about the right way to spray pearl. The mud wasn't here to begin with, you brought it and slung it first.

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The bashing in this thread started against me, not Archie, just like what happened when I posted about the right way to spray pearl. The mud wasn't here to begin with, you brought it and slung it first.



That's because you started a thread of accusations without bringing even one item of evidence.

7 weeks & 17 pages later & you guys still don't get it.

Archie

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Originally posted by jmbishop:

Since we can't stay on topic in the glass window thread I have decided to start a new thread in hopes that we can stop cluttering the other thread. So far its been "he said she said", Madcurl has ignored my suggestions to give us some proof that at least some of his chops are symetrical, and MustangsBware has some how been accused of somehow not taking care of Wills car.


Right now the closest we have to a answer was provided by jscott1

Unfortunately this is not definitive enough, the only way this issue will get closure is to break out the measuring tape on the cars said to be off.


Where are the accusations?
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Sorry but the pulley side of you N* is lower than the trans side. I top view doesn't show it. As long as your not worried about it then its not a problem unless your trying to point out the same problem in someone else's car.


 
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Its ridiculous to say its impossible for one of Archie's chops to be lopsided when you've never seen it, or have good pictures of it. Its a simple mistake if its not just a optical illusion and not really that big of a deal unless it was my car.


No matter how a person checks JmBishop logic, JmBishop is still full-of-it.




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Where are the accusations?


You're just plain stupid aren't you?
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Find all I've posted and point them out or STFU
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Find all I've posted and point them out or STFU


You know, I gave you a chance to bow out of this gracefully & you just want to keep the hate coming. I fail to understand why you want to keep embarrassing yourself with your high School bickering.

Anyone that reads the last 7 pages of this thread http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum8/HTML/000111.html & the entirety of this thread can see that it's all about the bashing.

I'm not going to set here and go thru 20+ pages of insults to prove to you something you already know.

The other thread was ruined & this thread was started for the sole purpose of bashing.

You might be the only one that can't seem to understand that or won't admit it.

I give up.

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I didn't start that thread. The truth is that if I had the money to spend I'd still consider having a chop done by Archie if he hadn't behaved the way he has in this thread.

 
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I'm not going to set here and go thru 20+ pages of insults to prove to you something you already know.

I give up.

Archie


Your not doing it because you can't, I caught you in a lie.

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Oh oh, somebody did his right.
 
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Might I offer up another opinion??








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Oh oh, somebody did his right.

MstangBware's;





You have just proved you are don't read before you post, If you had you'd know that Stephen's ls4 no longer sits like that.
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You have just proved you are don't read before you post, If you had you'd know that Stephen's ls4 no longer sits like that.


17 pages later, you've proved that you never had any hard evidence regarding this thread, but dance around it and tried to tap-toe yourself out of it.

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Page 1 post #1 I said there was no evidence. Did you not read that either?

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Originally posted by troyboy:


Hey mstangbware hate to tell you this but Archie didn't install the n*.


Good thing I didn't say he did then!!!!!


Plus we all know that a N* install is way to advanced for Archee to install. I mean that would require using late 90's technology, he just now made it out of the late 80S.
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MstangBware's feeble attempt at mockery......again.

Let's look at other pictures.





Like I said maybe the engine is not what is crooked but something sure is. You can see this plain as day when you look at the brace going across the back side of the engine in relation to the engine. So with either the engine is off of the brace is off, you pick one.

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Originally posted by Hulki U. My-BFF:


HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Now that's funny right there!!!!!! Calling Arch out, and total backfire!!! Whammo!!!! Here Shaunstangs, I got you a band-aid:





Hey STUPID---Go back where I posted the picture of the N* and point out where I said Archee did the install. You have to be the biggest nutswinger I have ever seen post for someone and that's even beating out Madjurl. And you don't even have anything invested in Archee like MadJurl does.
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Originally posted by Archie:


That's because you started a thread of accusations without bringing even one item of evidence.

7 weeks & 17 pages later & you guys still don't get it.

Archie



Good things come to those that wait--Well in this case it will be a bad thing for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Once again Fastback 86 you're wrong again. The monkey is doing things that come natural... just like those on RFT, hehe. It's only offensive if your a Fiero Insurgent.


BEHOLD RFT new mascot
The monkey urine false god that RFT members metaphically drinks from.



Being natural doesn't make any less vulgar. Stop circumventing forum rules.
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Like I said maybe the engine is not what is crooked but something sure is. You can see this plain as day when you look at the brace going across the back side of the engine in relation to the engine. So with either the engine is off of the brace is off, you pick one.


That's interesting. Just so happens I called Kevin (D1S) today and he's calling you a liar, a liar who’s jealous.

So take your pick, Liar or jealousy

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Being natural doesn't make any less vulgar. Stop circumventing forum rules.


Do you know where the picture came from? Shall I embarrass you again?

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BEHOLD! RFT INSURGENT'S false god.



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These pics are for Fastback 86.
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That's interesting. Just so happens I called Kevin (D1S) today and he's calling you a liar, a liar who’s jealous.

So take your pick, Liar or jealousy



Well just so happens the picture posted shows that something is not correct. I mean if you looks at one side of the cover comapared to the other side, you can see it plain as day. So either the motor is not in correctly or the brace running across the back is not correct. Take your pick but something on the setup is not right.


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Well just so happens the picture posted shows that something is not correct. I mean if you looks at one side of the cover comapared to the other side, you can see it plain as day. So either the motor is not in correctly or the brace running across the back is not correct. Take your pick but something on the setup is not right.



Look at you, trying to draw some type of conclusion as-to the quality of #020, "something is not correct" similar words spoken by you at the beginning of this thread.


