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The narrative that the Capitol protest was a “deadly insurrection” is falling apart by 2.5
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If the press doesn't cover it and social media bans it, and people still use social media and listen to the press then the truth does not matter because it gets no traction because people are ambivalent.

Another example: go to the hood and explain how you aren't a racist. Go to an Antifa or BLM rally as a White centrist and explain how tolerant you are.



"Theres the rub" as they say
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Introducing the "House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol Deck of Playing Cards."



"Who is Kash Patel, the Trump associate subpoenaed by Jan. 6 committee?"
Jon Skolnik for Salon (as distinguished from "Saloon"); September 24, 2021.
https://www.salon.com/2021/...-by-jan-6-committee/

As a recipient of one of four subpoenas that were issued by the committee as an "opening salvo", I have to grapple with his playing card designation. Jack of Spades?

I can't say much for "Grapple From The Apple", but there's a strong case to be made for "Scrapple From The Apple."

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Introducing the "House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th ....


Why dont you just get back to us when there are results.
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Introducing the "House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol Deck of Playing Cards."





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As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2383) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH SEDITION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2384) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH TERRORISM (18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 113B § 2331) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RIOT (18 U.S. Code § 2101) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 570 individuals], (<1.9 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 35 individuals, (6.1 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 4 individuals, (0.7 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 23 individuals, (4.0 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges.

As of today only 23 individuals, (<0.07 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.


As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.

As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.

As of today the Leftist Congress is trying to soak the American taxpayers for HALF A BILLION DOLLARS in "damages" after telling the DOJ and the federal courts that the capitol building sustained $1.5 million in damages.

As of today 6 Capitol police officers are facing disciplinary action for their actions related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

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"'We’re not going to be able to hold that base': Park Police overwhelmed hours before Capitol breach on Jan 6th"
 
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Newly obtained recordings show USPP [U.S. Park Police] overwhelmed on January 6, hours before rioters attacked the Capitol, with insufficient resources and action taken to control the fray across the city.

Seven hours of radio recordings from Park Police, obtained and reviewed by CREW, reveal a law enforcement agency inundated with risks before then-President Trump even gave his fateful speech, with thousands of unattended vehicles and bags, mobs of protestors at the Lincoln Memorial and Washington Monument and armed individuals.

The recordings also make plain the difference in response between the hands off approach taken with pro-Trump protestors who would later attack the Capitol and the violent action taken against peaceful protestors for racial justice in Lafayette Square seven months earlier.

As the day went on, the tapes make it abundantly clear that USPP was unprepared for the threat of a riot, lacking manpower, plans and supplies, including radio batteries. They got so overwhelmed during the attack on the Capitol itself that after an officer was attacked with a pipe, USPP could not make the arrest, wishing instead for another agency to step in: “Not making any arrests up here, we cannot afford to lose the personnel up here.”

. . .
Jordan Libowitz and Lauren White for CREW (Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington); September 30, 2021.
https://www.citizensforethi...l-breach-on-jan-6th/


Capitol Police try to fend off a mob of "Stop the Steal" protesters as they storm the Capitol Building on January 6, 2021.
Credit: Leah Millis, for Reuters.

"There was no riot at the Capitol on January 6."
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Soo, let me get this straight, you are making fun of his appearance...... and think that is ok,.... because he is associated with Trump?
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"There was no riot at the Capitol on January 6."




That is correct.

An official with the Biden administration has said so.

"There is no riot without rioters,”......... Assistant U.S. Attorney Leslie Goemaat


As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RIOT (18 U.S. Code § 2101) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

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Seven hours of radio recordings from Park Police, obtained and reviewed by CREW,

. . .Jordan Libowitz and Lauren White for CREW (Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington) September 30, 2021.




Has it EVER ONCE occurred to you that the stupid things that you think and believe are due to the stupid people and sources that you get your opinions and propaganda from?


Thank God you have the "unbiased" and eminently "rational" bunch of Leftist whack-jobs at "CREW" to tell you what to think...






WTF is the "Sedition Caucus"?

"Many correctly laid blame at the feet of the 147 members of Congress who had propagated the Big Lie that President Trump won the election by voting against the election results,..."

https://www.citizensforethi...the-sedition-caucus/

"Big Lie"??

Now that's a real curious thing to capitalize in a sentence isn't it?

Sounds familiar too.....Is there a PFF Leftist whackadoodle that regularly uses that particular term?


AH YES!!....THERE IS !!

 
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RIGHTWING EXTREME RIGHTWING

but our rightwing does love the BIG LIE




Leftists gotta Leftist

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As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2383) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH SEDITION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2384) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH TERRORISM (18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 113B § 2331) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RIOT (18 U.S. Code § 2101) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 570 individuals], (<1.9 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 35 individuals, (6.1 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 4 individuals, (0.7 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 23 individuals, (4.0 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges.

