quote Originally posted by theBDub: He didn't say you were, but it's still hard to have a serious conversation with someone who doesn't know if Pangea is "true science" but has no problem believing the earth is 6000 years old. And doesn't even know enough to explain how it could happen with any understanding of geology but at the same time has no problem saying it did. Not saying there can't be respect still, but yeah, it's annoying. Even if it's just your belief, and you aren't trying to force it on anyone, it's just... confusing and strange that you'd willfully look the other way to evidence that points towards other ideas. Serious question, is the other evidence just created by Satan or demons? Can Satan create or just destroy? I had that mental battle myself and am curious where you stand.

I'm just having a conversation. I doubt this is the first time you've seen conflicting ideas by the same person. It happens. I'm doing my best to stay open minded and to not refuse the possibilities of different scientific theories. If being open minded in a religious conversation bothers you, you would probably enjoy a conversation with the Westboro Baptist folks better. Don't really know what else to say about that...

I don't know of any scripture that says Satan can create, even for the purpose of evil. What he can do is deceive. He is an exceptional liar and a master weilder of false information. Could he use those skills to put doubt into the minds of people? I'd say that is one of his favorite pastimes.

quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: I am surprised by the lack of the usual "thumpers" not joining in to help him out?

I have gotten many PMs in the past advising me to tone it down. To not rock the boat. To tread lightly, etc, etc. Those are the same people who will not have the courage to post and will sit home and wonder why this problem persists. I don't really understand that mentality.

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” - Edmund Burke

quote Originally posted by pokeyfiero: Some more advice. Read a few more books to base your knowledge on.

I do love reading. Sometimes it is difficult at the book burnings I host once a month.

quote Originally posted by Boostdreamer: Quid pro quo, my friend. What good has come from your Christian bashing? What will it take to bring it to an end?

Just wondering why you refuse to answer a simple question.

quote Originally posted by DanDamage:

It's only a flesh wound! Come back! I'll bite your kneecaps off!

quote Originally posted by Boostdreamer: ditto

That's fine. I'm sure you refuse to answer because you know where I'm going with it. I just know where you stand now.

quote Originally posted by Wichita: That's fine. I'm sure you refuse to answer because you know where I'm going with it. I just know where you stand now.

ditto

Meh. I'm done.

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quote Originally posted by theBDub: You're less open-minded than you think. And that's what I thought. So who created dinosaur fossils?

No. Sometimes snarky? yes. Do you really expect me to answer another question after your opening statement? I'll give you the opportunity to change your mind.

quote Originally posted by Boostdreamer: No. Sometimes snarky? yes. Do you really expect me to answer another question after your opening statement? I'll give you the opportunity to change your mind.

I edited my comment before your reply. I'm out. I have no desire to "convert" anyone out of Christianity so there is no sense in me continuing.

quote Originally posted by theBDub: I edited my comment before your reply. I'm out. I have no desire to "convert" anyone out of Christianity so there is no sense in me continuing.

As long as you're not trying to change me and I'm not trying to change you, there is no harm in asking questions of each other to experience a different viewpoint. Stick around if you want. You're not bothering me.

quote Originally posted by Boostdreamer: As long as you're not trying to change me and I'm not trying to change you, there is no harm in asking questions of each other to experience a different viewpoint. Stick around if you want. You're not bothering me.

I've been where you are. But I was more open-minded. So open-minded that I realized some stuff in the Bible just wasn't true. Everything kind of went crashing down after that. So I don't really need your viewpoint. I was trying to get you to relent a bit, but that's stupid because I don't care what you believe. So no, thanks though. Have a good day. Gotta get back to work.

I have a good friend who thinks the earth is like 5000 years old, and dinosaurs died in the middle ages. Hes dead set on that. Im fine with it even though I have a hard time keeping a straight face. Everyones entitled to believe in whatever they want.

quote Originally posted by theBDub: . Have a good day. Gotta get back to work.

You too, wish I could. I'm sitting here coughing my head off giving myself a headache. Walking pneumonia sux.

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quote Originally posted by Boostdreamer: Well there's one I already know I have no interest in seeing. No comment will be possible.

