Originally posted by sourmash: ... So now that I'm working to elevate blackrams, ray b and have worked with 2.5 on his approach, you're triggered.
I'm glad it seems that you intend good will, but I have neither changed nor said things to PFF folks that I believe should be changed. I hope we can remain on topic and not focus on how people talk about the topics, or what we perceive to be their personal problems.
where is your personal responsibility for the putsch that you support
Where is your personal responsibility for the entire summer of Antifa / BLM riots, murder, arson, maiming, attacks on U.S. Federal buildings and BILLIONS of dollars in private property destruction that you support?
You really don't have to respond because it will only be more of your usual weird garbled "Haiku" replete with old, stupid 60's and 70's Leftist shibboleths and slogans.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: Stephanie Grisham told CNN....
THAT'S HILARIOUS!
Just like all the other trash you post, it's also stupid as all hell.
Stephie has a book to sell, allegedly chock-full of lurid details of former President Trump....and like every other "tell-all" bullshit huckster she also knows how to go on TV and dribble out a couple of big whoppers that nobody can ever verify to help her sell her book.
A book just like all the other self-serving bullshit books that NOBODY WILL VERIFY and NOBODY REALLY GIVES A DAMN ABOUT except for drooling lunatic Leftists like you who it is meant for as cheap propaganda for long as your notoriously short attention span lasts...
Stephie will have to compete with other all the other fairy tale book writing swamp creatures trying desperately to remain relevant in the DC swamp.
Have you ever ONCE considered that the stupid things that you think and believe are due to the stupid people and sources that you get you propaganda and "news" from?
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Well, I dunno. I think this was the same day that (the same) Stephanie Grisham testified before the "J6" committee. Did she tell the same story to the House members on the committee or to the committee's staff? Corroborating witnesses? Maybe it will come out when the committee starts doing prime time TV.
I only tossed this nugget into the conversation (such as it is) because . . . RollingStone.
It's just color commentary, not an in-depth play analysis or anything really sizable.
Well, I dunno. I think this was the same day that (the same) Stephanie Grisham testified before the "J6" committee. Did she tell the same story to the House members on the committee or to the committee's staff? Corroborating witnesses? Maybe it will come out when the committee starts doing prime time TV.
It never ceases to amaze how absolutely GULLIBLE and DUMB you Leftist children are.
No wonder you so willingly swallow all the propaganda that you do. You're completely absent any critical thinking skills whatsoever.
All Stephie had to do was "tell CNN" an unverifiable tale and PRESTO!...it's instantly fixed forever as a "fact" inside your tiny little leftie minds.
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We know from your history here that it's extremely painful and difficult for you to understand the textual content here ray, so it's only fair to let you know that just looking at the pictures won't help you keep up with the discussion.
Have someone else read that to you..v-e-r-y slowly...so you'll understand.....or, as usual, you could just go take some more "recreational pharmaceuticals"...or whatever it is you do and come back later with more meaningless nonsequiturs.
We know from your history here that it's extremely painful and difficult for you to understand the textual content here ray, so it's only fair to let you know that just looking at the pictures won't help you keep up with the discussion.
Have someone else read that to you..v-e-r-y slowly...so you'll understand.....or, as usual, you could just go take some more "recreational pharmaceuticals"...or whatever it is you do and come back later with more meaningless nonsequiturs.
Do you even know WHO Stephanie is ray?
the press flack who never ever gave a press CONference in over a year that she had the job for the rump and at lease saw 1=6=21 for what it actually was a revolt to attempted a putsch and quit that day in disgust
other then that just another member of the deep state of the Gop who now has a book to sell about the rump aka a RINO OF THE SWAMP
that is the sound of domino's falling one after another right NOW
the rump supporting fools are going to court taking plea deals prostituting gov att are building cases against the next level up IN the chain of fools then some on the next level will offer up their bosses TO SAVE THEMSELVES and the leadership will be slowly exposed
question is what will be the final straw to break the rump unpaid tax frauds off shore deals with other governments or the 1-6-21 mess traced to the very top some other dirty deeds done dirt cheap ?
------------------ Question wonder and be wierd are you kind?
Meanwhile Ray Epps and the other fed operatives who are on video inciting an assault on the building arent being sought by gov.