As of today only 23 individuals, (<0.07 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.


As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.

As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.

As of today the Leftist Congress is trying to soak the American taxpayers for HALF A BILLION DOLLARS in "damages" after telling the DOJ and the federal courts that the capitol building sustained $1.5 million in damages.

As of today 6 Capitol police officers are facing disciplinary action for their actions related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

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As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2383) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH SEDITION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2384) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH TERRORISM (18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 113B § 2331) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RIOT (18 U.S. Code § 2101) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 570 individuals], (<1.9 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 35 individuals, (6.1 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 4 individuals, (0.7 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 23 individuals, (4.0 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges.

As of today only 23 individuals, (<0.07 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.


As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.

As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.

As of today the Leftist Congress is trying to soak the American taxpayers for HALF A BILLION DOLLARS in "damages" after telling the DOJ and the federal courts that the capitol building sustained $1.5 million in damages.

As of today 6 Capitol police officers are facing disciplinary action for their actions related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

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".....new documents from Judicial Watch further feeds the narrative that this was a cover-up. Tom Fitton added that the documents reveal Babbitt was shot for “no good reason”.

More than 500 pages of internal documents from DC Metropolitan Police concerning the fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt in the Capitol on Jan. 6 reveal witness accounts stating she was not holding a weapon at the time of her death and how "upset" the officer was after shooting her. "


https://townhall.com/tipshe...good-reason-n2597429

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The three words that I would use are: cold blooded murderer
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Trespassing is not a capital crime.
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This is a great, and free publication from Hillsdale College.

I have been a subscriber for several years.
https://imprimis.hillsdale....6-insurrection-hoax/
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The three words that I would use are: cold blooded murderer


Butt wasnt ahe a racist White supremacist?
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This is a great, and free publication from Hillsdale College.

I have been a subscriber for several years.
https://imprimis.hillsdale....6-insurrection-hoax/




THANK YOU


That is an excellent article and it prompts me to think that this thread needs a continuing, itemized, compendium , similar to the "breaking news", that details the Leftist hoaxes and lies arising as a result of the events January 6, 2021 that go beyond the "deadly insurrection" propaganda.

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Butt wasnt ahe a racist White supremacist?


I'm reading that you seem to believe, or hint that you believe it's OK to kill someone if you disagree with them. I really hope I'm wrong on this, but if you are on the Left I'm probably reading it correctly.
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I'm reading that you seem to believe, or hint that you believe it's OK to kill someone if you disagree with them. I really hope I'm wrong on this, but if you are on the Left I'm probably reading it correctly.


My interpretation is that he is being sarcastic?
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My statement is to people who PRETEND to be on.the right but are just centrist moderates who will act as traitors to actual right minded people.
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Still the Gold Standard in examining the death of Ashli Babbitt through the lens of what happened on January 6.

Look elsewhere for the story of how Ashli Babbitt succumbed to online radicalization in the day, months and even years before January 6, 2021.

"Evaluating the Police Shooting of Ashli Babbitt"
Geoffrey Alpert, Jeff Noble and Seth Stoughton for "Lawfare"; September 9, 2021.
https://www.lawfareblog.com...ooting-ashli-babbitt

Read-o-Meter: 20 minutes.

The last two paragraphs:
 
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In this post, we attempted to bring a balanced perspective to the shooting, applying the now-familiar constitutional standard that regulates the use of deadly force. The limited public information that exists raises serious questions about the propriety of Byrd’s decision to shoot, especially with regard to the assessment that Babbitt was an imminent threat. To belabor the obvious, though, we cannot definitively analyze a situation without the relevant facts, and there is a frustrating shortage of facts. But there are enough facts to conclude that even if Byrd violated Babbitt’s Fourth Amendment rights, it is highly unlikely that he could be ethically charged with, let alone convicted of, a crime.

Those conclusions, tentative as they are, assume that courts will apply the legal rules that usually apply to police shootings. Given the unique context present here, though, we would not be surprised if that turned out not to be the case.


I think of the tragedy in terms of the "rinselberg" standard: If I were in the place of Capitol Police Lt. Michael Byrd, would I have fired a potentially lethal round at Ashli Babbit under those circumstances?

Here's a clue:

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It was murder. Ashli is a martyr.
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...even if Byrd violated Babbitt’s Fourth Amendment rights, it is highly unlikely that he could be ethically charged


In other words, the constitution matters. Right up until it doesn't.
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...even if Byrd violated Babbitt’s Fourth Amendment rights, it is highly unlikely that he could be ethically charged



WTF is "ethically charged" supposed to mean?


More Leftist gibberish speak for a legal construct that doesn't exist....like "social justice".

Leftists just love attaching words to make meaningless sh*t sound like it actually means something legitimate.