It's completely on topic and, while comedic, makes some valid points. Hey, I read the bible, both testaments, twice. And thought about it. Now, in my experience, that's more than many Christians can say of themselves. You have to be open to hearing the other side's arguments but you don't have to agree, of course.

quote Originally posted by theBDub: I've been where you are. But I was more open-minded. So open-minded that I realized some stuff in the Bible just wasn't true. Everything kind of went crashing down after that. So I don't really need your viewpoint. I was trying to get you to relent a bit, but that's stupid because I don't care what you believe. So no, thanks though. Have a good day. Gotta get back to work.

Lots of that going around nowadays.

quote Originally posted by maryjane: Lots of that going around nowadays.

Yeah. And what's bad is that I told myself I wouldn't do that to a Believer. But here I am... Kinda disappointed in myself.

quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: I have a good friend who thinks the earth is like 5000 years old, and dinosaurs died in the middle ages. Hes dead set on that. Im fine with it even though I have a hard time keeping a straight face. Everyones entitled to believe in whatever they want.

Thank you. And I have tiny horses in my engine. Think about it, that's why it's called 'horsepower" - duh!

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: Thank you. And I have tiny horses in my engine. Think about it, that's why it's called 'horsepower" - duh!

I suppose next you'll tell us you have a tiny snake in your pants. I tell ya, I just don't know what to believe anymore.

quote Originally posted by theBDub: I wouldn't do that to a Believer.

quote Originally posted by Boostdreamer: You too, wish I could. I'm sitting here coughing my head off giving myself a headache. Walking pneumonia sux.

Get better. Never had that, but it never sounds nice. Do what the Dr. says.

quote Originally posted by theBDub: Meh. I'm done.

I'm with you. There is no sense in trying to hold a debate with an anonymous person who has lied about everything he is. When it is very suspect that that the dude lied about being in the military. At that point, there is no use going any further and embarrassing him any more. I just assume to let the bad apple poser rot and go away.

quote Originally posted by Boostdreamer: I suppose next you'll tell us you have a tiny snake in your pants. I tell ya, I just don't know what to believe anymore.

Those in that circumstance usually don't tell anyone.

quote Originally posted by Boostdreamer: I tell ya, I just don't know what to believe anymore.

Now were getting somewhere! Once you stop believing without tangible evidence, things get much clearer

You aren't validating Boostdreamer's tiny snake theory, are you?

quote Originally posted by heybjorn: You aren't validating Boostdreamer's tiny snake theory, are you?

I have tangible evidence to the contrary in hand unless some invisible deity is causing me to be delusional about it

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quote Originally posted by theBDub: Nurb's post as a grumpy man who's ultimately harmless, .

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: I have tangible evidence to the contrary in hand unless some invisible deity is causing me to be delusional about it

Now you better not be claiming "hard evidence" in this matter.

Damn, I told myself I would not post in this thread. Noah way, noah how

quote Originally posted by yellowstone: I have tangible evidence to the contrary in hand unless some invisible deity is causing me to be delusional about it

NO would have sufficed.

quote Originally posted by Red88FF: Now you better not be claiming "hard evidence" in this matter. Damn, I told myself I would not post in this thread. Noah way, noah how

quote Originally posted by Wichita: I'm with you. There is no sense in trying to hold a debate with an anonymous person who has lied about everything he is. When it is very suspect that that the dude lied about being in the military. At that point, there is no use going any further and embarrassing him any more. I just assume to let the bad apple poser rot and go away.

Unfortunately, I cannot speed ban you on my own. So in the words of Eric Cartman:

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quote Originally posted by Boostdreamer: Unfortunately, I cannot speed ban you on my own.

might want to watch that, its against the rules to call for ban, and that is pretty close to the line.

quote Originally posted by Nurb432: might want to watch that, its against the rules to call for ban, and that is pretty close to the line.

It was an intro to a video. Humor in the face of attacks by an azzhat. I think Cliff will understand.

Besides, don't you have some homework to do? I left a really big post for you to decipher for all of us. Page 4, sixth post down from the top.

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quote Originally posted by Boostdreamer: It was an intro to a video. Humor in the face of attacks by an azzhat. I think Cliff will understand. Besides, don't you have some homework to do? I left a really big post for you to decipher for all of us. Page 4, sixth post down from the top.

I wasn't taking the video. And actually i do have homework to do, but not for here. i have some code to finish up tonight for the boss on an app i am writing for him, as i'm not at work the rest of the week past lunch tomorrow.