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Enterra "Dark Shadow" Restore Thread by Lady Lisa
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Hello everyone! I'm Lady Lisa, aka, Mrs. "troyboy". As some of you may know, I have recently purchased a Pontiac Enterra Vipre. I will be documenting the restoration and modification on this thread. Troy has told me that you guys are great help with finding out information and Photoshopping ideas, such as color, wheels, etc. Here are a few pics and a video of the car in its current condition. WARNING: She is in rough shape












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The trip to Archies:



Archie's evaluation video once it made it to his shop from Kent, Washington:

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The look I'm going for with a few changes, but I like the look of the car in black so black it will be:



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Let me be the first to say welcome to the madness .

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Let me be the first to say welcome to the madness .


LOL, me too.

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Ooooo... that top view of the black Enterra is just slick! I think you sent it into the right hands. With the right wheels and body work it'll be a head-turner for all the right reasons. Tell me though, have you considered updating the tail lights for it or do you want to keep it original? (Maybe it's just me but I find they make the rear view look too much like a Datsun). Either way, good luck.

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Report this Post06-11-2012 02:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lady LisaClick Here to Email Lady LisaSend a Private Message to Lady LisaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Thanks! Troy & I are tossing ideas for the taillights. They definitely need to be updated.

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mmmm black.

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Lisa,
Welcome to the forum and congratulations on what I think is gonna be a VERY cool project. I love the looks of that black car too and it has a very exotic shape. I would think personally that some lowering and adjusting of the stance and some much larger more update wheels would go a LONG way and personally I would go 3800 TURBO to back up the looks. That is really a unique looking car and I am quite sure Archie and CO. will take good care of it and make it the beautiful car you are dreaming of. I for one can't wait to see the finished product. There are lots of different rebodies out there for the fiero and IMHO this is one of the rarer and more attractive ones. Peace

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Thanks for the input. For the wheels, I mentioned to Troy a nice set of HRE's and he passed out. . As far as the motor, I'm looking at an LS4 Automatic.

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Widebody? :P

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For the wheels, I mentioned to Troy a nice set of HRE's and he passed out.


WHAT? Come on Troy!

IMO, a set of 505's would look great on there!

Either way, SUBSCRIBED.

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Thats a very nice project you have there... Seeing as how your married to troy I know you'll restore it with some justice..

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Report this Post06-11-2012 05:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickClick Here to Email PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I noticed the single wooden hockey stick holding up the decklid. Glad to see there's still at least a bit of the Enterra's Canadian heritage remaining!

Maybe Archie will update the decklid with dual carbon-fiber hockey sticks.

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WHAT? Come on Troy!

IMO, a set of 505's would look great on there!

Either way, SUBSCRIBED.

Agreed.....those would look tough on that particular car . They are nice strong looking wheel and obviously high quality at that price. I would prefer if the centers were polished or chromed or possibly black chrome to match the paint. Peace

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Wide body? We're still kicking around what mods will be done, but I want to keep the car as close to its original form as possible. I am still wheel shopping...perhaps HRE's will be in my Future (gotta keep the faith!)

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Thats a good investment. I hear they are worth 535,000 dollars once restored. (according to that black cars build website)

I can't wait to see how it turns out! These cars are awesome.

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I noticed the single wooden hockey stick holding up the decklid. Glad to see there's still at least a bit of the Enterra's Canadian heritage remaining!

Maybe Archie will update the decklid with dual carbon-fiber hockey sticks.



LOL, Exactly, the 1st thing I thought of when I saw the Hockey stick was that it was in keeping with the Canadian heritage of the car.

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Wide body? We're still kicking around what mods will be done, but I want to keep the car as close to its original form as possible. I am still wheel shopping...perhaps HRE's will be in my Future (gotta keep the faith!)


3 piece wheels:-)

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Truly a rare find!

Even though I like the look of the stock taillights - I think something along the lines of the Lamborghini Murcielago would look great on this style car

I don't think they are flat, but with some minor body mods then it should be no problem to blend them in

Okay I really like the look of the Lambo rear end

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Agreed.....those would look tough on that particular car . They are nice strong looking wheel and obviously high quality at that price. I would prefer if the centers were polished or chromed or possibly black chrome to match the paint. Peace

Pete


Pretty sure all those wheels are made to order. Get whatever finish your heart desires! (if you have the funds, that is)

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Actually I quite like the looks of the taillights on that car... dunno what you could do to improve them but hey anything is possible ......peace

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Report this Post06-12-2012 07:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for troyboyClick Here to Email troyboySend a Private Message to troyboyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Well the wife likes her jewelry so I will have to put a nice set of rims on it . I was thinking about 19 x 8.5 front and 19 x 10 rear.
She like these rims I saw yesterday the are Asanti AF 165, can someone please photoshop these on the car for her.
the rims




the best side shots of the car that I have

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could someone also photoshop a few tail light mods for her also thanks



First the stock Enterra lights with a smoked lens cover
and then the smoked lens cover over Two round lights

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Aight, did a quick dirty mockup using the mighty power of Paint.NET for ya. Without dimensions of the original tails, it's hard to know which round modules would work, so I just sorta guessed it with some random round combination units. YMMV.





