quote Originally posted by Car-Lo: The system sucks, small group of (-----) can speed ban a nice guy like Troy, who's NEXT ?

banned or not.....its a shame to see creativity leave the forum.

[This message has been edited by Falcon Fiero (edited 06-01-2013).]

Well I too enjoy all that Troy offers and shares with the community openly....I too just gave him a big GREEN "+" rating....his creativity will be missed!

Hope Troy changes his mind...has a + from me. One of the "good guys" for sure. Never seen anything negative from him about anybody. Don't know what happened, but hope it hasn't made Troy decide he doesn't want to be here!

HAGO!

Well, I hope Archie still has permission to update this thread.

This Enterra is at the cutting edge of modern customization avaliable to the Fiero community and shouldn't be lost.

What'd I miss??? Troy...Wat's up???

Bob

I hope Troyboy decides to return to the forum, it would be a huge loss for this community...

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87 GT
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85GT Northstar
86GT 3800 n/a

quote Originally posted by Car-Lo: The system sucks, small group of (-----) can speed ban a nice guy like Troy, who's NEXT ?

Agreed.

I am sure Cliff had good intentions when he adopted the system but,...... it is now turning into more of a childish chess game with only a small group able to manipulate the ratings.

For troy to get negged for just stating the facts, is pretty ridiculous. It is a mild understatement to say he is disgusted.

i was looking for something else he may have said, but c'mon.

First Madcurl, then Troyboy, and i now understand two other prominent members plan to vacate as well,...this is getting stupid.

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quote Originally posted by Falcon Fiero: banned or not.....its a shame to see creativity leave the forum.

He's mot banned, (Note, comment withdrawn) I've always had nothing but respect for Troy. hate to see him be this way. This has always been one of the most civilized forums I've ever seen, but there will always be a few small minded people that want nothing more than to muck it up for everybody. Does anybody have a link to the thread that has put Troy in this frame of mind?

Archie, If you can, please keep posting on the progress, this will hands down be the coolest Enterra ever!!!

Joe

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Yes that's true, Troy had enough and left, same thing as being banned ! The system sucks, get rid of it and the DIRT is gone.

DITTO ^ What he said!

Jeez man every time I get on this forum lately it is just going downhill quickly. Between the fiasco with Dean and now Curly and Troyboy leaving it really sucks. I know Curly was HIGHLY opinionated and was not afraid to voice his opinion, but he sure as hell at least had some interesting fiero stuff to say on here all the time. Troy was also quite interesting and their cars were the creme of the crop here in a lot of ways. I am REALLY sorry to see both of them leave. This place is just not the same without seeing Madcurl bumping his favorite choptop and lambo door threads LOL... Really starting to suck around here. Peace

Pete

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"May the grins begin when you turn the key and hear the engine roar over your shoulder" ......Gall57 (slightly modified LOL)

This what happens with + & - system, it failed big time to a great nice guy, haters with envy won.

quote Originally posted by Pete Matos: This place is just not the same without seeing Madcurl bumping his favorite choptop and lambo door threads LOL... Pete

And that's a bad thing???

Joe

yup sure is...

Pete

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"May the grins begin when you turn the key and hear the engine roar over your shoulder" ......Gall57 (slightly modified LOL)

x2 it sure is!!

Wow, some people just have no sense of humor, I seem to have picked up a neg over my joke, oh well!!! Being serious for a moment since it has been brought up, why is Curl's narsisistic tribute to himself, the Choptop Chronicals in the construction Zone in the first place???

Joe

well ya didn't get the neg from me. I am QUITE selective about my negs LOL... Peace

Pete

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"May the grins begin when you turn the key and hear the engine roar over your shoulder" ......Gall57 (slightly modified LOL)

It looks like you could pick up a couple more negs if you keep trying.

From what I read of the way the tracker works is that it is sensitive to ratings over the last few weeks. All it would take to show someone like you a big dip in your triangle would be for 4 or 5 people to give you a +, not all at one time..... they could slowly spread those +'s slowly over a few weeks. Then if all of them switched to a - all on the same day......you could see your triangle jump to the left a pretty good chunk.

The long term bar graph wouldn't notice that action but the short term triangle could see a big movement.

Archie

quote Originally posted by motoracer838: Wow, some people just have no sense of humor, I seem to have picked up a neg over my joke, oh well!!! Being serious for a moment since it has been brought up, why is Curl's narsisistic tribute to himself, the Choptop Chronicals in the construction Zone in the first place??? Joe

I don't give negs freely either (that means I did not neg motoracer838), especially for someone just trying to rattle cages. Mad curl has some cool ideas and while I don't agree with all of his opinions and or his demeanor at times, I support his right to voice them, his ,last car was one HECK of a build and probably why it is in the construction zone.
BTW aren't all of our build threads a little (ok a lot) narcissistic?
Now back to the dark shadow.....any more pics Archie?

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While I have been known to "rattle cages" once in a while, The conversation that has taken place over the last couple of days belongs somewhere else. Lets return this thread to the build at hand, providing Archie can.

