They need that guy from the TV series "Numbers". The math freak that teams up with his more conventional crime-fighting FBI agent brother. Or something like that. I didn't follow that series at all.
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Is anybody else looking on Tomnod.com? I just started about 30 minutes ago.
I tried it out a bit last night on a couple different maps. Really gives you an appreciation for the effort involved. I did come across an oddity, looked like maybe a whale or boat, about 60ft long. I marked it but didn't see anything after that.
Is anybody else looking on Tomnod.com? I just started about 30 minutes ago.
"Crowd searching" satellite images is good idea, but isn't all the images we citizens get old and in general low resolution ( and often with missing pieces )?
"Crowd searching" satellite images is good idea, but isn't all the images we citizens get old and in general low resolution ( and often with missing pieces )?
In general, yes. The images given at the site were from a couple days ago (the 9th or 11th I think), and decent resolution (I think the scale used was basically 1px = 2ft or something to that effect). There were some images with a lot of cloud cover, and some in grayscale. The site said the images were provided by DigitalGlobe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigitalGlobe
LOL, ya if the Chinese had a 1 1/2 mile long carrier. I think the biggest US carrier is just over 1,000 feet long. A 777 might touch down (assuming the wings would fit) but before they even pulled the throttles back, they would go over the bow of the ship. Even then, airliners landing gear are pretty fragile. Just yesterday one took off and blew out a front tire, they set it right back down and it was enough to collapse the nose gear completely, setting it down on its nose.
If most of what Ive been hearing is fact, my own theory is someone/ or pilots turned off the transponder and got the plane down on the deck to avoid any radar, and flew it somewhere on the asian mainland and landed it for whatever reason. Its in India, China, Thailand, etc to maybe used as a flying bomb by radicals. They seem pretty confident it turned west and north and flew on for 4 or more hours (2000 miles).
On the news tonight, they were saying that the plane jumped from 35000 feet to 45000 feet very quickly, then dropped very quickly to 25000(?) or so. Much lower than normal cruising altitude. I think it was about then that it changed directions. The speculation is that maybe one of the pilots (or somebody) was fighting the autopilot. (Apparently it can be over-ridden by brute force.)
I'm thinking maybe a struggle on the flight deck.
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On the news tonight, they were saying that the plane jumped from 35000 feet to 45000 feet very quickly, then dropped very quickly to 25000(?) or so. Much lower than normal cruising altitude. I think it was about then that it changed directions. The speculation is that maybe one of the pilots (or somebody) was fighting the autopilot. (Apparently it can be over-ridden by brute force.)
I'm thinking maybe a struggle on the flight deck.
If, they made a turn on autopilot (unlikely) I would think the throttles would have remain the same position, and therefore they would lose altitude making the turn, especially if it were a significantly banked turn. Auoto dis-engaged, the pilot would have increased thrust to make an abrupt turn, and would either maintain same altitude or could even gain altitude, but I wouldn't think they would gain anywhere close to 10K feet. If they depressurized, they certainly would have wanted to lose a LOT of altitude very quickly and same if they entered stall.
the only reson to go to 45,000 feet would be to knock out the passengers,or kill them the 777 has an automatic landing system,& is easier to land than most big planes 1 of the Pilots had some sort of advanced flight simulator in his house,this is now on the net Asian pilots have a different thought process,they might actually have open the door! no American pilot would open the door ,even if they were shooting the passengers the black box is actually a Fluorescence color the tail of most planes will float,made from composite material what date did Karl Marx die???
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Day after day what I first wrote has become reality bit by bit. I still hope my theory is wrong tho, Roger it seems you are in same ballpark with your thoughts as me. Then I read this article tonight and it fits yet another part of what I theorized. I hope they are still alive someplace, if they are there is that chance of a special forces intervention to save them. http://news.yahoo.com/malay...jacked-035744022.htm
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he official, who is involved in the investigation, told The Associated Press that no motive has been established, and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media.
The official said that hijacking was no longer a theory. "It is conclusive."
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Latest news says its a deliberate act by the Malasian government. Its been announced now that transmissions were being recieved by on board system monitoring was up to 6 - 7 hours after it was 'lost'. Thats enough flight time to be anywhere from Iran to Mongolia to Austrailia (5000 miles). I still say it was stolen and landed somewhere.
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Latest news says its a deliberate act by the Malasian government. Its been announced now that transmissions were being recieved by on board system monitoring was up to 6 - 7 hours after it was 'lost'. Thats enough flight time to be anywhere from Iran to Mongolia to Austrailia (5000 miles). I still say it was stolen and landed somewhere.
100% agree I just hope the rest of my theory does not come to fruition.
Oh yeah, this whole episode would really make the public eager to book a flight with Malaysian Airlines.
I think I'd rather stick with the alien abduction theory over that one.
What is that saying, any publicity is good publicity. Especially if it turns out to be some sort of epic story of how the crew saved the aircraft and passengers from hijackers or some crazy sh!t like that. Who knows just saying desperate times call for desperate measures. What do you think happened?
Originally posted by FIEROPHREK: What do you think happened?
co-pilot shot pilot, went to 45k to neutralize passengers. turned off transponders, zig-zagged away to an airfield so that someone can repaint the airplane and re-use it as a flying bomb. didn't know about engine telemetry. i'd like to have a look at co-pilot's home PC, i read somewhere he's got a flight-sim on it. i'd also like to see that last line on MJ's map extended
,at least as far as when the next engine status update would have happened.
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Originally posted by Nurb432: Not saying you are right or wrong in the theory ( as no one knows yet ) but how is that odd? He's a pilot... He likes flying..
i don't know if it's unusual or not (heck, i've got a flightsim on this PC), but if he rehearsed on his pc there might be useful information about where he's going(gone)
i don't know if it's unusual or not (heck, i've got a flightsim on this PC), but if he rehearsed on his pc there might be useful information about where he's going(gone)
Ok, that would make more sense. I thought you meant it was something odd for him to have a simulator in the first place...
i don't know if it's unusual or not (heck, i've got a flightsim on this PC), but if he rehearsed on his pc there might be useful information about where he's going(gone)
What if he had a flight simulator AND Grand Theft Auto 5 ...that would be all the proof I'd need...
imo, unless the goal was to protract the search, ditching or crashing in the middle of the indian ocean doesn't make sense either. whoever did this could just as easily have put down before changing course. somebody wanted that airplane.
imo, unless the goal was to protract the search, ditching or crashing in the middle of the indian ocean doesn't make sense either. whoever did this could just as easily have put down before changing course. somebody wanted that airplane.
Or it was just a tragic accident. We may never know.
The Malaysian govt has screwed this up, and is not (imo) very well equipped to handle an investigation or search of this magnitude. The search area now, exceeds an area X2 the size of the continental US. Their Prime Minister somehow reminds me somewhat of Baghdad Bob.
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The Malaysian govt has screwed this up, and is not (imo) very well equipped to handle an investigation or search of this magnitude.
Exact.
For as fast as our air traffic controllers reacted on 9-11, totally cold, no previous precedent, having other traffic controllers, FBI and air defenses alerted, the Malaysians look like they had no clue whatsoever (and probably didn't).
Granted, they're not telling us everything, but you would think that right after transponders went dark, every air traffic control, military radar and AWAC's plane in the area would have been up and on the case.
Let's hope that they find the black boxes before the pinging devices run out of battery power.
...that would be all the proof I'd need...
