I don't know if I'd call the video "funny", but I was a little surprised when I found out the guy encouraged the attack by spraying himself with female elk urine.
Surprise, Surprise, Surprise. He disserved what he got. Anyone who goes out in the woods with doe piss sprayed all over them disserves to have his ass kicked.
Steve
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Neils88 Member
Posts: 4059 From: Jeddore,Nova Scotia Registered: Aug 2013
However, now that you mention it, ironically there was a big crash in front of my house this morning...which is strange since I live in a quiet residential neighbourhood. Both cars had to be towed away. Odds of being in a crash are substantial compared to being shot at around here.
Damn...wasn't going to respond to this thread anymore...
Surprise, Surprise, Surprise. He disserved what he got. Anyone who goes out in the woods with doe piss sprayed all over them disserves to have his ass kicked.
Steve, you appear to be missing the point of that video... and why I posted it.
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yellowstone Member
Posts: 9299 From: Düsseldorf/Germany Registered: Jun 2003
From the looks of the picture of the round it was an old .303 bullet, when was the last time the British used the 303 in anything but guarding the queen mum?
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Posts: 19893 From: Clarendon Twp., MI Registered: May 2004
However, now that you mention it, ironically there was a big crash in front of my house this morning...which is strange since I live in a quiet residential neighbourhood. Both cars had to be towed away. Odds of being in a crash are substantial compared to being shot at around here.
Damn...wasn't going to respond to this thread anymore...
This. Surely you saw it. It's hard to have a conversation if one does not keep up. After references would have had me scurrying back to see what I missed.
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Originally posted by maryjane: Do you have an automobile wreck every day?
Many people do, many people die. Due to misuse of the automobile. Perhaps we should ban them too.
This. Surely you saw it. It's hard to have a conversation if one does not keep up. After references would have had me scurrying back to see what I missed. Many people do, many people die. Due to misuse of the automobile. Perhaps we should ban them too.
So the question was directed at both me a Yellowstone? Oh ok.
Let's see.....
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Originally posted by cliffw:Are we getting to the root of y'alls aversion to an armed populace ? Fear ?
I think I made it clear that I think the root of many things is fear, sometimes it's healthy sometimes not. Many people own firearms in Canada, I don't have any particular overriding aversion or unhealthy fear of it.
Yes, there is. There are several videos of members of Congress stating that. There are several "gun safety" groups who are dedicated to the task.
This has been covered before.
If you were to search for answers yourself, using the resources at your disposal, you wouldn't have to ask so many questions.
You seem to be an expert on the subject and seem to have plenty of time to comment so I'm sure you will be so kind to provide your sources of a credible movement to ban all guns in the U.S.
Edit: My search of a "plan to ban all firearms in the U.S." came up with no credible hits.
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Oh... is there a credible movement to ban all guns? Or is it as absurd as your statement?
Can you drive whatever vehicle you want on the roads or are there certain regulations?
No, you may not drive any vehicle you want on a public road, but you can buy and OWN any vehicle you want--or any you can afford anyway. I knew a guy that owned and drove a military surplus tank around his property and in town parades.
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No, you may not drive any vehicle you want on a public road, but you can buy and OWN any vehicle you want--or any you can afford anyway. I knew a guy that owned and drove a military surplus tank around his property and in town parades.
Sounds like reasonable regulations regarding vehicles.
Originally posted by newf: Sounds like reasonable regulations regarding vehicles.
Regulations regarding use, not purchase. You don't need a driver's license to buy a car. You don't need insurance, or anything else. There are legal requirements on how you use that vehicle on public roads.
So you'd be in favor of eliminating all restrictions on the purchase of weapons so long as there's reasonable regulations on their use?
Regulations regarding use, not purchase. You don't need a driver's license to buy a car. You don't need insurance, or anything else. There are legal requirements on how you use that vehicle on public roads.
So you'd be in favor of eliminating all restrictions on the purchase of weapons so long as there's reasonable regulations on their use?
OK so seeing as we are now using the analogy of a person driving a car to a person using a gun as a valid one then I would say I think there should be limitations/regulations on what type of vehicle one can drive on public lands and regulations on the drivers themselves as to if they are competent and capable of using certain vehicles. Same for guns.
Again I think some of the comparisons can be legitimate but of course we know that there is a major difference in what a gun and vehicle are designed to do.
...if they are competent and capable of using certain vehicles. Same for guns.
Does any of that checking currently happen?
But seeing that nearly all of the shooters that get publicised and used to push an agenda that makes guns sound scary were mentally unstable / disabled / manipulted by drugs. I would lean more twards looking at that that the tool / gun.
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Formula88 Member
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OK so seeing as we are now using the analogy of a person driving a car to a person using a gun as a valid one then I would say I think there should be limitations/regulations on what type of vehicle one can drive on public lands and regulations on the drivers themselves as to if they are competent and capable of using certain vehicles. Same for guns.
Again I think some of the comparisons can be legitimate but of course we know that there is a major difference in what a gun and vehicle are designed to do.
We have laws on the books regarding the responsible use of weapons and cars.
So let me ask you a very simple and straightforward question. Do you support removing all restrictions on the purchase of weapons in light of your support of regulating their use on public land?
