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Madcurl's Arch Rival !! by exoticse
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Bump for updates.

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Bump for updates.


#020 is on the, "slow-cook-back- burner" due to D7. I did ship out the C6 rear side-marker lamps for the rear clip and the VDC kit from Jerry in FL should arrive on Monday. I doubt the "Crew" will have any updated info.




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Looks interesting.. so is that the final shape?

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Originally posted by doublec4:

Looks interesting.. so is that the final shape?


Nope. According to my drawing, I count at least three to four more additions. I hope to make the front end "pop" or at least match the rear. So far, I think the lower nose and fog opening are on track?

I've never been a fan of the (pardon the pun) fan assembly in plan view. It looked, unfinished and diffenitly un-tweaked. The downside is: It's a one-off piece. It would have been nice if the C6 flipper was made like this from the begining. I'll pray every time I take #020 out for a spin.

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Originally posted by doublec4:

Looks interesting.. so is that the final shape?



Although the C6 flipper has "evolved" from it's original concept over the past year, the cut-out upper scoop-tips and central wiper blade are a "bonus" blessing that wasn't noticed in the begining. Several people here have aided in tweaking the crap out of this mod. This isn't a "one-man-show" it's a group project. Positive and negetive construction is always welcome.

Thank you.

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Projected style (thus so far, hehe).



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I see where you're going to hide 'da crawww'. A scoop within a scoop with the single wiper motor under the bit-o-cardboard!

Looks real interesting!

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Bump for updates.


The GT40 part has landed. Let the tweaking begin, hehe.




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Curley, the Vertical door kits are in....







They look good so far, but we won't have time to install them until next Wednesday.

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Thanks Archie for posting the pics. I can see from the pics, these VDC are better than my previous sets. It seems Jerry is on his J-O-B.

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havent been on the forum in a while but i just got back on today to check the progress on the car and i have come to a conclusion that probebly everyone else here has probebly made....curley is crazy theres no other word for it...and its great i'm lovin the build and i plan to keep a close watch on it

-Kaleb

p.s.-sorry for goin a little off topic here archie but how long does it take from the time someone sends their fiero to you for a chop top to the time you complete it i've been thinking about getting one but i wanted to know the time span first, thanks

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Hey Archie, or Curly.....any updates on the GT40 air vents? And are you going to remove the existing vent that you created beside the rear glass, or is the picture a little deceiving?? The GT40 vent looks pretty long.
I can hardly wait!!!

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Curley, the Vertical door kits are in....







They look good so far, but we won't have time to install them until next Wednesday.

Archie

how much are those and where did you get them?

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well archie i cant figure out how your going to make that vent work unless the picture jus makes the vent look bigger than it is...buuut im sure you'll find some way...and if you would like to tell us what that way would be it would be appreciated

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Updates!!!!

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well archie i cant figure out how your going to make that vent work unless the picture jus makes the vent look bigger than it is...buuut im sure you'll find some way...and if you would like to tell us what that way would be it would be appreciated

-Kaleb


Looks to me like there is going to be one of those on each side of the rear window to vent engine heat.

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yeah but unless that pictures jus at a wierd angle tht would mean taking out those scoops they made with the spray bottle to make that other vent fit but i've been lookin at the picture and curly's drawing and im thinkin that the pictures just decieving and the vent isnt as big as it looks

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b-bump!

updates updates updates!

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Hey Archie! It's past next Wednesday! Pics of the install!!

Pretty please??

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Hey Archie! It's past next Wednesday! Pics of the install!!

Pretty please??

Dave


AS of right now, the hinges are not a direct bolt on. Curley & the FL connection are trying to sort out what "Bolt-on" means.

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Has worked resumed on the bodywork for #20 ?

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i'm with exoticse...any new work done???

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i'm with exoticse...any new work done???