Look up Ray Epps. All groups know where he lives.
The fed plot was to enflame the protest into a riot, resulting in punking out Ted Cruz and the other members who were set to dispute the certified counts of several states. Just as planned, they all folded and ushered in a Joe Brandon pResidency that night.
Ted is still so punked that he's willing to lie on record about Jan 6th. I remember you guys who called him one of the good guys last year.
Where is your personal responsibility for the entire summer of Antifa / BLM riots, murder, arson, maiming, attacks on U.S. Federal buildings and BILLIONS of dollars in private property destruction that you support?
You really don't have to respond because it will only be more of your usual weird garbled "Haiku" replete with old, stupid 60's and 70's Leftist shibboleths and slogans.
WHY WOULD i BE IN ANYWAY RESPONSIBLE FOR ACTIONS I DID NOT DO ADVOCATE OR SUPPORT IN ANYWAY
that is just typical reichwing BS WHATABOUTISUM a game I will not play while YOU do fully support the actions of the rumpers with this thread
THE ACTIONS OF PUNKS IN THE STREETS DO not EQUAL THE EFFORTS OF THE RUMP WING OF THE Gop
B L M or THE ANTI-FACISTS are not democratic party groups no matter how often the reich claims they are the very idea of INDEPENDENCE is a nonstarter to the ideological rump Gop who declare people NOT 100+% deluded to be RINO'S SORRY BUT THE REST OF THE WORLD DOES NOT THINK THAT WAY and is capable of thinking for themselves not just blind following a nut leader like our nut-con's do
Craziest thing I've heard today is that BLM and Antifa aren't Democrat party factions. They are completely Democrat factions and products of the establishment. They are wholly owned by the establishment. They are totally protected by the establishment. They're specifically the shock troops of the establishment. They're the tools of globalism commanded to destroy nationalism for globalism.
The anti-establishment, anti-globalist groups are the right to far right groups that may not be pro-Trump. Of all right wing groups the most anti-war protectors of diversity, personal liberties and the environment are the far right which may not be pro-Trump.
and willing to post the batchit crazy ideas about here ?
or do you just stick to latest talking points from mars ?
btw the demo's WISH they could control the street level crazys that the reich thinks are the demo's bot's
granted the Gop did not control the rightwing capital invasion but if the investigation goes all the way up the chain of planners to the top we will see who controlled who there are about 3 or 5 rounds or levels to go from planing to logistic to rabble-rousers to the rump rabble btw the rabble are in jail now next will come the rabble-rousers
Originally posted by jdv: If Antifa was not affiliated with the democratic party how come the antifa website was redirected to to the Joe biden campaign site.
I'm not Internet savvy about redirections and who can set them up and how. Would that have required permission from someone with admin privileges for the Biden Campaign website?
Maybe someone having something to do with Antifa wanted to affiliate the Antifa website with the Biden campaign, but is there any evidence here of a reverse affiliation; i.e., of someone from the Biden campaign or its website wanting to affiliate with Antifa?
Or to put it more succinctly: Is this a red herring?
that is the sound of domino's falling one after another right NOW
the rump supporting fools are going to court taking plea deals prostituting gov att are building cases against the next level up IN the chain of fools then some on the next level will offer up their bosses TO SAVE THEMSELVES and the leadership will be slowly exposed
question is what will be the final straw to break the rump unpaid tax frauds off shore deals with other governments or the 1-6-21 mess traced to the very top some other dirty deeds done dirt cheap ?
Is this you Leftist's new version of "The walls are closing in on Trump" ?
We love dumbass Leftie slogans that inevitably and invariably end up being such comical fail.......like all things Leftist.
Come on, confess it, you're still anxiously waiting on your "Russia Collusion / Trump arrest" fantasy to happen any day now.
Admit it, you're also now having feverish delusions of a Trump "perp walk" over some unspecified, unknown and yet to be discovered "crime" from the January 6 riot.
Reality has never been your "thing" otherwise you wouldn't be Marxist / Leftists.
......
I think it might be time to return to the daily edition of the "Breaking News" since it obviously stirs up you dimwitted Leftist lunatics so much.
Meanwhile here's a sample of Leftists being fed their media propaganda:
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I'm not Internet savvy about redirections and who can set them up and how. Would that have required permission from someone with admin privileges for the Biden Campaign website?
