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OK, so here is John as we are taking off the cardboard and getting the angle on the top of the foam bumper.


Here is the cardboard off the foam bumper and John trying to rush out of my way when I took the picture,
Sorry buddy - still gotcha - LOL


Another angle, sorta looks like a nascar front end right now, lol

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It's starting to come together pretty nice......I like all the progress so far...AWESOME..

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We were also talking about putting the forwazrd lip spoiler on the front just like the 69 Mustang, really adds to the look!!!

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Awwww yea that chin spoiler is just what it needed!

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Great idea. Keep up the good work.

I vote for the black style.

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Awwww yea that chin spoiler is just what it needed!


X2!! Great photoshop work, Terry!! Thank you very much! I definately want to put that shape at the bottom!


> Question: Do you all like it to look like a separate black piece or would you like it all molded in and body color?


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I prefer it to be black

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Lets let terry apply it to same color and look at it then,

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I've been toying around for a while of creating a 3d model using Autodesk 3ds Max of a 70's Fiero. As in, what if Pontiac made the Fiero in the mid 70s instead of mid 80s, and I think this nose is exactly what I needed for inspiration to go ahead with the modelling. I started it today, and hopefully I'll finish the entire car before too long. I'm just doing this for fun in my spare time because I love making 3d car models. I've made 3 or 4 models now in the past year or so, and all of my cars are concept muscle cars. Here's an early render of the front bumper. The cool thing about the 3d model is I can render it in any angle and easily change the colors/proportions once it's done.

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i think molded in and the same color would be my preference.

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Well, here is the cool part, it will all be fiberglass so you can paint it whatever color you want!!

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awesome great work... cant wait to see how it looks when you cut into the foam...

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Well, here is the cool part, it will all be fiberglass so you can paint it whatever color you want!!



Well, there's that, and the fact that it's real!

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I've been toying around for a while of creating a 3d model using Autodesk 3ds Max of a 70's Fiero. As in, what if Pontiac made the Fiero in the mid 70s instead of mid 80s, and I think this nose is exactly what I needed for inspiration to go ahead with the modelling. I started it today, and hopefully I'll finish the entire car before too long. I'm just doing this for fun in my spare time because I love making 3d car models. I've made 3 or 4 models now in the past year or so, and all of my cars are concept muscle cars. Here's an early render of the front bumper. The cool thing about the 3d model is I can render it in any angle and easily change the colors/proportions once it's done.



Holy heck !!! that looks really cool I am still behind the times I looked up the software and my mouth dropped and thought I'll stay behind the times http://www.amazon.com/gp/pr...17282&pf_rd_i=507846 great 3D rendering though

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The vents in the red one need to be wider. not longer.

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Here it is with the lower lip same color. Thanks again Terry




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Holy heck !!! that looks really cool I am still behind the times I looked up the software and my mouth dropped and thought I'll stay behind the times http://www.amazon.com/gp/pr...17282&pf_rd_i=507846 great 3D rendering though



Wow that's expensive!!! I have Autodesk 2009, which is a bit outdated I guess but works fine for me. I got the student (non-commercial) version of the software free in one of my college classes last year (well, not really free with the ridiculous cost of tuition, but not $4,000...)

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gee they both look good ... now i dont know which i like better both are awesome

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Wow, that's one nice CtopTopped, suicide door, LT1 Fiero there.



I'll bet the driver is just as sleek & handsome as the car.

Might you have any other information on it?

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Wow, that's one nice CtopTopped, suicide door, LT1 Fiero there.



I'll bet the driver is just as sleek & handsome as the car.

Might you have any other information on it?

Archie


Imma take a shot in the dark on this one, is it ARCHIE!!!!
I like the car, we had an idea of the bumper thought it looked good on our chop top, heck might even send business your way!!


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I really like the look you guys are after. Where will the turn signals go?

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Here is my thought on the black spoiler and you look fantastic Archie



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I really like the look you guys are after. Where will the turn signals go?