Let’s review the RFT insurgent “MstangBware” speculations and innuendoes;

 
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Would help if the line used for the measurements on the car where straight.



 
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There is no reason to measure--Put the car on level ground, step back behind it about 20' or so. Look at the Pass side NB areacompared to the DRV side NB area. You will see that the Pass side lays over more than the DRV side.

Like I said in the other Thread, if you are happy with the car then thats all that matters.


Very interesting isn’t it. Now D1S and his customers now need to use a balanced leveler to make sure that the engine is “true.”

As I’ve said, Kevin is calling you a liar and that you are jealous (I'm being nice in not using his words). Kevin is calling you out as-to DS1 installs to which there are 30 or mores builds.

Keep in mind, 30 or more D1S customers pass or present do not have any issues with D1S installs, but only MstangBware does. Now isn’t that interesting. I wonder why?

Let’s see why MstangBware has issues with #020.

1. #020 is at V8Archie (never mind that it’s a D1S install).
2. Jealous cause V8Archie is still in business and has client in nearly every corner of the USA.
3. MstangBware wishes he could build and tweak cars like V8Archie.
4. MstangBware is suffering from low self esteem, therefore hates anything & everything he can’t do himself so he lashes out at V8Archie nit-picking and challenging everything (facts are not required, just speculations and innuendoes).

Yeah, that about sums it up here, jealousy is MstangBware motives.


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Very interesting isn’t it. Now D1S and his customers now need to use a balanced leveler to make sure that the engine is “true.”

As I’ve said, Kevin is calling you a liar and that you are jealous (I'm being nice in not using his words). Kevin is calling you out as-to DS1 installs to which there are 30 or mores builds.

Keep in mind, 30 or more D1S customers pass or present do not have any issues with D1S installs, but only MstangBware does. Now isn’t that interesting. I wonder why?

Let’s see why MstangBware has issues with #020.

1. #020 is at V8Archie (never mind that it’s a D1S install).
2. Jealous cause V8Archie is still in business and has client in nearly every corner of the USA.
3. MstangBware wishes he could build and tweak cars like V8Archie.
4. MstangBware is suffering from low self esteem, therefore hates anything & everything he can’t do himself so he lashes out at V8Archie nit-picking and challenging everything (facts are not required, just speculations and innuendoes).

Yeah, that about sums it up here, jealousy is MstangBware motives.



Your logic has been proven flawed repeatedly by me and even one of the pictures you posted clearly shows something is off.
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Your logic has been proven flawed repeatedly by me and even one of the pictures you posted clearly shows something is off.


Why don't you start another thread base upon your hard evidence. I'm sure there's enough D1S installs to compare #020 with.


Or are you still preoccupied with trying to prove Archie's chop tops are lop-sided? Your weak court cases are backing up the system.
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Why don't you start another thread base upon your hard evidence. I'm sure there's enough D1S installs to compare #020 with.


Or are you still preoccupied with trying to prove Archie's chop tops are lop-sided? Your weak court cases are backing up the system.


The crank side of the motor is lower than the transmission side of the motor. You can clearly tell this by looking at the engine cover in the picture compared to the rear support running across. If its not the motor that is lower on one side then the rear support that looks to added in is not in there level. You take your pick and tell me which one it is. Something is not correct with the setup and it shows in the picture. And if you really wanna get down to it, the engine is also off front to back by a hair. You can see this if you just take a simple piece of college rule paper and use as a referance. But if you are happy with it then I am happy for you.

So how is D1S installs going theses days?

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Originally posted by MstangsBware:
Hey STUPID---Go back where I posted the picture of the N* and point out where I said Archee did the install. You have to be the biggest nutswinger I have ever seen post for someone and that's even beating out Madjurl. And you don't even have anything invested in Archee like MadJurl does.


Hey STUPID---I don't have to have anything invested in Archie to believe in his work. And yes I will stick up for him until the end, because he's done more for the Fiero community than you could ever dream of doing. Did Archie deny you a job too, is that why you stalk him like your leader does? You really are a pathetic little troll.

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Originally posted by madcurl:


Why don't you start another thread base upon your hard evidence. I'm sure there's enough D1S installs to compare #020 with.


Or are you still preoccupied with trying to prove Archie's chop tops are lop-sided? Your weak court cases are backing up the system.


We shouldn't have pointed it out, we should have just ignored it so that some day we might see you at a show, you with your lopsided n* and Stephen with his straight ls4. It would have been great.
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We shouldn't have pointed it out, we should have just ignored it so that some day we might see you at a show, you with your lopsided n* and Stephen with his straight ls4. It would have been great.



Sure, but you'll need to show-up at Archie's choptop reunion cause due to Jmbishop and MstangBware I find no need to attend any Fiero shows in TX. Oh yeah, don't forget to point out the "lop-sided" choptop while your at it (oh wait a minute, you can do that using #019.)
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Originally posted by MstangsBware:


So how is D1S installs going theses days?



I'm sure D1S number is listed. Give him a call. I already told Kevin about you and he is awaiting your call.

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Originally posted by madcurl:
Sure, but you'll need to show-up at Archie's choptop reunion cause due to Jmbishop and MstangBware I find no need to attend any Fiero shows in TX. Oh yeah, don't forget to point out the "lop-sided" choptop while your at it (oh wait a minute, you can do that using #019.)


Wow, you keep throwing that threat out there, but who do you think cares? I won't miss you.
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Originally posted by MstangsBware:
And if you really wanna get down to it, the engine is also off front to back by a hair.



Wow! I'd better get on phone with Kevin right now cause my engine is off by a hair!!!

MstangBware's swap; Yeah, it's off by a hair (I mean a mile,hehe)




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