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"2000 Mules" by williegoat
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no the articles are not about slaves
or counting people as 3/5 of a human

and contain the words Perpetual Union something the rebels of 1860 hated

I do note their CON-federation failed as did the original articles of CON-federation of 1777

the take away is both were too weak so they failed

or we tryed it failed why do you want to rerun a failed idea ?

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Originally posted by ray b:

no the articles are not about slaves
or counting people as 3/5 of a human

and contain the words Perpetual Union something the rebels of 1860 hated

I do note their CON-federation failed as did the original articles of CON-federation of 1777

the take away is both were too weak so they failed

or we tryed it failed why do you want to rerun a failed idea ?



I think you said that.

My side wants to return to the tenants of the Constitution, which has historically worked very well to keep this nation alive and kicking.
It's the other side that keeps tearing it down, refusing to follow the path the Founders set this country upon.

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

My side wants to return to the tenants of the Constitution, which has historically worked very well to keep this nation alive and kicking.
It's the other side that keeps tearing it down, refusing to follow the path the Founders set this country upon.



"There are none so blind as those who will not see."

As you said before, you're wasting your time.
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"There are none so blind as those who will not see."

As you said before, you're wasting your time.


Quoted for truth.

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Originally posted by williegoat:
I learned long ago, if someone has to tell you how smart he is, he ain't.


It's funny when the actual truth is true.
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Originally posted by williegoat:
Both threedog and sourboy also claimed to be unimpeachable history experts.

I learned long ago, if someone has to tell you how smart he is, he ain't.

There's a very important corollary to that: If a voice (a forum voice, in this context) is constantly hyperventilating about the foibles of someone else or some other group, to the exclusion of almost any other kind of remark, it's a sure sign that it's the voice of a "crackpot".

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

There's a very important corollary to that: If a voice (a forum voice, in this context) is constantly hyperventilating about the foibles of someone else or some other group, to the exclusion of almost any other kind of remark, it's a sure sign that it's the voice of a "crackpot".



If the shoe fits.......
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Another Arizona conviction: https://www.azag.gov/press-...llot-harvesting-case

She is probably actually a Republican from Alabama who just switched parties.

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Another Arizona conviction: https://www.azag.gov/press-...llot-harvesting-case

She is probably actually a Republican from Alabama who just switched parties.


opps

wrong election

no trump

''August 2020 Primary Election "ballot harvesting" scheme where early ballots from other voters were collected and deposited into a ballot box on primary Election Day.''

this is NOT the general ELECTION BUT WAS THE primary

AKA CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR
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opps

wrong election

no trump

''August 2020 Primary Election "ballot harvesting" scheme where early ballots from other voters were collected and deposited into a ballot box on primary Election Day.''

this is NOT the general ELECTION BUT WAS THE primary

AKA CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR

So, what you are saying is that when Democrats are convicted of election fraud, it doesn't count.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:


I think you said that.

My side wants to return to the tenants of the Constitution, which has historically worked very well to keep this nation alive and kicking.
It's the other side that keeps tearing it down, refusing to follow the path the Founders set this country upon.



YOUR SIDE IS ON RECORD SAYING

"I'm not in favor of abolishing the government. I just want to shrink it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."[

grover norquist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist

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Originally posted by williegoat:

So, what you are saying is that when Democrats are convicted of election fraud, it doesn't count.


no trump in that election

so no it does not count in the proof of the general election being a fraud in trump votes

and I see no mention of who the votes were for or party voted for or if any one was a party member of any party

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Originally posted by ray b:


YOUR SIDE IS ON RECORD SAYING

"I'm not in favor of abolishing the government. I just want to shrink it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."[

grover norquist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist



YOUR SIDE IS ON RECORD SAYING

"I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever."


George Wallace

https://www.brainyquote.com...eorge_wallace_112559

I think I have found your problem. You think there are only 2 sides.

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YOUR SIDE IS ON RECORD SAYING

"I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever."
~ George Wallace

I think I have found your problem. You think there are only 2 sides.

If that's true, "ray b" isn't unique in this regard. At the very least, he is one of two spectacularly conspicuous specimens of the "Just two sides" mentality that is evident in this forum's daily or near-daily offerings.

It's a low place for any human mind to arrive at.

Welcome to "Two Sides", Population... ?

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I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the democratic party

I was once long ago in the Gop
it washed off

I was in the Gop about 1960 to early 66
quit in disgust at the ''new'' members demo racists then joining in mass

then a yippy not a yuppy

mostly no party independent

so NO I was never in George's party you are wrong
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I was once long ago in the Gop





No you weren't.
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No you weren't.