Maybe someone having something to do with Antifa wanted to affiliate the Antifa website with the Biden campaign, but is there any evidence here of a reverse affiliation; i.e., of someone from the Biden campaign or its website wanting to affiliate with Antifa?
Or to put it more succinctly: Is this a red herring?
I can't answer your questions directly, but the fact is that redirect was there for many months. If anyone with anything to do with the Biden campaign had wanted it gone, it would have been gone.
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I can't answer your questions directly, but the fact is that redirect was there for many months. If anyone with anything to do with the Biden campaign had wanted it gone, it would have been gone.
"Subpoenas for your testimony, MAGA World boys and girls. Or should I just say 'girl' ? From the House Congressional Committee investigating January 6."
"Deadly" or just "injurious", the narrative that the Capitol protest was an "insurrection" has not fallen apart in all quarters. Not yet. There is still a ways ahead for it to keep being news in the news or news-like media venues that most here (it would seem) remain blissfully unaware of. Where this is Breaking News.
The Justice Department is considering contempt charges against Mark Meadows, as recommended by the House after he refused to comply after initially complying. Meadows already turned over text messages of people pleading with President Trump to end the rally, and a PowerPoint detailing how the GOP could overturn the election.
BLM and Antifa are deep fakes. They are sellout products of billionaires who use them to create chaos as a means to violently oppress the portion of society that poses a threat to the establishment (the middle class).
BLM is a product of the Democrat Party. Antifa is a product of the Democrat Party.
BLM and Antifa are products of the D.C. establishment and statist media establishment.
They are the shock troops of the establishment and Democrat Party.
The leadership message at BLM and Antifa appeals to the criminal, anti-social impulses of lunatic people and presents the movement as anti-establishment as an excuse to destroy society and culture.
Trump presented an anti-establishment opposition. Both major parties hate him for a reason. BLM and Antifa hate him for the same reason.
BLM and Antifa are deep fakes.
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Almost every time I start reading into the "news" articles on January 6th I really start wondering how long until we are at a full scale Civil War.
The Left is constantly making crap up, and then trying to destroy everyone that even remotely liked President Trump. They don't care about facts. They don't care about anything. They just want a war.
I don't want a war, but I'm ready for one. I'm really getting tired of the crap.
while there are demo's in both BLM and the antifascist they are not controlled by THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
if you do not understand the difference you likely support the rump
With Donations to BLM and Antifa going directly to the Democrat Party, you are still going to claim they are different entities? They are the same group using a different name. The one thing the Democrat Party does well is change the name of things to create confusion.
The Democrats were #Occupy #Occupy is Antifa Antifa is BLM
There are several "innocent" members in each group that don't see the big picture (perhaps you are one of them), but more understand the mission than not.
You don't understand that the Democrat Party is a terrorist organization, it has been since its beginning. You fought FOR slavery. You fought AGAINST Civil Rights. You fought to keep women from having a voice. Your party name "Democrat" represents something that is not the USA. We are not a Democracy, we are a Republic, we've been a Republic since the beginning.
You fought FOR slavery. You fought AGAINST Civil Rights. You fought to keep women from having a voice. Your party name "Democrat" represents something that is not the USA. We are not a Democracy, we are a Republic, we've been a Republic since the beginning.
Black men had the vote long before White women. I'm ok.with that. Women are idiots. Men as lesser so, but still idiots.
The US government was pro slavery. New York City had slaves, slave stockades and slave auction houses just as the South. They just moved away from it sooner and decided to target other people who were still using it. The oldest synagogue in America is in Rhode Island because that was where they traded slaves and near where they imported them on their ships. Same as Charleston South Carolina.
Lee said he wouldnt be fighting a war if he thought it was about slavery.
We arent a republic if our elections are fraudulent. We arent a sovereign republic at all.
With Donations to BLM and Antifa going directly to the Democrat Party, you are still going to claim they are different entities? They are the same group using a different name. The one thing the Democrat Party does well is change the name of things to create confusion.
The Democrats were #Occupy #Occupy is Antifa Antifa is BLM
There are several "innocent" members in each group that don't see the big picture (perhaps you are one of them), but more understand the mission than not.