We are going to try and ghost them, meaning you will not see them until they turn on. We are contemplating placing them behind the grill plates hidden.

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Looking good!! Honestly, I was quite skeptical about the project until you added that chin spoiler (looks better in black btw). I love the GTO, but I wasn't sure a big mouthy grill would compliment the Fiero's sleek aerodynamic lines. Keep up the good work and PLEASE PLEASE post more pics so us non-body guys can learn from your awesomeness !!

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What are the grills going to be made from?

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What are the grills going to be made from?


Not 100% sure, we were thinking of some type of fiberglass but we have some other options we are not going to reveal on that just yet. We have to get the bumper ready first before we go to that step.
(hint - maybe carbon fiber).

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cant wait to show you all what has happened next

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Here's the pics I took during our last session. More soon.






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I've been toying around for a while of creating a 3d model using Autodesk 3ds Max of a 70's Fiero. As in, what if Pontiac made the Fiero in the mid 70s instead of mid 80s, and I think this nose is exactly what I needed for inspiration to go ahead with the modelling. I started it today, and hopefully I'll finish the entire car before too long. I'm just doing this for fun in my spare time because I love making 3d car models. I've made 3 or 4 models now in the past year or so, and all of my cars are concept muscle cars. Here's an early render of the front bumper. The cool thing about the 3d model is I can render it in any angle and easily change the colors/proportions once it's done.



Good lord! That is awesome! Want to send me some renderings of Fieros? :P

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That nose looks great on the Fiero. If you could use the GTO grills and hidaway lights that would be sweet.

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That nose looks great on the Fiero. If you could use the GTO grills and hidaway lights that would be sweet.


No room for hidaway headlights without cutting some metal. We'll leave that to the individuals who might want to take it to the next level. Sorry.


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I meant to say earlier that this does look great! I hope ours turns out as well. Nice work.


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OK, here are some pictures of some more progress. Johnathon will post some more later as well. I didn't have as many pics this round but he has more.

This is where we got the angle of slope of the hood:


Here we are shaping the front nose and angle of the front side of the bumper lip:


This is where we were marking the lower side of the bumper to find out how much space we have for the front grills and how we are planning to make the front bottom lip forward spoiler so that air will flow better into the radiator:



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Here's a few more. We only spent a few hours working but made a lot of progress. I'm really happy with this foam and the way it is looking so far. Many thanks to Crazydragn for his help, encouragement, excitement, ideas, and financial support. Without him, this would still be a photoshop dream.









This shows our "test hole" that we cut to find the bottom of the crash bar. We didn't think to mark it before it was covered with foam. Then we did a test chin spoiler. These things will be "pushed back" to the planned positions and will not remain where they are now.

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Here is another shot with a tweak to the chin spoiler. This is how I want mine. All blended in and body color.



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Not a big fan of the style you are going for, but i absolutely love watching the process and the creativity on display.

I wish you guys nothing but the best in reaching the design you seek.

It looks like you are on the right track.

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Not a big fan of the style you are going for, but i absolutely love watching the process and the creativity on display.

I wish you guys nothing but the best in reaching the design you seek.

It looks like you are on the right track.



I'm glad you're watching! Many sets of eyes help develop a good product. You might point something out to us that we never thought of! We can always use more objectivity, especially since we are starting to gush over this thing!
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Thank you for sharing the process. Please take lots of photos along the way. I have been wanting to see how someone creates a new fiberglass part in this fashion!

I think the front end will be a very cool one-off! But you may want to consider incorporating the same feel & style into the rear as well in some form or fashion to unify it all together.

Please keep posting!

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Thank you for sharing the process. Please take lots of photos along the way. I have been wanting to see how someone creates a new fiberglass part in this fashion!

I think the front end will be a very cool one-off! But you may want to consider incorporating the same feel & style into the rear as well in some form or fashion to unify it all together.

Please keep posting!


I have plans for the rear also. I want to do a "shorty" fastback. No plans for a rear bumper mod at this time.



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