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A Real Mera in Paradise by Fiero-in-Paradise
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Good catch, I missed that one. All Mera's could get leather installed by CC. However it was different than the factory Pontiac leather in my car. With the CC leather the carpeting was changed to cut pile as I recall. The 87 Mera here in El Paso has the CC tan leather interior in it. The seats look similar to Dan's and the console and door panels resemble Tom's interior.


hey Rick....does the 1987 ElPaso Mera have the cut pile carpet?

and do we all feel that there is a difference in the 87 leather tuck and roll compared to the 1988 (Toms) tuck and roll??
according to that letter....the 1988 was to get a redesigned leather treatment.
but maybe that was canceled because of the phasing out of the Fiero.

and speaking of Toms Mera if he has a Formula and he has leather seats, does that mean his seats are the new Mera leather seats??

i have to stop with questions and do more staring.....i can not quite see the change. i thought TOMMY had the Fiero leather seats......

later
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I think you guys in here know more about Meras than most people who worked on building the original ones. The amount of detail you get into is amazing.



Product knowledge is an "affliction" with me. Don't get me started on new Corvettes........

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is there any meras 4 sale right now besides the proto?

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is there any meras 4 sale right now besides the proto?


yulp....i think the one in Jeresy/NewYork is still available......and the San Diego one....BOTH 19987s so you know.

sooo it seems you Need a Mera....was wondering what was what.....good hunting.

always check EBay and some local to you Craigslist.....if you find one ANYWHERE, bring it here and we will rip it apart for ya well i will....the rest give great advice....i love pictures. *disclaim* i keep every Mera pic i scrounge....so you also know that....i got numbers..... wait, lets see BINGO!!

http://www.collectorcarads.com/Pontiac-Mera/29869

If this is still around it has been for over a .....knock that price down 4-6 grand and become a Mera.
call her and get the VIN and post it here and send a PM to Rodney...both his real name and screen name....he has a registery and its in there but i cant remember the number....i wanna say #7056.

i see these seats too.....i forgot about them

http://www.autotrader.com/f...jsp?car_id=280915723

and this guy.....$14,500 in this economy unless he bid on his own stuff... he should have took that.

*edit* ha went to fix a mistake and found this too.......
http://www.collectorcarads.com/Pontiac-MERA/37160

and must mention that the OP here in Paradise Tom is selling still too i think......eh, TOM???? you sellin??

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With the CC leather the carpeting was changed to cut pile as I recall.



Interestingly--just noticed after two years with the car--there is cut pile carpet in the document "cubby" at the drivers elbow.

 
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.and the San Diego one....


So, what's with that SD car--been on the market forever. Seems like a pretty nice car and decent price.

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I just clicked this photo of the RPO sticker on my 88 Fiero GT T-top parts car. As you can see column two from the left top "CJB". This car was ordered from the factory to have a T-top. When it came off the assembily line, it was sent to C&C for the conversion then on to the dealer.



Had the "CJB" not been on the RPO sticker but the car had the T-top. Ether the dealer sent the car "OR" the owner took it themself to C&C!

Tim Perrgo who bought out Farmont Skylite (C&C) still does the T-top conversions about 20 minutes from my house! www.fieroparts.com

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Product knowledge is an "affliction" with me. Don't get me started on new Corvettes........


ha! you mean the "NEW" mid engine Vette?? i dont know yet. i could be cool.......i have to see it first. oh and here it, too!!

so LEEZARD?? i got the red/black 87 Mera in IL as Mera #7064


and if memory serves the Jesery one is Mera #7056.....not to sure
but if you call these folks score a VIN to get a nod from Rodney before you buy. he helped me in my decision and i am sooooooo glad i did

later for taters......

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I just clicked this photo of the RPO sticker on my 88 Fiero GT T-top parts car. As you can see column two from the left top "CJB". This car was ordered from the factory to have a T-top. When it came off the assembily line, it was sent to C&C for the conversion then on to the dealer.


Had the "CJB" not been on the RPO sticker but the car had the T-top. Ether the dealer sent the car "OR" the owner took it themself to C&C!

Tim Perrgo who bought out Farmont Skylite (C&C) still does the T-top conversions about 20 minutes from my house! www.fieroparts.com


now to find a Mera with that code......thats good info.
cool, thats a code that did not show much on a sheet of such.....*rightclicksave* thanks


Richard.....i think he aint got enough advertizing.....hit Ebay once and i bet, poof gone
not real modivated, maybe. down in Deep South Cali would you?? no wait scratch that you are in AZ soooo...i should know better
i would $7-8 grand this car and see what shakes......

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hey Rick....does the 1987 ElPaso Mera have the cut pile carpet?

and do we all feel that there is a difference in the 87 leather tuck and roll compared to the 1988 (Toms) tuck and roll??
according to that letter....the 1988 was to get a redesigned leather treatment.
but maybe that was canceled because of the phasing out of the Fiero.

and speaking of Toms Mera if he has a Formula and he has leather seats, does that mean his seats are the new Mera leather seats??

i have to stop with questions and do more staring.....i can not quite see the change. i thought TOMMY had the Fiero leather seats......

later
Daniel


As I recall the 87 here does have cut pile carpeting.