I supported AUH2O In 64 I grew up and washed the Gop off later

and why do you say something so WRONG

and why do not the other members call you out for lying here
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YOUR SIDE IS ON RECORD SAYING

"I'm not in favor of abolishing the government. I just want to shrink it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."[

grover norquist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist



Fabulous quote.
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Originally posted by ray b:

I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the democratic party

I was once long ago in the Gop
it washed off

I was in the Gop about 1960 to early 66
quit in disgust at the ''new'' members demo racists then joining in mass

then a yippy not a yuppy

mostly no party independent

so NO I was never in George's party you are wrong


Same. Voted R' all my life until Trump the first time; voted independent. Couldn't stand him the second time so voted Biden.

This is what Trumpers fail to understand - Trump took moderates and a lot of "loose" republicans such as myself and drove them to the other party. Trump spent his presidency catering to them that he drove others away; he had a ~40% approval rating nearly his entire presidency. But it made them feel good.Then when he loses re-election, since they love him so much, they simply can't understand how he could lose so they invent these massive conspiracies.

Trump lost the popular vote to a very unpopular candidate in 2016. D's put a baked potato on the ticket in 2020 and it was enough to get rid of Trump. Trumps biggest enemy was himself - he couldn't keep his mouth shut. If he had, I honestly think he would have won re-election.

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I supported AUH2O In 64






HOW?


HOW exactly did you "support" him?

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why do you think you are so entitled to details you can QUIBBLE OVER ?

AKA WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE

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HOW?


HOW exactly did you "support" him?



WHILE WE ARE ASKING

how did you support BuSh2 in dollars and in hours
same for Mcsame and Rmoney
and the rump detail both 16 and post 16 lies about illegal votes
and the midterms
also 2020 pre electing and post election lies about the rump hours and money

be ezact and provide all data soonest
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Stop trying to evade the question and stop trying to deflect.


YOU made the claim, YOU back it up
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I supported AUH2O In 64






HOW?


HOW exactly did you "support" him?

..

Leftists gotta Leftist

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''The incumbent vs. system affect distinction is basic in the conceptualization of political support. It is based on the premise that system affect is a more important antecedent of aggressive political behavior than incumbent affect. The data reported here show that it is possible to distinguish incumbent from system affect empirically, and also theoretically important to make the incumbent-system distinction. Measures especially sensitive to incumbent affect correlate differently with ideology than does a measure especially sensitive to system affect. Byvariate correlations between measures of incumbent affect and a measure of aggressive political behavior are shown to be either spurious or indirect, due to the fact that incumbent affect is correlated with what appears to be a more powerful and direct antecedent of aggressive political behavior, namely, system affect. The theory behind the incumbent-system distinction is expressed in four propositions. In general, the data conform to it, but each prediction is qualified according to whether ideology and community context are inhibitory or facilitative.''

https://www.cambridge.org/c...0BD56BC7C8FEC8D7F134

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Originally posted by ray b:


https://www.cambridge.org/c...0BD56BC7C8FEC8D7F134



Stop trying to evade the question and stop trying to deflect.


YOU made the claim, YOU back it up
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I supported AUH2O In 64






HOW?


HOW exactly did you "support" him?

..

Leftists gotta Leftist

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Jan. 6 hearings... Bill Barr taking an "ugly stick" to the 2000 Mules documentary. Describes the movie as (in so many words) a "mockumentary."

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Byung J. “BJay” Pak, former U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Georgia

"Hello old friend"
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/126744.html

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"Come On-A My House" and watch these January 6 committee hearings! What's not to like?
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Come let me show how the best governor in the nation does it.
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de satan fights with mickey mouse

the guy is a scammer just like the rump

and a real DARK SIDER

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Another WAPO hit piece? Embarrassing is a good description of that rag.
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Another WAPO hit piece? Embarrassing is a good description of that rag.


why the war with the TRUTH from the rightwing?

there is NO vast media conspiracy

the evil is there your side just does not like it when it is found and reported

what is really funny is the other DC paper run by the loonie moonies
that paper is revered by the alt-facists nuts here
please quit attacking the media for reporting the BS that is the Gop
demand the truth from your side

demand facts not BS from the rightwing media
that would be a cool change
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Another WAPO hit piece? Embarrassing is a good description of that rag.


