He has the highest position in the court. You did know that, right?
LOL... and yet, he has one opinion (ruling). I am not sure where you are even going with this. Majority rules on SCOTUS... That is how it works... doesn't matter who disagrees, the results are the same.
"In the legal system of the United States, the Supreme Court is the final interpreter of federal constitutional law...."
"The Federal court system and the judicial authority to interpret the Constitution received little attention in the debates over the drafting and ratification of the Constitution. The power of judicial review, in fact, is nowhere mentioned in it. Over the ensuing years, the question of whether the power of judicial review was even intended by the drafters of the Constitution was quickly frustrated by the lack of evidence bearing on the question either way.[141] Nevertheless, the power of judiciary to overturn laws and executive actions it determines are unlawful or unconstitutional is a well-established precedent. Many of the Founding Fathers accepted the notion of judicial review; in Federalist No. 78, Alexander Hamilton wrote: "A Constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by the judges, as a fundamental law. It therefore belongs to them to ascertain its meaning, as well as the meaning of any particular act proceeding from the legislative body. If there should happen to be an irreconcilable variance between the two, that which has the superior obligation and validity ought, of course, to be preferred; or, in other words, the Constitution ought to be preferred to the statute."
The Supreme Court firmly established its power to declare laws unconstitutional in Marbury v. Madison (1803), consummating the American system of checks and balances. In explaining the power of judicial review, Chief Justice John Marshall stated that the authority to interpret the law was the particular province of the courts, part of the duty of the judicial department to say what the law is. His contention was not that the Court had privileged insight into constitutional requirements, but that it was the constitutional duty of the judiciary, as well as the other branches of government, to read and obey the dictates of the Constitution.[142]"
LOL... and yet, he has one opinion (ruling). I am not sure where you are even going with this. Majority rules on SCOTUS... That is how it works... doesn't matter who disagrees, the results are the same.
Yes, because all of them are going to admit they are not doing their legal duty, and instead pushing agenda.
The Air Force WAS a branch of the Army 50 years ago. Its now on its own. As it is right now, the Air Force is the ONLY one that is a true necessity. Navy, and some Marines are a close 2nd because they have their own aircraft. You will never win a war today without aircraft. The Navy is in the position to use ships to move their aircraft where needed. The Air Force can operate from any ally country, or even from our own shores. Allies won WWI and WWII with airpower. Germany nearly conquered all of Europe with airpower. When we took the skies from Germany and Japan, they were doomed. The Navy CAN get aircraft on station pretty quickly (advantage), but their disadvantage is an aggressor can sink their airfield and render ALL their aircraft useless. Not to diminish the Army and Marines, but no number of feet on the ground can beat whats in the air. They do great as a final clean up (for lack of a better word) where they can go from door to door. The more hand to hand troops you put out just makes easier targets for the aircraft.
Remind me again...which side is the terrorists....? Government tells me cell phone jammers are illegal in the US. But of course BLM is above the law. What the plan is Ill guess is do whatever it takes to get the rebels to fire the first shot, maybe to just shoot out a spotlight, then its open season. They probably also are armed to the teeth with fully automatic weapons, also illegal. Next week theyll be laughing around campfires relating their stories of the battle of Oregon. You can bet the LEOs are excited being able to have a live action training exercise.
The last hold-outs have vowed to leave dead or without charges. They better demand pardons because Cliven Bundy was just arrested for the standoff last year that involved all his neighbors on horseback. Just a matter of time until the people identified in those videos will be arrested also. What do we learn from this? Wear a mask while protesting.
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"The last four armed occupiers of a national wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon said they would turn themselves in Thursday morning after law officers surrounded them in a tense standoff.
The development came as Cliven Bundy — who led a Nevada standoff with federal officers in 2014 and who is also the father of the jailed leader of the Oregon standoff — was arrested in Portland."
In the news... Looks like Cliven will finally be charged for his actions, and Fry declared war against our our nation.... Hmm, yeah...
__________________________________ Surrounded by FBI agents in armored vehicles, the last four occupiers of a national wildlife refuge surrendered Thursday, and the leader of a 2014 standoff with federal authorities was criminally charged in federal court.
The holdouts were the last remnants of the group that seized the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge on Jan. 2 and demanded that the government turn over the land to locals and release two ranchers imprisoned for setting fires.
Meanwhile, Cliven Bundy, who was at the center of a 2014 standoff at his ranch in Nevada, was arrested late Wednesday in Portland after encouraging the Oregon occupiers not to give up. Bundy is the father of Ammon Bundy, the jailed leader of the most recent occupation.
On Thursday, the elder Bundy was charged in the 2014 standoff. Federal authorities may have feared Bundy's presence would draw sympathizers to defend the holdouts.
A criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Las Vegas charged the 69-year-old Bundy with conspiracy, assault on a federal officer, obstruction, weapons charges and other crimes. He's accused of leading supporters who pointed military-style weapons at federal agents trying to enforce a court order to round up Bundy cattle from federal rangeland.
It was not immediately clear if he had a lawyer to represent him ahead of a court appearance in federal court in Portland.
Federal authorities say the Bundy family has not made payments toward a $1.1 million grazing fee and penalty bill.
