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A Real Mera in Paradise by Fiero-in-Paradise
Started on: 08-18-2009 04:06 AM
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Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

To the left is the driver side door that looks like its popped open a bit and to the right is the lower left rear quarter panel....I think.



Thanks--mine's painted.

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looks very nice tom.
dan, i have the grill mesh in the air scoop area as well. and at the bottom of my doors is also a sticker looking stuff.
mike in oklahoma



hope this is a 1987 thing? the 88's seem to be painted....the sticker is harder to apply.... more labor intensive. is it not??hummm!?!?!
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Another Mera "indicator" may be the piece added to the top of the interior door panel that follows the exterior body panel which is higher than the stock Fiero. I have seen some "kits" that do not have this addition and you can see the back of the exterior body panel through the window.

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mera's are fieros too

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Another Mera "indicator" may be the piece added to the top of the interior door panel that follows the exterior body panel which is higher than the stock Fiero. I have seen some "kits" that do not have this addition and you can see the back of the exterior body panel through the window.



yup. this one is already on the list for sure.
actually Rodney told me this fact before i bought the car, totally helped me push the "pay now" button.
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hey guys?
i bumped my Mera Page to the front of the Technical Discussion section. as an invitation to you all.
come join me there if you feel. later
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mera's are fieros too.

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and speaking of Fieros!
do these rims look like the stock ?pentangle? Fiero GT wheels that are in the picture from the sales brouchure? the "86 Mera"


this car is so BADD..i love that dark red..
I may have to consider a paint rim combo for the future!
so many choices soo little time on a timecard at work,damn.
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mera's are fieros too.


I'm not sure what your point is, but for me, if the Mera wasn't a Fiero first I wouldn't be driving one. You can't be too subtle with old guys or they won't get it.

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Originally posted by batousai666:

and speaking of Fieros!
do these rims look like the stock ?pentangle? Fiero GT wheels that are in the picture from the sales brouchure? the "86 Mera"


this car is so BADD..i love that dark red..
I may have to consider a paint rim combo for the future!
so many choices soo little time on a timecard at work,damn.
bye
D


You could duplicate the lace wheel look with late 80's Trans Am GTA 16 in. wheels and some adapters, or just paint some Fiero GT 15 in.wheels gold and use some spacers to move them out a bit.

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good point. SPACERS!!!!
this is the spacer on my car now.


deeze.....mugs are big hunks of aluminum. offset right here.

wonder if these will work on them T.A. rims?thanks for that idea, Man.
more investigation is a foot. indeed.

What kind of wheels DO i have to use with a engine swap? need a "z'' rated tire for sure.'tis gotta handle and hold on to them horsies. HEY Mike! hook a brother up. stick your head in, please.
What kind of wheel/rim combo should i use Guys? hello, any body out there, Tom? Nelson? I bet Fiero X knows!
Later
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for my engine swaps you will need a y rated tire. mike

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I am using the Chromadoras on two of the MERAs (88s) with 265 x 50 x 15 tires from Dunlop. The 87 has aftermarket wheels and the same size tires. I would love to get some equivalent size tires in a T or higher speed rating but have not been able to locate any. Let me know if you manage to find some.

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good point. SPACERS!!!!
this is the spacer on my car now.


deeze.....mugs are big hunks of aluminum. offset right here.

wonder if these will work on them T.A. rims?thanks for that idea, Man.
more investigation is a foot. indeed.

What kind of wheels DO i have to use with a engine swap? need a "z'' rated tire for sure.'tis gotta handle and hold on to them horsies. HEY Mike! hook a brother up. stick your head in, please.
What kind of wheel/rim combo should i use Guys? hello, any body out there, Tom? Nelson? I bet Fiero X knows!
Later
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nelson go to the tirerack.com and plug in your specific size and they will bring up all brands that apply and the different speed ratings as well. mike

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right on Mike, that is good info. thanks. Y rating. i'll have to read up on tires. as far as the rims go. what would you suggest, for the high h.p.? i read bad things about spacers and horsepower? will do more seeking on the net. thanks again-
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Unfortunately, this yields zero tires found for my stock size (265 x 50 x 15). Even if I drop to 245 tires, only one is available and it is a track tire (Hosier) with no warranty. They make very little in wide 50 series tires with 15 inch rims.

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nelson go to the tirerack.com and plug in your specific size and they will bring up all brands that apply and the different speed ratings as well. mike


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nelson go to the tirerack.com and plug in your specific size and they will bring up all brands that apply and the different speed ratings as well. mike



Going to tire rack is a waste of time. They only sell a average selection of tire sizes. Google the tire size and you will find plenty.