This 2000 mules movie itself is a hit piece and many users demanded people watch it before they comment. Against my better judgement, I did. It's bullshit and wasted time. So you demand other people waste an hour and a half on a movie but can't be bothered to spend 4 minutes reading an article. . . (for obvious reasons). This proves you're not arguing in good faith and rather live in a deniosphere bubble.

This article shows the level of bullshit. They (2000 mules) presented items as fact and when put under any scrutiny, it turns out to be false and the producer hides behind artistic liberties. It wasn't a documentary, it was **** for the ignorant.

Then you have people like AG Barr that laughed at the movie (essentially) saying it was worthless and even stated the -lie- that the election was stolen was bullshit and it was wrong to make public statements suggesting it was. . . Trump doing this ultimately contributing to his resignation.

Trump utterly failed in court over and over and over and . . .

Trump -lied- to his slurpers but they're too in love with him to see it. It's like the girl that constantly cheats on you and you keep telling everyone how much you love each other.

The fact that Trump perpetuated this lie and attempted to overthrow our voting system is exactly why he doesn't deserve to ever hold that office again. I don't care how expensive gas is, how bad my 401k is doing, etc. IMO, that's some Judas silver for betraying our country.
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I've figured it out.

Our resident Lefties will start arguing nonsense for several pages in an effort to bury whatever is being discussed that they don't like.

Then someone else in that group, and it could even be one posting reports someone in the thread, likely a lot. Cliff comes to look, see's that the thread is off the rails, and puts it in the trash where the lefties stand around and smell their farts or whatever those baby killing pedos do.

So... 2000 Mules.

Let's talk more about that movie that proves the Democrats are lying liars that lie about everything.

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I've figured it out. Our resident Lefties will start arguing nonsense for several pages in an effort to bury whatever is being discussed that they don't like.

Then someone else in that group, and it could even be one posting reports someone in the thread, likely a lot. Cliff comes to look, see's that the thread is off the rails, and puts it in the trash where the lefties stand around and smell their farts or whatever those baby killing pedos do.

So... 2000 Mules. Let's talk more about that movie that proves the Democrats are lying liars that lie about everything.

Is it "pedos" or "pedoes"..? If you have more than one potato, you have "potatoes". But if you have more than one burrito, you have "burritos".

Whobody knows?

Edited to add: If you go with the long form and articulate it as "pedophiles", then you're on solid ground.

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This 2000 mules movie itself is a hit piece and many users demanded people watch it before they comment. Against my better judgement, I did. It's bullshit and wasted time. So you demand other people waste an hour and a half on a movie but can't be bothered to spend 4 minutes reading an article. . . (for obvious reasons). This proves you're not arguing in good faith and rather live in a deniosphere bubble.

This article shows the level of bullshit. They (2000 mules) presented items as fact and when put under any scrutiny, it turns out to be false and the producer hides behind artistic liberties. It wasn't a documentary, it was **** for the ignorant.

Then you have people like AG Barr that laughed at the movie (essentially) saying it was worthless and even stated the -lie- that the election was stolen was bullshit and it was wrong to make public statements suggesting it was. . . Trump doing this ultimately contributing to his resignation.

Trump utterly failed in court over and over and over and . . .

Trump -lied- to his slurpers but they're too in love with him to see it. It's like the girl that constantly cheats on you and you keep telling everyone how much you love each other.

The fact that Trump perpetuated this lie and attempted to overthrow our voting system is exactly why he doesn't deserve to ever hold that office again. I don't care how expensive gas is, how bad my 401k is doing, etc. IMO, that's some Judas silver for betraying our country.


Why would you assume I didn't read the article? I did, and it's another trash hit piece from a trash newspaper that spends it's time trying to trash any voices opposed to it's own narrative. The article doesn't prove anything. It uses words like "it appears" as if this means anything. It appears WAPO is going to WAPO when WAPO can WAPO. This newspaper has lost ALL credibility with it's trash reporting day in and day out.

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well is claim to be able to tell who is up to what when and or why
just from the claimed cell phone data to track someone

and does that alarm or scare you

and when will the arrests start ?
or is barr correct in the film clip ?

or all made up ie it is a movie guys they say what they want ?
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"Evidence Gaps in ‘2000 Mules’"

Robert Farley for FactCheck.org; published June 10 and updated June 13, 2022.
https://www.factcheck.org/2...-gaps-in-2000-mules/


This is new (as of just 4 days ago) and a MUST READ for any self-respecting "2000 Mules" fan.

I'm not going to Read-o-Meter it, but anyone contemplating a careful read-through should set aside several minutes for this bountiful cornucopia of critical review.

FactCheck.org is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center.

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