Dianne Feinstein. This is only ONE example of a politician that does not know what she is talking about. I am not going to spend my morning looking up things that anyone is capable of.
We have laws on the books regarding the responsible use of weapons and cars.
So let me ask you a very simple and straightforward question. Do you support removing all restrictions on the purchase of weapons in light of your support of regulating their use on public land?
Straightforward indeed. It depends though, I would have to see the parameters of such a regulation in general though I think the ownership of certain weapons is unnecessary so should be highly regulated.
As I said cars and weapons are very different so I think the right for individuals to own or use should vary depending on factors like their mental capacity, age etc.
Dianne Feinstein. This is only ONE example of a politician that does not know what she is talking about. I am not going to spend my morning looking up things that anyone is capable of.
Again I have been asking to see someone prove that there's a credible movement to ban all firearms in the U.S.
This is not one.
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Tony Kania Member
Posts: 20794 From: The Inland Northwest Registered: Dec 2008
Originally posted by newf: Many people own firearms in Canada, I don't have any particular overriding aversion or unhealthy fear of it.
Do you have a particular overriding aversion or unhealthy fear of people carrying guns in public ? Is that why you think it should be banned (like in Canada) ? Bonus question. Why, if you fear that, should the cure for your fear be that no one should be allowed to carry guns in public ?
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Originally posted by newf: ... is there a credible movement to ban all guns?
Not just guns, clips/magazines too. It's a slippery slope we are on.
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Originally posted by newf: Can you drive whatever vehicle you want on the roads or are there certain regulations?
There are regulations, many of them dumb/revenue enhancing. The only one I agree with is the one prohibiting further use when guilty of misuse. That rarely happens though. The gooberment needs us to drive so we can pay tax revenue.
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cliffw Member
Posts: 37837 From: Bandera, Texas, USA Registered: Jun 2003
Originally posted by newf: Again I have been asking to see someone prove that there's a credible movement to ban all firearms in the U.S.
Ha ! Keep your head in the sand or look around at what's going on. Many representatives have stated that goal. They have been and are trying to take baby steps.
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Formula88 Member
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I think the ownership of certain weapons is unnecessary so should be highly regulated.
There's the heart of it. YOU want to regulate what YOU think is unnecessary. Gun grabbers are no different. Guns are fine as long as there are "reasonable" regulations, and only what you consider "reasonable" counts. I think we have far more then "reasonable" laws now, so to achieve a reasonable level of regulation, we need to abolish some laws.
If I call my ideas reasonable, then they must be reasonable for everyone and you must agree or therefore you're not being reasonable. That is how the argument has been framed and the entire premise is complete and utter bullsh*t.
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cliffw Member
Posts: 37837 From: Bandera, Texas, USA Registered: Jun 2003
Baby steps were taken in Canada and likely still will be.
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Criminal Code of Canada amendments between the 1890s and the 1970s introduced a series of minor controls on firearms. In the late 1970s, controls of intermediate strength were introduced. In the mid 1990s, significant increases in controls occurred.
You seem to be an expert on the subject and seem to have plenty of time to comment so I'm sure you will be so kind to provide your sources of a credible movement to ban all guns in the U.S.
Edit: My search of a "plan to ban all firearms in the U.S." came up with no credible hits.
Perhaps not an expert, but very knowledgeable. I have been interested in the topic for years, and I have taken the time to research and develop my own opinions.
If you are so interested, I am sure you will find the time to build your own knowledge base.
It is not my job to do that for you, especially since any source I would cite as credible, you would find some reason to argue with.
Did you ask "Why?" a lot when you were a child? Did your parents always answer your questions, or did they encourage you to research on your own?
There's the heart of it. YOU want to regulate what YOU think is unnecessary. Gun grabbers are no different. Guns are fine as long as there are "reasonable" regulations, and only what you consider "reasonable" counts. I think we have far more then "reasonable" laws now, so to achieve a reasonable level of regulation, we need to abolish some laws.
If I call my ideas reasonable, then they must be reasonable for everyone and you must agree or therefore you're not being reasonable. That is how the argument has been framed and the entire premise is complete and utter bullsh*t.
Funny I don't recall proposing anything, you asked a question about what I thought and I answered how I personally thought. Seems like you might have had your little diatribe about "Gun Grabbers" already written before I responded. Feel free to vent away though.
I never claimed my idea was reasonable or not, it's just an opinion. Such things are complex and not a black and white issue, I think any laws governing things like guns should reflect that as well.
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Perhaps not an expert, but very knowledgeable. I have been interested in the topic for years, and I have taken the time to research and develop my own opinions.
If you are so interested, I am sure you will find the time to build your own knowledge base.
It is not my job to do that for you, especially since any source I would cite as credible, you would find some reason to argue with.
Did you ask "Why?" a lot when you were a child? Did your parents always answer your questions, or did they encourage you to research on your own?
I told you, I've checked into it, there is no credible movement in the U.S. to ban all firearms that I know of. If someone can prove otherwise and how it has a chance in hell of passing into law I'd love to see it. I suspect it's more B.S. to encourage the fear and hate.