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Unfortunately, this yields zero tires found for my stock size (265 x 50 x 15). Even if I drop to 245 tires, only one is available and it is a track tire (Hosier) with no warranty. They make very little in wide 50 series tires with 15 inch rims.

Nelson



BFG TA's come in 265,275, and even 295/50/15's if you really want to fill up your rear wheel wells.

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good point. SPACERS!!!!
this is the spacer on my car now.


deeze.....mugs are big hunks of aluminum. offset right here.

wonder if these will work on them T.A. rims?thanks for that idea, Man.
more investigation is a foot. indeed.

What kind of wheels DO i have to use with a engine swap? need a "z'' rated tire for sure.'tis gotta handle and hold on to them horsies. HEY Mike! hook a brother up. stick your head in, please.
What kind of wheel/rim combo should i use Guys? hello, any body out there, Tom? Nelson? I bet Fiero X knows!
Later
D



Your spacers look to be adapters also since there are two different size bolt patterns on them. Get any stock GM A or F body wheel to see it they will bolt on. How wide are the spacers, and do you tires rub?

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On a different subject: Using the remote on the dash, my deck lid is so heavy that it won't "pop up" enough to clear the latch mechanism--when the solenoid is "unpowered" the lid stays locked. I was thinking of a strategically placed foam block that would hold it clear of the latch.

Anyone else experienced this--what was your solution?

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Same here, decklid is heavy, but it does pop (unlock) open. I have dual struts, but I doubt that makes a difference when the lid is in that position. Foam block may help, but not sure how long the "springness" would last. A strategically-placed hood spring may the the way to go. Wonder if there is a way to increase the spring tension on the torsion springs?

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Paul V installed Rodney's struts on the car before I bought it--they do a great job holding up the deck, but you are correct, don't help much in that position. Vector analysis would suggest that the downward force is greatest in the near closed position--cosine alpha sort of thing.

Maybe a piece of my Temperpedic mattress would work (I don't really have a Temperpedic mattress).

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Just attempted a solution: This is black packing foam--not gray as it appears in the photo--that I Trim Tacked to the deck lid. Quite unobtrusive visually--good color match.



It closes into the dip in the tail light panel.



When closed it is unobtrusive (did I already use that word?).



Oh, one other thing--it works pretty good. Probably will crush over time, but I have lots of this stuff. And as you will note, it took about 1/4 of play out of the latch--probably should adjust that.

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Looks like the same issue here. Decklid pops up but will not stay up without a prop rod. Can the tension springs be readjusted to another slot.

Also do any of your Meras have the rubber '"recall weatherstrip" at the back edge of the decklid to seal against ther rear window. My 88 GT has this, but the Mera does not.

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I opted for Rodney's double piston air/hydraulic cylinders to get away from the original spring. It also makes it easier to install some replacement engines. They have worked well for a couple of years. All of my MERAs release the latch with the remote release equipment.

None of my MERAs have the recall weather strip installed.

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Looks like the same issue here. Decklid pops up but will not stay up without a prop rod. Can the tension springs be readjusted to another slot.

Also do any of your Meras have the rubber '"recall weatherstrip" at the back edge of the decklid to seal against ther rear window. My 88 GT has this, but the Mera does not.


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On a different subject: Using the remote on the dash, my deck lid is so heavy that it won't "pop up" enough to clear the latch mechanism--when the solenoid is "unpowered" the lid stays locked. I was thinking of a strategically placed foam block that would hold it clear of the latch.

Anyone else experienced this--what was your solution?



my Trans Am has adjustable rubber screw in things. 2 of them in the corners. pops right up.


just find a spot and drill a hole.
as for the tire question, no the tires do not rub. even on hard corners. I know cuz, all corners are hard corners, the way i drive. i have yet to take off the rims so i do not know the measurement sorry.
Dan

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Dick, I agree with you. I have the same "plush" carpet. When I removed my center console to install my guage wires, I noticed that they just glued it right on top of the original carpeting. Thus, its really thick against the console area, and the seats drag against it in this area. Would be nice to find out the name of the company that was sub-contracted out to do the interior (I believe yours is just like mine). Just something to add to the history of the car. Wonder if it would still be in business? Rodney says it was not done by Corporate Concepts, but rather by a local (I assume in Capac area) upholstery shop.
Tom




hey fellas? Morning?
whilest out questing. i re-read the post about the "plush" carpet and I am wondering if this is a LISTABLE Mera trait? i do not have the double carpet. mine looks very stock, and its seems to be just laid in. there is evidence of newer carpet, only cuz of the stereo/back up camera installs.
like the carpet was replaced "new" after these items were installed for convienence. do you all agree, that the double carpet is a Mera trait? At least.. for the 88's. who else has the double carpet? anyone with a '87 have the double up? can someone post pics. of their lower passenger compartments, drivers and pass. sides. so i may compare, to mine.
thanks in advance.
Dan
P.S. notice the better grammar/punctuation? i have been watching TV with the captions on. its seems to be helping? no??