You don't understand that the Democrat Party is a terrorist organization, it has been since its beginning. You fought FOR slavery. You fought AGAINST Civil Rights. You fought to keep women from having a voice. Your party name "Democrat" represents something that is not the USA. We are not a Democracy, we are a Republic, we've been a Republic since the beginning.
NO where do you get this misinformed but so sure of the lies you have been told ? the guys who did fight for slavery ARE DEAD AND WERE 100% CON'S NOT LIBERALS now the civil right era I was in the Gop AUH2O IN 64 THE RACISTS DID JOIN AND i QUIT LATER AND THE SKINNY CLASS B WITCH WAS A GOP GIRL PHILLIS WHO LEAD THE ANTI ERA WITCHES
SO NO YO ARE WRONG
sight nod for pattern recondition yes many in the OCCUPY and anti fascists and the same guys on a different day the leadership AIN'T THE SAME NOR ARE THE DEMOCRATS LEADERSHIP CONTROLLING THEM BLM tend to be a bit different
but as a CON you do tend to be totally and hopelessly CONFUSED I SUGGEST MORE RESEARCH AND LESS REPETITION OF REICHWING BS
the entire summer [2020] of Antifa and BLM riots, murder, arson, maiming, attacks on U.S. Federal buildings and BILLIONS of dollars in private property destruction
A RED HERRING
That could well have a place in a different kind of discussion. In this discussion, it's a red herring. Central to this discussion: the undeniable legitimacy of the national elections of the Democratic Party candidates Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, which resolved America's choice for President and Vice President in the wake of the homicides and murders, violently inflicted personal injuries, looting, arson and other property destruction in Minneapolis, Portland and elsewhere—and in the wake of everything else that was 2020.
PROLOGUE TO A RIOT
By "Jan. 6", the various groups and lawyers that tried to challenge the elections on behalf of the Trump-Pence candidacy had already exhausted all of their legal options in terms of recounts and judicial interventions.
Georgia's Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger had already (and famously) told Trump to "go pound sand" in a telephone conversation that may yet become part of a criminal indictment against Trump by the Fulton County District Attorney, Fani Willis.
On December 11, a lawsuit from Texas AG Ken Paxton, set up to challenge the Biden-Harris electoral college victories in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, was rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court in a brief and dismissive ruling that started with the well known legal dictum "Vade quatio harena."
This, just to highlight two of the many instances, during the time from November 4 (the day after Election Day) until January 6 or "Capitol Riot Day", when challenges to the election results on behalf of the Trump-Pence candidacy were dismissed on their face or otherwise found wanting for evidence by judges, or by office holders with elections-related responsibilities.
THE GREEN BAY SWEEP
"Ex-Trump aide Peter Navarro says 100 House members were 'ready' to carry out election coup"
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Coup plot called "a well thought-out plan based on sound, constitutional law and existing legislative precedent"
This is something I started. A "super-sized" Reply message. I want to put it up here, like the first episode of a serial publication, instead of waiting until I complete it by filling out the rest of my outline, because I'm not sure I will fill out the rest of my outline.
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I saw Randy’s comment about subpoena compliance in the Arizona election audit.....and had to share.
You may have seen it but, just like a LOT of things on this forum, YOU FAILED TO UNDERSTAND IT.
Let's go look again at what I said and I'll even add some emphasis to help you children try to understand:
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Originally posted by randye:
When someone, or some organization, intends to defy a COURT subpoena THAT is the kind of response they give.
The obvious question then arises; WHY would they want to hide the evidence under subpoena?
I was clearly and unmistakably talking about a subpoena, ISSUED BY A JUDGE, from a duly constituted, COURT OF LAW.
The so-called "Jan 6 Commission" bears ZERO similarity to that matter.
In point of fact there is considerable, well founded and still unsettled legal opinion that the partisan selected "Jan 6 Commission" has NO Constitutional, Congressional or legal authority to do ANYTHING, much less issue enforceable subpoenas.
Considering the wildly Leftist political partisan nature of the "Jan 6 Commission" and it's extremely dubious legal authority, those people who have chosen to not appear before that particular kangaroo court have, in my opinion, chosen wisely....
.....even WITHOUT anything to hide.
......