Hope this helps guys! Curious thing this Enterra, could turn out absolutely stunning with the right massaging to the bodywork. Archie will see it right.

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Aurrgh, clearly it's late - I didn't read the whole brief. Smoked covers over two rounds. Coming right up...

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Hope this helps guys! Curious thing this Enterra, could turn out absolutely stunning with the right massaging to the bodywork. Archie will see it right.

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Agreed..... That car is quite striking in very nicely done black and if done very carefully it can look very exotic and interesting. If done poorly, well, it will look like a cheap mutant firebird wannabe. If you ask me it is the stance, you gotta get that car down to the ground and on some nice wheels and wide tires. Those asanti's are nice but look a bit too....uh... busy? The car needs some more high performance oriented EURO LOOKING wheels somehow. Those five star HRE's would work or something similar. I dunno. As far as the taillights, I like the stock smoked look. Part of what makes that car interesting is the classic retro look it has. It is like nothing else on the road today. Personally I'd try to keep it that way. The back of the car needs to sit slightly higher than the front of course but again it needs to be done tastefully and getting that nose down low would be a priority for me if it were mine. Less.....CAMARO.....more......Detomaso.......or something like that. Oh and the center mounted exhaust with four tips would be sweet!! hehe Enjoy building it..... I think Archie will get it right. Peace

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Lisa welcome !

Your car has soooo much potential. Like someone said with the right touches you will have an exotic looking stunner.

Got my popcorn and soda ready !

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Thanks so much for the Photoshop rending for the taillights. I'm am leaning towards the stock Enterra lights with the smoke glass; updates the car without changing its original style. Now, as far as the wheels, I reserving my judgement until I see them photoshopped on the car. I'm asking Troy to post the HRE's I like as well.

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Welcome!!!

Can't wait to watch this build.

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Thanks so much for the Photoshop rending for the taillights. I'm am leaning towards the stock Enterra lights with the smoke glass; updates the car without changing its original style. Now, as far as the wheels, I reserving my judgement until I see them photoshopped on the car. I'm asking Troy to post the HRE's I like as well.


Damn where's the "LIKE" button....hehe peace

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Pete, that's funny! Troy was showing me the mod for the exhaust over the weekend. I am considering it.

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Cool.... personally the center exit exhaust makes it look all yummy and stuff....hehehe I would do four tasteful chrome tipped pipes. Make people wonder just what the hell is under the decklid...They are gonna wonder what the hell it is anyways because until I first saw one here I'd never heard or seen anything like it either and I pride myself on knowing the makes and models of obscure sportscars. Peace

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Thanks guys for helping Lisa, she is very excited about her new ride. I will try and find good shots of the HRE 505 and the ones she really likes the hre 454 for photoshop. Pete I agree that a nice set of 5 star rims may also look good just have to find the right ones ( maybe Forgeline SP3P or S03P )
The more I look at the car the more I lean towards keeping it mostly stock with updated tail lights ( just smoked), tail pipe mod (2 to 4 tips centered), rear deck lid scoop mod like the black car ( lisa really likes that mod), update the side marker lights (looks funny with just the ribbed molding lights with out the molding), low profile head lights. Lisa has her work cut out for her as I'm just giving her ideas but she will make all decisions (even the wheels ) to make this truly her car. We were looking at modifying a widebody rocker but i feel that the center line on the door sits to low and a modified Madarch rocker would not look good and it would start to clutter up the side of the car.

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Troy and Lisa, you can go to the Vrimz.com website and click the link for the lite version simulator. Then upload a pic of the car and you can choose what wheels you want. They have pretty much every brand including the ones you want on the car. If you register, you can upload your picture and tweak the sizes

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Troy,
IMNSHO.....this looks dead sexy. I also like the decklid scoop on that car. Almost did not notice it. Very cool car. Good luck with it man. Gonna be a looker for sure. Peace
http://www.86enterraviper.c...gepics/polished2.jpg


Oh yeah I almost forgot.... So is it called a Pontiac Enterra or what?

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Troy and Lisa, you can go to the Vrimz.com website and click the link for the lite version simulator. Then upload a pic of the car and you can choose what wheels you want. They have pretty much every brand including the ones you want on the car. If you register, you can upload your picture and tweak the sizes




Thanks for the photoshop and info on the website... Lisa will be up all night LOL

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Troy,
IMNSHO.....this looks dead sexy. I also like the decklid scoop on that car. Almost did not notice it. Very cool car. Good luck with it man. Gonna be a looker for sure. Peace
http://www.86enterraviper.c...gepics/polished2.jpg


Oh yeah I almost forgot.... So is it called a Pontiac Enterra or what?

Pete



I think it was just called Enterra Vipre

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Oh yeah I almost forgot.... So is it called a Pontiac Enterra or what?



It's an Enterra Vipre. And "Vipre" is spelled with an "re", not "er"... because it's Canadian, eh!

[EDIT] Troy, I didn't see your post when I posted, but yeah, you got it right.

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It's an Enterra Vipre. And "Vipre" is spelled with an "re", not "er"... because it's Canadian, eh!


Thanks Patrick.... it surely must be one of the two really cool things ever to come out of Canada no? Hehe JK..peace

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