-Kaleb


Yes. But the coverage is on the, "Anyone Really Interested in a Widebody" thread. From this point onward, "The Crew" is working of the remaining widebody mods. The rear bumber is about finished,...mocked-up and being prep'd for glassing. The only items that's different is the hood scoop. They should have it finished prior to the Dells (I hope?). Keep in mind, they're finishing up the other guys LS2 and Troy's car, so the shop is really, really super busy.

Thanks for your enquiries.

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Yes. But the coverage is on the, "Anyone Really Interested in a Widebody" thread. From this point onward, "The Crew" is working of the remaining widebody mods. The rear bumber is about finished,...mocked-up and being prep'd for glassing. The only items that's different is the hood scoop. They should have it finished prior to the Dells (I hope?). Keep in mind, they're finishing up the other guys LS2 and Troy's car, so the shop is really, really super busy.

Thanks for your enquiries.


Like he says, the Widebody thread http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/064001.html is dealing with making the molds off of the rear of this car. Then we'll be back to the rest of this thread.

The other thread is seperate because it's dealing with the actual making of the molds off of part of Curl's car.

Here's a sample of what you'll see in the other thread.



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Madcurl.. any update on the VDC hinges?

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Madcurl.. any update on the VDC hinges?




The Fiero VDC's are in transit and should arrive this Friday.

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The Fiero VDC's are in transit and should arrive this Friday.


Cool. Do you know how much they are going to run?

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Cool. Do you know how much they are going to run?


Jerry told me $1900 but, as you know.....you can always talk him down if two or more guys jump onboard. I purchased two----more room to make a deal. The kit listing is about $1499 and DECAH listing is $1299 however, the two dudes in Canada may have a cheaper kit? I do like the VDI kit over the DECAH with grease fittings and the strut housing is opposite of DECAH's which prevents water from entering the strut.

IMO I'd wait it out and then see what's, what. They still need to make the needed adjustments and to send it to Archie. My previous Fiero VDC are still functioning and it's nearing 4 yrs and I'm pretty much, "done" with the VDC since all but one Fiero is with-out the kit. Don't get me wrong, I still like them but, just like rims...I consider them standard equipment for a choptop. A reverse VDC would spark my interest. Darn it, I just realised I get very borred..easily.

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Jerry told me $1900 but, as you know.....you can always talk him down if two or more guys jump onboard. I purchased two----more room to make a deal. The kit listing is about $1499 and DECAH listing is $1299 however, the two dudes in Canada may have a cheaper kit? I do like the VDI kit over the DECAH with grease fittings and the strut housing is opposite of DECAH's which prevents water from entering the strut.

IMO I'd wait it out and then see what's, what. They still need to make the needed adjustments and to send it to Archie. My previous Fiero VDC are still functioning and it's nearing 4 yrs and I'm pretty much, "done" with the VDC since all but one Fiero is with-out the kit. Don't get me wrong, I still like them but, just like rims...I consider them standard equipment for a choptop. A reverse VDC would spark my interest. Darn it, I just realised I get very borred..easily.



Autoloc done a suicide lambo door set up, third down on the left of movie clips.
http://www.thehoffmangroup....t/Products_UDS.lasso

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Autoloc done a suicide lambo door set up, third down on the left of movie clips.
http://www.thehoffmangroup....t/Products_UDS.lasso




Yep. They also are the ones comming out the $4500 dollar door system. That's some high-ended items. Too much for me.

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A reverse VDC would spark my interest. Darn it, I just realised I get very borred..easily.



"We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard." - JFK

Maybe Reverse VDCs were among the "other things"

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"We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard." - JFK

Maybe Reverse VDCs were among the "other things"


Yeah, we'll need somebody with "skills" to pull this one off. That person should already know how-to build a reinforced suicide doors on a Fiero and the crew to perform it. I wonder who that would be?

So one would include the cost of a normal Fiero suicide conversion ($$$$) + $4500 for the kit+ = maga buck-a-roos!