As usual you are WAY out of your incredibly shallow intellectual depth on this subject and are simply parading your ignorance for all to see.
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Originally posted by Hudini: Court subpoena vs a partisan inquisition? Not the same, not by a long margin. The truth will come out. You will not like the results.
It's only a "partisan inquisition" because the Republican leadership in the persons of Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy blocked previous effort(s) to have a Jan. 6 panel or commission that would have been numerically equal in terms of Democratic and Republican representatives, or Democratic and Republican-selected panel members. Even after other Congressional Republicans, with the prior blessing of the Republican leadership in Congress, had agreed on such a format. A format where any subpoena would have required at least one Republican member, along with all the Democratic members, to vote their approval of it.
It was an offer that Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy "couldn't refuse" . . . but they did.
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Originally posted by randye: You may have seen it but, just like a LOT of things on this forum, YOU FAILED TO UNDERSTAND IT.
Let's go look again at what I said and I'll even add some emphasis to help you children try to understand:
Children? Really? Why don't you just "stuff it." Unless you can prove to everyone's satisfaction that you are actually the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
This is why I seldom read any of your words or images anymore.
This, obviously, an exception.
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It's always cute when you try to 'splain things to everyone that you obviously don't understand...
BUT AS USUAL YOU ARE
Congressional Republican leadership ultimately refused to participate because of Leftist's continual changing of the ground rules even after a supposed agreement had been reached.
There was NEVER going to be equal party representation of the members.
Leftists also refused to agree to releasing a committee report by the end of 2021 as per prior agreement.... (can you say 2022 midterms?)
Refusal by the House Republicans to participate DID NOT somehow magically imbue Nancy's partisan anger-fest with Constitutional or legal powers that it cannot have.
Her unilateral appointment of TWO willing and volunteering "R" dupes, like ousted Republican chair, Little Lizzy Cheney who is still mad at Trump because he dissed her daddy and that feckless and soon to be out of office, Kinzinger, likewise DOES NOT magically grant her little 9 member Leftist "star chamber" with any power that would be afforded to a legal and proper Congressional investigative committee.
Now go join "BDub" and march along in his ignorance parade. We'll even all chip in to buy you a nice T-shirt with HYTHLODAY emblazoned on it.
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NO where do you get this misinformed but so sure of the lies you have been told ? the guys who did fight for slavery ARE DEAD AND WERE 100% CON'S NOT LIBERALS now the civil right era I was in the Gop AUH2O IN 64 THE RACISTS DID JOIN AND i QUIT LATER AND THE SKINNY CLASS B WITCH WAS A GOP GIRL PHILLIS WHO LEAD THE ANTI ERA WITCHES
SO NO YO ARE WRONG
sight nod for pattern recondition yes many in the OCCUPY and anti fascists and the same guys on a different day the leadership AIN'T THE SAME NOR ARE THE DEMOCRATS LEADERSHIP CONTROLLING THEM BLM tend to be a bit different
but as a CON you do tend to be totally and hopelessly CONFUSED I SUGGEST MORE RESEARCH AND LESS REPETITION OF REICHWING BS
Democrats have always been, and always will be racist, anti-women, and Divisionists. And the people that claim to be Democrats are either evil or stupid.
Democrats have always been, and always will be racist, anti-women, and Divisionists. And the people that claim to be Democrats are either evil or stupid.
DID YOU MISS THE LAST 50 YEARS ?
the party of abe now has the values morals and ideals of jefferson davis mostly by dirty deals done by nixon but saint ron of raygun had his share also
heck why not throw in satan worship and child molestation also
btw not that I claim inside knowledge as I am not now nor have I ever been a demo I just think they are a bit less greedy cruel vindictive and vengeful
the party of abe now has the values morals and ideals of jefferson davis mostly by dirty deals done by nixon but saint ron of raygun had his share also
heck why not throw in satan worship and child molestation also
btw not that I claim inside knowledge as I am not now nor have I ever been a demo I just think they are a bit less greedy cruel vindictive and vengeful
Last 50 years? Just look at the last 5.
One party has moved to segregate one race from another race.
All with simple Google searches. If you don't like the sources, feel free to break them down and tell us where they are wrong on the articles I posted. I will not accept one of your random seizures as a response. Thank you, and have a nice day.
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