If anyone wants to attach the word "ethically" to anything having to do with INCOMPETENT COWARD, Michael Byrd, it should properly be

ETHICALLY BANKRUPT


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As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2383) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH SEDITION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2384) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH TERRORISM (18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 113B § 2331) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RIOT (18 U.S. Code § 2101) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 570 individuals], (<1.9 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 35 individuals, (6.1 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 4 individuals, (0.7 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 23 individuals, (4.0 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges.

As of today only 23 individuals, (<0.07 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.


As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.

As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.

As of today the Leftist Congress is trying to soak the American taxpayers for HALF A BILLION DOLLARS in "damages" after telling the DOJ and the federal courts that the capitol building sustained $1.5 million in damages.

As of today 6 Capitol police officers are facing disciplinary action for their actions related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

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The first 20 minutes of the October 26 edition of "All In With Chris Hayes" starts with the shooting of Ashli Babbitt and ends at the "Whitehouse" . . . Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D) from Rhode Island.

Along the way, the curious case of Texas Congressman Troy Nehls (R) who just gave an interview calling what happened to Ashli Babbitt a "murder." Really? Chris Hayes examines that against videos of Congressman Nehls inside the Capitol Building on January 6 and against previous statements from Congressman Nehls about January 6.

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I read that in the movie, the part of Michael Byrd will be played by Alec Baldwin.
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"An unedited surveillance video from January 6 shows Capitol Police officers not only letting protesters walk unimpeded into the Capitol building, but one officer actually invites them in by waving them along."

"More footage from the Capitol riots throws further doubt on the mainstream media’s narrative that the unarmed protesters entering the Capitol building on January 6th constituted a violent “insurrection.”

A newly-obtained video shows United States Capitol Police officers speaking with several January 6 protestors — including Jacob Chansley, the so-called ‘Q shaman’—inside the Capitol that afternoon,”

“One officer, identified in the video and confirmed by charging documents as Officer Keith Robishaw, appears to tell Chansely’s group they won’t stop them from entering the building,”




“This has to be peaceful,” Chansley yelled at the crowd. “We have the right to peacefully assemble.”


The video directly contradicts what government prosecutors allege in a complaint filed January 8 against Chansley,”



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"An unedited surveillance video from January 6 shows Capitol Police officers not only letting protesters walk unimpeded into the Capitol building, but one officer actually invites them in by waving them along."



I saw that video online on Jan 7th.
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I saw that video online on Jan 7th.



Yes, one of the videos is old however I believe a couple of the linked vids are "new".

I'll try to sort out the urls later.

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So basically the charges dropped from trespassing to invited guests. Interesting
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So basically the charges dropped from trespassing to invited guests. Interesting


No, none of the charges have changed AFAIK but the evidence sure has.

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No,none of the charges have changed AFAIK but the evidence sure has.


Do you happen to know if any of the protesters are still being held?
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Do you happen to know if any of the protesters are still being held?

According to a Wash Post article dated Sept 17, only 78 remain in jail.


Tom Jackman, Ellie Silverman and Rachel Weiner
September 17, 2021 at 7:33 p.m. EDT


Of the roughly 600 people charged in the Jan. 6 Capitol attack, 78 remain jailed pending trial, with a majority of those still detained accused of assaulting police officers or some of the worst violence seen that day.


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Yes ,one of the videos is old however I believe a couple of the linked vids are "new".

I'll try to sort out the urls later.


One of the videos is linked to on Twatter here: https://twitter.com/LadyPie.../1394261802662481929

I thought it was interesting seeing and hearing the "Shaman" guy, but it is even MORE interesting to see exactly how cooperative and accommodating the Capitol police actually were despite all the bullshit afterwards.



There is STILL only ONE INCOMPETENT COWARD that murdered anyone that day.

It's manifestly obvious that EVERY OTHER OFFICER out of the hundreds there that day "somehow" managed to control themselves without committing a homicide.

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As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2383) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH SEDITION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2384) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH TERRORISM (18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 113B § 2331) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RIOT (18 U.S. Code § 2101) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 570 individuals], (<1.9 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 35 individuals, (6.1 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 4 individuals, (0.7 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 23 individuals, (4.0 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges.

As of today only 23 individuals, (<0.07 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.


As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.

As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.

As of today the Leftist Congress is trying to soak the American taxpayers for HALF A BILLION DOLLARS in "damages" after telling the DOJ and the federal courts that the capitol building sustained $1.5 million in damages.

As of today 6 Capitol police officers are facing disciplinary action for their actions related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

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Trespassing is not a capital crime
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Trespassing is not a capital crime

I assign this (so to speak) to one of my file folders--the one that's tabbed "Canards about January 6."

It's not unlikely that I will return here, to explain why I have this in my "Canards about January 6" folder.

If I do return here, with that explanation, it could be made visible as early as sometime on Tuesday.

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If I do return here, with that explanation, it could be made visible as early as sometime on Tuesday.



I'm sure everyone will be waiting in breathless anticipation for your next load of Leftist propaganda excrement.......

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