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Autoloc done a suicide lambo door set up, third down on the left of movie clips.
http://www.thehoffmangroup....t/Products_UDS.lasso



I watched that clip and that looks like a half A$$ed lambo door. it only goes up about half way and stops

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Has anyone calculated the lift caused by the butress setup as opposed to the closed back?

I think it looks amazing and will defininently be a rival for madcurl's car but -
This isnt just this fiero, but most of them: it looks like theres a big v8 under the hood. This is especcially true when people are adding the cowls on the hood (and trying to say it improves airflow; a larger radiator intake and inverted louvers on the hood would do much better...there's a reason racing cars use this setup). The main part of the illusion, however, is that the line where the door and windows meet gets broken with the front fender. Is the chassis in the way or could this line be made more fluid with some FB work?

It looks amazing, but its so much more a muscule car look than a mid engine lightweight exotic.

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Has anyone calculated the lift caused by the butress setup as opposed to the closed back?

I think it looks amazing and will defininently be a rival for madcurl's car but -
This isnt just this fiero, but most of them: it looks like theres a big v8 under the hood. This is especcially true when people are adding the cowls on the hood (and trying to say it improves airflow; a larger radiator intake and inverted louvers on the hood would do much better...there's a reason racing cars use this setup). The main part of the illusion, however, is that the line where the door and windows meet gets broken with the front fender. Is the chassis in the way or could this line be made more fluid with some FB work?

It looks amazing, but its so much more a muscule car look than a mid engine lightweight exotic.


Thanks for the compliments...it's been a [group] effort build-up. #020 sports a normal Northstar V8...CA emissions complience crap! However, it's all good because anything is better than the stock 2.8 I previously had, hehe.

As for the "Air flow" rates....no such testing. The project was based upon "pipe dream" rendering and loosly following ideas from various cars. However, as you perhaps have noticed in prior pages, I'm going with the GT40 style openings for additional "air-flow." Archie, the Crew, and I have a few more tricks up our sleeves to which I hope will incorporate both the Meguier's bottle and a modified GT40 elongated vent. The end result (I hope?) will be similar the the Audi's R8 rear deck vents.

As for the "Cowl" hood. As you've guessed it, more for looks since I'm not racing however it is functional. The "Cowl or hood scoop" serves it purpose by hidding the large opening and gives the hood, "Depth" and creates a flare next to the front window which will aid in hidding the "Crab arm" single wiper blade.

You lost-me on the part about, "is that the line where the door and windows meet gets broken with the front fender. Is the chassis in the way or could this line be made more fluid with some FB work?" I guess your referring to the area where it separates? That part isn't finished.

The over-all look of the car is (IMO) Americanish and not Italian exotic.

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I watched that clip and that looks like a half A$$ed lambo door. it only goes up about half way and stops


I think you are being a bit harsh. If you think about how these things work, the only reason a normal lambo door is possible is because the front fender has a lot of room under there for all the mechanism and the front of the car angles down making room for the door to swing up. There are serious clearance issues with a suicide lambo. Even more so if you have a wide body. Retrofitting a suicide lambo onto a car not originally designed for it is going to result in a door that swings up by that amount.

By the way I looked at a Solstice today I don't think we will ever see a Lambo door on that car, there is no room at all for the hinge mechanism.

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By the way I looked at a Solstice today I don't think we will ever see a Lambo door on that car, there is no room at all for the hinge mechanism.


You better stay away from the Solstice forum then.

Yeah, they're doing them on the Solsti already.



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While working on the mold for the rear bumper, we hung the Widebody rocker panels on the car today to see how they looked.







They match up pretty well.

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Not bad, not bad at all. It looks like it's going to be a very nice [white] X-mas on my way back to Cali.

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You better stay away from the Solstice forum then.

Yeah, they're doing them on the Solsti already.

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Wow, I am impressed. There is no room whatsoever under that fender. If a Solstice can have vertical doors then it should be a piece of cake on a Fiero.

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That looks sweet!! If I didn't think it would add 2 more years on the completion of my car I would go widebody.

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