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Think I noted plush carpet on the Mera brochure--don't know if it was year specific. The stuff is decent only when new and one would certainly be tempted to replace it if they weren't trying to remain "stock." Trouble is, it's on the door panels, too.

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Another subject: It appears Rodney's strut/brace kit obstructs air filter and battery removal. What is the process for removal/replacement--any special care that needs to be taken?

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Think I noted plush carpet on the Mera brochure--don't know if it was year specific. The stuff is decent only when new and one would certainly be tempted to replace it if they weren't trying to remain "stock." Trouble is, it's on the door panels, too.



i have a brochure

i do not like the fact that the copyright is 1987 and refers to both mirrors being powered. unless maybe a early MERA production nod.. could be.
you are right. plush carpet is offered as a Mera option....weird....so is the 3 speed Automatic Trans. this will help qualify my car as a special Mera...one day:P...cool
anyway, what is the leather interior offered with the plush carpet? that ruffley thing on the "glove box" and....?
as far as the list of Mera options, I have all of them but the powered drivers side mirror
and said Plush Carpet with leather interior...sooo close.. to spec.
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you know on second read.....DUH? (forgot how to read).
the Plush Carpet is a Fiero option not a Mera option. right?
that helps also...

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Dan, the plush carpet was an option, I believe installed by the same sub-contractor who re-did the interior with that tuck-and-roll style. Rodney says it was done by a local shop, to wit, my search to find upholstery shop(s) near Capac, MI that may have been in business back then.

Dick, here's a pic of my dual struts. It was already installed when I bought it. I doubt they are Rodney's original struts though. That blue label you can see on the left strut provides the number of the strut you can pic up at Checker's.



No problem working on the air filter side. I've removed the top and replaced the filter easily without removing the left strut.

On the battery side, however, I had to remove the strut on one end (I think it was on the hood side, so I could flip it over 180 and out of the way.) But regardless, with or without the strut, it is a little bit of a challenge to remove a battery from a Mera, due to the protruding hinge assembly and the Mera's body panel. I had to tilt it to get it out. Much easier if you stand inside of the trunk area so you're over the battery to maneuver it out. Luckily the battery I have has a small form factor, so it wasn't too bad to remove it. (I removed it to clean and repaint the bracket area.) LOL...its 10x easier to re-install the battery, letting the weight of the battery slide it back in.

Tom

Edit: If I recall, I think I also removed the one bolt holding the EGR bracket, so that could be pushed down a bit to maneuver the battery out.

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hey Tom, what's up?
the plush carpet is a Fiero option though. right? it is not just a Mera thing is it?
the way i read the brouchure it seems so..
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I had to remove the strut on one end


Do the ends just "pop" off--are they loaded?

Here's my set-up--as you can see the Rodney Mera kit has braces. It appears that the braces are mounted under the shock plate. I'll email Rodney, I'm sure he has an instruction sheet.







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Ahhh...I guess my are custom make, looking at the mount on the strut plate. I purchased those same reinforcing rods from Rodney, but never could figure out how to put them on mine, so I don't have them installed. Obviously you'll have to remove them to get the battery out, and probably to even work on the air filter. I think on mine, there is a small opening to slide a screwdriver in and pop the cover off, and they just pull out. In your last pic, you can see that slot on the left side of the strut end to stick a screwdriver in.

Edit: Wow, re-looking at yours, I have a completely different hinge set-up. I have protruding arms, and then what looks like a 1" square tube that goes across the lid and connects to each side
Dan: I've never seen a regular Fiero with that same interior set-up. I think it was unique to the Mera.

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I see that. Our cars are only two numbers apart, must have been an add on.

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someone has completely ferrarized my interior so i wont be of any help to you guys on the carpet thing. mike

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my rear deck has the 1" square tubing across it as well.

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Morning all,
the tube/brackets are a Mera thing, exclusive. that i know. but the carpet??
When i first got me car, it smelled like a swamp.
thought it was cuz it was in Florida? but could be some evidence of a flood or open windows for a duration.
thus the need to replace the carpet. the thing is that the floor seems to match the doors. humm....more investigation after work. thanks for the replies.
later-
Daniel
P.S. hey Tom are you talkin my interior or yours?? as far as not seen in a Fiero??

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got an 88 coupe over the wkend... driver... cool.... mike in oklahoma

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