Tom's leather seats are unique to what I have seen in other Meras and do not match mine. My leather seat pattern is exactly the same as I have seen in other non Mera, 88 GT's with this option.

I cannot say if Tom's seats are original CC leather for an 88. I would imagine they are considering Tom's car is very low mileage. All I know is that the 87 car here in El Paso has your seat pattern.

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So, what's with that SD car--been on the market forever. Seems like a pretty nice car and decent price.



This is the car that I was thinking might be a CJB. He originally was a $14k. I looked at it before I bought mine. I even like yellow. However the last picture of the engine just killed it for me. At his current price the car is looking much better, even if the engine is a grease pit.

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I cannot say if Tom's seats are original CC leather for an 88.


I have Tom's sister car (8046) and have the same seat cover and center console design.

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Here is the RPO sticker for Mera 8141 with factory order T-top!!.



"CJB" second column from the left, second from the bottom.

And I know where she is right now .........

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Here are a few pics of Mera 8008 with the leather package.





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Here are a few pics of Mera 8008 with the leather package.







whoa, nice......WAIT!!! WHERE DID YOU GET THESE??

i know where i got mine from but if i may ask....how did you come by these??

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Here is the RPO sticker for Mera 8141 with factory order T-top!!.

"CJB" second column from the left, second from the bottom.

And I know where she is right now .........


where?? thats the one of one so far to my knowledge.....anybody else??

your pics of #8008 are monumental....to me. got any more??
i cant believe it.......way more to come, hopefully. this Mera X story may top out here, no kidding
that big........i am amazed how far i have come with X to be writing this.....now. i gotta know whats up with them pics.....
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Mera 8008 is a T-top Mera BUT not "CJB" T-top Mera.

Mera 8008 used to reside in New Hampshire. I visited 8008 while she was getting her 3800 Turbo conversion. 8008 currently resides in Florida owned by the owner of Bob Bracey's black 88 (no build number) Mera.

I have vast Mera and Fiero files ........ Makes ya want to come visit Maine doesn't it Daniel!

"To steal my computer"

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Mera 8008 is a T-top Mera BUT not "CJB" T-top Mera.

Mera 8008 used to reside in New Hampshire. I visited 8008 while she was getting her 3800 Turbo conversion. 8008 currently resides in Florida owned by the owner of Bob Bracey's black 88 (no build number) Mera.

I have vast Mera and Fiero files ........ Makes ya want to come visit Maine doesn't it Daniel!

"To steal my computer"


well yeah....and it makes me want to mention i got my Mera from that guy with the Meras you Mention....Heath!
i bought his "Stock" 1987 Mera....i think he has my Carello Amber tail lights on the 3800 and i have his Fords on X.....there is a post he made a while back about my car having a 308 configuration here on the PFF.....small world huh?? i think he moved too somewhere by Richard, now.

Daniel

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its funny i even have one of them black retangle boxes like in the pic above...by the shifter...HD radio set up. i took mine out i listen to non radio music...later for today for now we

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i think he moved too somewhere by Richard, now.

Daniel



His mother lives near me. He waved me over on the road here about a year ago--had a nice chat.

OBTW, my interior is like 8008--nice pics!

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His mother lives near me. He waved me over on the road here about a year ago--had a nice chat.

OBTW, my interior is like 8008--nice pics!



so the smooth leather is the Mera leather redesign??

thats funny.....Richard are you saying Heath waved you over in your Mera?? hahahaa too funny!
that guy Heath is Mera Gonzo for what he owns......kick ass!!

now, i think the new Camaro is hokey, but this i would own! and add a better paint more wild paint.
I would START with them plain rear fender gills.
i would paint them red or something then a stripe on the hood over to the trunk.....or maybe a red Grand Sport " / / "
oooooooh even better..... two red lightning bolts for the SS package

http://classiccars.com/list...utm_campaign=general

and what the heck is this??? LS3!!! really?? oh yeah!!

http://classiccars.com/list...utm_campaign=general

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I have Tom's sister car (8046) and have the same seat cover and center console design.



Richard,

Does you car have the same light colored cut pile carpeting? In the photos, it looks much lighter than the leather. Was the carpeting all done in this shade with the Mera installed Beechwood leather?

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Richard,

Does you car have the same light colored cut pile carpeting? In the photos, it looks much lighter than the leather. Was the carpeting all done in this shade with the Mera installed Beechwood leather? Also does your car have the wood grain trim around the vents? I don't recall this being a Mera option.


Oops!

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so i must report we have a situation.....the first thing to go bad on Mera X, wheel bearring.

not bad for three hard seasons.....i drive like i stole it, cuz at the price i got it at, i did!!
hahahahaaaaaaa......in this current asking price enviroment.
off the the parts store, later
Daniel

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Richard,

Does you car have the same light colored cut pile carpeting? In the photos, it looks much lighter than the leather. Was the carpeting all done in this shade with the Mera installed Beechwood leather?


Yes. The lighting or the film--film, what's that?--seems to be giving it a green cast in these pics, but yes, I believe it's the same carpet. I really don't like the stuff, but plan to keep it as original.