The holdouts and 12 others connected with the occupation have been charged with conspiracy to interfere with federal workers.
A live stream of a telephone call indicated that the last four occupiers had surrendered Thursday morning.
The occupiers were 27-year-old David Fry of Blanchester, Ohio; Jeff Banta, 46, of Elko, Nevada; and married couple Sean Anderson, 48, and Sandy Anderson, 47, of Riggins, Idaho.
In the live stream, Fry said the three others had surrendered but he refused to. He later said he was giving up. The FBI did not immediately confirm that the three surrendered.
The FBI began moving in on the holdouts Wednesday evening, surrounding their encampment with armored vehicles.Over the next several hours, the occupiers' panic and their negotiation with FBI agents could be heard live on the Internet, broadcast by a sympathizer of the occupiers who established phone contact with them.
Fry, an Ohio resident, said he was declaring war against the federal government.
"Liberty or death, I take that stance," he declared and later said he was pointing a gun at his head.
Fry could be heard yelling at an FBI negotiator: "You're going to hell. Kill me. Get it over with."
The occupiers calmed down after a while, and arrangements were made for them to surrender at an FBI checkpoint on Thursday.
I have never agreed with the occupiers, armed sit in on federal property. Though reflecting on this, I think it was a act of desperation. Two men were sent back to prison in a double jeopardy case. What other actions could they have done, that would have got anyone's attention?
I was deeply pained, when I heard the "militants" pleading for people to come to their aide. Militant was the wrong term, these were ordinary, terrified, people. They were in a tent, in the dark, in the frigid cold. They had the same kind of "troops" that "handled" waco and ruby ridge surrounding them, including light armor. They had spot lights in their face, so they couldn't see. They had the same demands over a bull horn, reports of music also. They had the FBI slowly advancing in, trying to break them. They plead for help, and rightly said America doesn't care, and once they go to jail they will be forgotten. They had racist remarks, and pleas for their death on the live stream chat.
They were at the breaking point, and favoring death on their feet, compared to be gunned down with their hands up. Which they truly believed was about to happen. It might have, had it not been for prayer, the live stream, and the assembly woman.
Right or wrong, they took a actual stand for what they believe in, and one day a line may be crossed for all of us where we have to make that stand. Unless, we are sniveling cowards, and will allow anything to keep our hide. Help won't come, and the masses will mock, and call for our blood.
Rip Finicum.
Edited to add, David Fry was a nut job.
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So, you support Black Lives Matter... interesting.
As for "what could that have done?".... lots, yet they didn't. They somehow believed that their MILITANT tactics were going to get them a pass from the government. They invaded US soil. They openly declared war on the federal government. Fry is a nut job, be he is THEIR nut job and represents them.
People around the world "take a stand", look at Rosie Parks, her action changed our country. She brought to light an injustice that made people think about our government and our own actions and beliefs.
Don't go saying "America doesn't care", as that is not true. America doesn't care about these nut jobs. They went about this in a completely wrong way and I won't support such things, as neither will the majority of Americans. There are ways to make changes within our country and this is the lowest form of "protest" and should not be celebrated or honored.
They were lucky someone FROM THE GOVERNMENT was able to help them and THE GOVERNMENT didn't blast in there and kill them all. If they were in Russia or other country, they would have been dead on the first day. They were lucky that THE GOVERNMENT worked with them and gave them opportunities that they would never have in another country.
I am glad it is over and as I expected, the government did an excellent job of removing this militant threat, so militants can have their day in court, where this should have been settled (and was settled).
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Originally posted by dennis_6:
I have never agreed with the occupiers, armed sit in on federal property. Though reflecting on this, I think it was a act of desperation. Two men were sent back to prison in a double jeopardy case. What other actions could they have done, that would have got anyone's attention?
I was deeply pained, when I heard the "militants" pleading for people to come to their aide. Militant was the wrong term, these were ordinary, terrified, people. They were in a tent, in the dark, in the frigid cold. They had the same kind of "troops" that "handled" waco and ruby ridge surrounding them, including light armor. They had spot lights in their face, so they couldn't see. They had the same demands over a bull horn, reports of music also. They had the FBI slowly advancing in, trying to break them. They plead for help, and rightly said America doesn't care, and once they go to jail they will be forgotten. They had racist remarks, and pleas for their death on the live stream chat.
They were at the breaking point, and favoring death on their feet, compared to be gunned down with their hands up. Which they truly believed was about to happen. It might have, had it not been for prayer, the live stream, and the assembly woman.
Right or wrong, they took a actual stand for what they believe in, and one day a line may be crossed for all of us where we have to make that stand. Unless, we are sniveling cowards, and will allow anything to keep our hide. Help won't come, and the masses will mock, and call for our blood.
BTW, what happened to the offer from FBI that anyone who left after the roadblock killing, was free to go without charges ? Looks like that was just some more BS. Just more of this administrations policy to promise anything but do whatever they want anyhow.
BTW, what happened to the offer from FBI that anyone who left after the roadblock killing, was free to go without charges ? Looks like that was just some more BS. Just more of this administrations policy to promise anything but do whatever they want anyhow.
