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Military take over Oregon muheler fish and wildlife life building by dennis_6
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Calls for and celebrates? I'm not sure who you are referring to but I can see why that would upset anyone.

Action in the streets? I think it was reported as "dozens" in this case and in others I would suggest that it was because it hit a nerve with the populous.


You can try and frame it whatever way you want but unless you are suggesting that protests were kept at bay by someone or some entity in the Finicum case then I guess his death really didn't effect enough people to bother to protest. Sorry, I know sometimes it's hard to accept others don't share your views but it happens all the time whether you are right or wrong.


Montell Willams called for their deaths so did #Blm.
Members of this forum expressed their satisfaction with how the OSP handled the situation.
All cases of lethal force should be investigated and all LEOs should wear body cams.
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Article about road block being a ambush...
http://overpassesforamerica.com/?p=25125
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Montell Willams called for their deaths so did #Blm.


Really? So a "celebrity"...you have evidence of course? And a hashtag? Either way I don't agree with people applauding or calling for his death just as I don't when people do the same for other deaths.

 
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Members of this forum expressed their satisfaction with how the OSP handled the situation.
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Satisfaction? Or was it that their opinion that what happened was unfortunate but justified?


 
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All cases of lethal force should be investigated and all LEOs should wear body cams.


I would agree and I bet so would #BLM
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Niece?? Yeah.ok.
 
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Niece speaks out http://lakewoodsentinel.com...LaVoy-Finicum,210584


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I would agree and I bet so would #BLM


I posted the link to montell in this thread, you can go find it or do a Google search, either way, you will find some way to justify his statement.

Also during the live feed, of the last four hold outs the chat box was full of blow them away. I was not the only witness to that it is mentioned by other members in my other thread on the subject if memory serves correctly.

Don't forget the " toys" America mailed to the Bundy group.

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I posted the link to montell in this thread, you can go find it or do a Google search, either way, you will find some way to justify his statement.

Also during the live feed, of the last four hold outs the chat box was full of blow them away. I was not the only witness to that it is mentioned by other members in my other thread on the subject if memory serves correctly.

Don't forget the " toys" America mailed to the Bundy group.



Cool man, I'm not discounting what you believe or feel and can't say anything about watching someone die on video is appealing to me.

I just hope you see why others feel just as strongly when they relate personally to other incidents/issues.
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Legislators Blast DOJ Double Standard


Good Points......
 
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“Whether you agree or disagree with their tactics of occupying public land within an Oregon wildlife refuge for 41-days,” note the legislators, “Finicum and his associates were merely exercising their Constitutionally guaranteed 1st Amendment rights of free speech, to peaceably assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

The legislators’ letter continues, pointing out the obvious, politically motivated differences in the federal government’s actions toward the protesters:

In order to keep this in context, none of the thousands of individuals involved in the politically motivated 4-month takeover of the Wisconsin State Capitol from February 14 – June 16, 2011, or the encampment and protests by the Occupy Wall Street movement that started on September 17, 2011 and lasted for many, many months, were treated in a similar manner. In both of these cases, that lasted dramatically longer than the Oregon wildlife refuge occupation of public land, considerable property damage occurred, and yet no individuals were shot, jailed or charged in a similar manner to those individuals within Oregon.

It should also be noted that the Wisconsin State Capitol takeover and the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations involved violence, threats, and intimidation, massive disruptions of official government operations, as well as hindrance of private transportation, disruption of private business, and damage to and destruction of private property. Contrast that with the Oregon wildlife sanctuary occupation, which took place out in the boondocks, did not inconvenience anyone, or cause any property damage.

The letter from Representative Thorpe is cosigned by Senator Don Shooter and Representatives Brenda Barton, Sonny Borrelli, Regina Cobb, Mark Finchem, and Jay Lawrence. It continues:

Similar to the IRS targeting scandal, it has been suggested that the noticeable difference between the Wisconsin and Occupy Wall Street occupations and the Oregon occupation is that the former was typically comprised of labor union and liberal individuals who are politically aligned with President Obama, and the later was typically comprised of conservative individuals who are not.

According to Thomas Jefferson, our 3rd U.S. President and author of the Declaration of Independence, "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." Simply by exercising their Constitutionally guaranteed 1st Amendment rights, the late Finicum and his jailed and charged associates continue to face what some are calling government tyranny.

“It is the duty of the Attorneys General of the States of Arizona, Nevada and any other states with standing, to file civil rights complaints with the U.S. Justice Department against the Oregon law enforcement officials and prosecutors, and against the Federal Bureau of Investigation,” say the legislators. “Arizona and Nevada must ensure that their citizens are treated in a fair, transparent and legal manner, and that Oregon law enforcement officials justly face at a minimum manslaughter charges, and that FBI agents justly face at a minimum attempted manslaughter and falsifying evidence charges.”


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Legislators Blast DOJ Double Standard


Good Points......


What difference does it make?
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Not much ,
But thats no reason to ignore a trend,
like the gradual rising temperature of
the neck deep pot of water we are
standing in.


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There are 90 legislators in the AZ congress.... below was left out of the quoted text. Just putting this in context.

"Seven state legislators from Arizona have..."

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There are 90 legislators in the AZ congress.... below was left out of the quoted text. Just putting this in context.

"Seven state legislators from Arizona have..."



If this were a land of majority rule instead of rule of law, I would agree.

But the majority can be, and does, get wrong. Worse, many recognize it's wrong but go along just to keep tbe boatstable.

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If this were a land of majority rule instead of rule of law, I would agree.

But the majority can be, and does, get wrong. Worse, many recognize it's wrong but go along just to keep tbe boatstable.



Just stating the facts about the real support for this letter.

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Not much ,
But thats no reason to ignore a trend,
like the gradual rising temperature of
the neck deep pot of water we are
standing in.



Not ignoring anything, one man laid down his life and no one cares. The Oregon governor has blood on her hands, but nothing will be done.
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