Joe

I hadn't checked this thread for a while, and I'm quite surprised to see what's happened. I have no idea what's led to this.

I gotta be honest though... it really annoys me when people go back and delete their posts for whatever reason. It's just seems so pointless.

It's obviously rather disappointing to see this build thread go sideways. I had an opportunity to buy this Enterra from the previous owner (a friend of mine) before it was put on eBay (and bought by Troy), so I have kind of a special interest in this particular car.

Hopefully everyone involved will re-evaluate why they've acted in the manner they have. Nobody comes out ahead by walking out.

While all this drama has been going on, we've been moving along.

We've been working on getting the body closer to being ready to shoot a high build primer on it. While we are doing that we are working on the new design front bumper.

Here Kris is finalizing the decklid & spoiler (not pictured)





The grills were originally mounted with screws that went directly into the Fiberglass. We are working on getting the grills to sit just right in the openings & to change the fastening system to bolt the grills into something something a little better.





We also got a set of T/A? door panels in from JScott & checked them out.....





We've also been working on the front bumper...building up the thicknedd & shape.....







Sun cured fiberglass to add some Vitamin C for strength.



Also working on the rear facia to get it perfect....



Working on matching the slight curve that's on the backs of the tail lights.





Also the transmission came in.....







We hope tol be starting on mocking up the engine/transmission next week.

Archie

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Archie, keep good notes on the transmission install. This is what I'm wanting as well (someday).

I'm so glad Archie can still update this thread!

All I can say is great work! That decklid is something else....!

quote Originally posted by Archie: Sun cured fiberglass to add some Vitamin C for strength.

Vitamin D...Great job Archie and crew. And thanx to Troyboy for allowing the build to continue.

Bob

Archie, how did the front bumper come out?

Bob

quote Originally posted by Archie: It belongs to a member here out of San Diego. We're putting a ZZ4 i it & fixing up a few things. I haven't done a build thread on it because I didn't get permission from the owner. Archie

REALLY? Hmm, I so happen to live down in San Diego. I will cross paths with him sooner or later....

Let's try to get this thread up to date.....

More work on the front bumper









The tail lights have a little bit of a curve in them, so we have to duplicate that curve in the rear facia.





As we are at this, we are trying to get the various body panels close enough to paint that we can paint it with high build primer.

With just regular primer for now, this panel is looking good.





We are also working on mounting the lights in the front bumper.....

Working on figuring out exactly where to place them.....





Also modifying the lower front valance to mirror the lower edge of the front bumper....





Then we determine how much of a pocket we want for the lights. Flush mount or set back into a pocket.....









Then building the pocket using 2 pcs. of wooden block shaped like the lights.





Make the pockets & mounting tabs.













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Progress is looking great!
Quick question- Do you use some type of small sander to to get in the corners and crevasses?
Im prepping my Diablo kit car for a respray and need some type of small sander to get in some hard to reach small areas?
Thanks

Wrapping sandpaper around a paint stick or ruler is how I always get in the small spots.

When will the car be ready for primer?

After almost another week of sanding, filling & fixing on the car, we finally neded the week by putting on the 1st of the primer coats.

The one body mod or fix was with the 2 triangle sections to either side of the decklid & behind the OEM engine grill covers. When installed, these covers were very loosely held on with the same fasteners that held on the OEM engine covers. When we got the car the covers were in the trunk.

Here are a few pics we took when the car got here.....
Notice the gap at the front end & the fit (or lack there of) to the decklid surface.







We had to fix them to make them look as good as the rest of the car.

We had to modify the fiberglass under the triangles to get them to sit in the right place...





The whole top of the triangles was the wrong shape to match up to the decklid & surrounding panels. There also was a valley in the middle from the fiberglass sagging in the sunshine over the years. Plus there were a lot of spyder cracks in the top surfaces of the triangles.



Here you can see that the gap to the grill has been closed up



With the triangle moved up to the grill, the tail is short, we'll be making it a bit longer.



The trick here is that with moving the triangle up we would have to make new mounting for the triangles & they would have to removed before the engine covers could be removed. with the old setup the engine cover fasteners held on the front of the triangles & a single self tapping screw held on the back end.

Kris had to come up with a mounting method that didn't include self tapping screws & wing nuts.

Here he has fabricated & glassed on 2 pins & one threaded stud. The 2 pics will slide into holes in the body 7 the stud will go thru a bracket & get a nut on it. You can reach that nut thur the trunk area.







Time to fix & fit the panels















All the time this is going on, while FGlass is curing, Kris is sanding & preping for some primer...







Piling up parts.....

Archie

you n your guys are doing a great job
that is going to be the BEST Enterra by far
I am looking forward to seeing the car all put together and w/ wheels
Keep up the good work

Thanks for continuing to update this thread

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Bob

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+ for the legend of Troy!

Superb work Archie!

ANY chance of there being molds derived from this beautiful piece of work and offered to public as kit?