OBTW, another non-stock item on #8046, is the faux key lock on the left sail grille--ala f-car filler cap access.

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so i must report we have a situation.....the first thing to go bad on Mera X, wheel bearring.

not bad for three hard seasons.....i drive like i stole it, cuz at the price i got it at, i did!!
hahahahaaaaaaa......in this current asking price enviroment.
off the the parts store, later
Daniel



use quality parts or youll have trouble again shortly

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Yes. The lighting or the film--film, what's that?--seems to be giving it a green cast in these pics, but yes, I believe it's the same carpet. I really don't like the stuff, but plan to keep it as original.

OBTW, another non-stock item on #8046, is the faux key lock on the left sail grille--ala f-car filler cap access.


Quite a bit of difference from my GT interior. I emailed you a pic to compare.

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Leezard, did you come across those MERA letters for the rear deck?

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WOW! check out the year of the corvette engine in this!!
amazing..........

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...&hash=item3368aa3e06

so i went for a test drive with the bearing install....damn old ones been bad since i got it or round abouts there after.
soo quiet now it is amazing

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WOW! check out the year of the corvette engine in this!!
amazing..........

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...&hash=item3368aa3e06

so i went for a test drive with the bearing install....damn old ones been bad since i got it or round abouts there after.
soo quiet now it is amazing



Funny.....it took a while to sink in but that car is for sale by Demitrios who owns Exotic Illusions. He makes and sells his own Lambo replicas. I wonder why he is selling that one?

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Leezard, did you come across those MERA letters for the rear deck?


dont have the M right now, have the E R A tho. sold last two complete sets to a member here.

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Funny.....it took a while to sink in but that car is for sale by Demitrios who owns Exotic Illusions. He makes and sells his own Lambo replicas. I wonder why he is selling that one?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...&hash=item3368ca1175

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...&hash=item3368ca3e33

dudes got like 3 on Ebay right now....or at least when i posted this yesterday. i hhave to check again, but he had at least three open auctions at that time and mentioned to to a guy that a red one was for sale too *EDIT*( found it above)....look cool and i bet the sound follows suit!! thats some money for one tho....in a different time it would be mine!! I love the Countach. with any of his engine combos and i will be hurd not seen for the blur.....Reowwwwwoooowwwwwhhhh!!

i like this one too they all seem to command a good price, these lambos sure do. Nice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...&hash=item1e64639d60

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but you know for $50,000 i can do better i think

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...&hash=item35b2c40674

holy crap thats sweet lookin



i like the orange better ....in person anyway.hehe

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Quite a bit of difference from my GT interior. I emailed you a pic to compare.


Yeah, got the pics--nice! I think the upholstery and the two-tone dash are just the differences between the GT and the SE--interesting that they re-carpeted both cars. I have the same floor mats, too--do you think those were included in the package?

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hey you two cant have you own convo.....bust them pics yo!!

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hey you two cant have you own convo.....bust them pics yo!!

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OK, OK--you already have mine. Rick's will be a great add to your gallery. On the other hand we are the only desert rats here.

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i see. keeping it in the community....its cool i was joking anyway.
he may have posted them already, i just like phote-graphs, as you well know. carry on

i have seen some Meras with the colth interior too.
wish i had the leather door and center treatments sad panda again

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My MERA is a Formula.....she 'had" cloth interior and drab grey carpet. I figured if I was going to redo the interior, I would do it right. Custom Mr. Mike's two tone light/dark grey lether seats monogrammed with build code. Black plush carpeting. Matching two tone on the door skins and new roof liner. While I was at it, I soundproofed the floors and added the factory sub with under console amp and dome light selection control. I tried to install a Grand AM stereo that looked just like the 88 Fiero one BUT with the CD rather than the cassette... I may have bought a bad one on e-bay or maybe I just don't know what I'm doing. I'll try again in the winter. For those who have not seen it, here is a small pic.


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Let me get this straight...... are you saying that back in the late 80's when I ordered a MERA I can order a Fiero with no leather and have it refitted to leather at CC???? That makes no sence. Why would I not just order one with leather and save $$$??? Let CC do the body restyle. I guess if you wanted the cool GTS seats you had to order the CC leather job. Are we all positive about this? Rodney?

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Hey Julian, the Mera leather package was also the tuck and rolled door panels, map pockets, center counsel treatment
and some have the tuck and roll on the passenger side, "Glove Box" area or where it would be if the Fiero had a G.B. in the traditional spot
along with the reverse Ferrari Stitch seats....

Mera #7004 the "Swedish Mera"



*edit* i knew i had a pic of the GB treatment.........


now this is still up for debate the GB addition. it looks too puffy to me.....

and if this is the OEM Fiero Leather.

then the smooth Mera leather above must be the re-design Mera interior as questioned a few posts back

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I tried to install a Grand AM stereo that looked just like the 88 Fiero one BUT with the CD rather than the cassette... I may have bought a bad one on e-bay or maybe I just don't know what I'm doing.
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I understand some of those Grand Am slide in, plug compatible radios have to be "recoded" in order to play in the Fiero--I'll try to find where I read that.

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