I don't expect this thread to go well, and I very much expect that it will end in the trash can. And I don't necessarily expect any replies, nor do I want them. I don't really care to read the opinions of most of you on the subjects I am posting about. Most of you, your opinions really hold no value over my life and my thoughts, so why should I care.

That said, this thread is more of a reflective look at everyday life through my eyes. Mainly regarding social norms that I believe to be useless anymore, among other things. I will warn you now, if you are sensitive to blasphemy, you will want to leave this thread and forget it exists. This thread also will serve as a social experiment of sorts. So I suggest you walk away now if you are faint of heart, spirit, weak of will, ad nauseum. I take no responsibility for your actions from here on out.

Edit: Note that I will continue posting in this thread as time warrants and as subjects come to mind. Some topics may be a rehash of already in print subjects as I see them through my eyes. This is a thread about me. Don't like it? Tough bollocks. I will continue posting either way, until either I cannot continue with topics, or the thread dies.

You have been warned.

Now, on to the blasphemy and the sensory assault!

People amuse me. Their actions when compared to body language usually don't correspond. I find it amusing to watch these people, to study them. To figure out what makes them tick. By analyzing these people, I have found that I am able to grow upon my ability to use lesser magic techniques to further my agenda, whatever that may be at the current moment in time. When these same people start talking about how much "God" loves me, or how I will live in an intangible paradise after I die, et al., I have to smile and chuckle to myself as I walk away, knowing what I know. Or when they talk about sinning against the "Almighty Lawd!" and going to Hell, then walk away and do exactly what it is that they were telling me was a sin, that I shouldn't do because I'll die and roast in a fiery pit...Quite contradictory to your beliefs there, eh Mr(s). Hypocrite? And you say I should bow down before this "Almighty Lawd!" of yours? GTFO of here with that BS. I bow before no man. And hey, at least its warm in this fiery pit of yours.

As Nietzche so quaintly put it, "God is dead". Why cling to outdated dogma and practices that NO LONGER WORK?


To be continued....

Part 2:

The question of good or evil, right or wrong, light and dark, et al.

To a Satanist, there is no such thing as any of these. To be more specific, a Satanist chooses what HE or SHE believes to be the definition of these things, and doesn't follow what society and/or another man/woman deems to be the "true" definition of these things.

So, in that respect, what I see as being a proper and morally correct view on things is surely to be considered improper or immoral to others. Case in point: I find that vengeance is a good thing. Revenge against those who have wronged me, in any way, shape, or form necessary serves a purpose. While I see this as something that is good, society has played revenge out to be immoral, barbaric, and heathen. Society says that I should turn the other cheek. I say FXCK THAT! Why should I continue to be nice to those who continually tread on me? Do they not deserve my retribution? My godly wrath? My answer in short? YES! In receiving my wrath, they will go their own way and will have learned something from the experience. They will possess the wisdom needed to keep them from doing it again. The old adage "fool me once, shame on you, Fool me twice, shame on me." comes into play here. If one tries a third time, there will be proverbial Hell to pay, so to speak. Problem is, people never seem to learn, and I find myself oft times not even bothering a second time with many people in this case. Reason being? I can utilize my energy for more (de?)constructive purposes.

It comes down to one thing, as I've said before numerous times in other posts: Good and evil, right and wrong, light or dark, etc., are subject to little more than semantics. It is up to the person to decide what is right for them, good for them, et al. One should not follow the herd mentality of present day society. One should make their own decisions. Do what is best for them.

Again, to be continued.

Part 3:

Why we call ourselves "Satanists" when there is no such thing as a devil or god in our opinion.

Simply put, Satan represents many things. Satan in a traditional sense represents carnal nature. Since we as Satanists believe in indulging in our carnal delights, the pleasures of the flesh so to speak, we embody that which is considered to be Satan. To us, Satan represents more than just carnal delights. Satan represents a driving force of nature that we can tap into to work our magic, be it "good" or "evil". Why not call it "Humanism" then if all we are doing is following the natural instincts of man? Simple. Satanism employs ritual and dogma, thus making it a religion. Humanism is not a religion. Man requires ritual and dogma in his religions. We use this ritual and dogma in working our magic. Magic meaning change in accordance with ones will.

To be continued...

Part 4

We are all no more than animals. Sometimes better, more often worse than those on all fours. Something I tend to agree with is the following statement, quoted from a song by one of the bands I listen to:

"The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty. if you wish to find that which becomes the dividing line between mankind and other biological classifications, it rests not in brain size, dominance, or even emotional capability, but lies in the unique capacity for human beings to reflect on their actions and show regret, what is most certainly the ability to empathize, that gives them their position. all animals understand love and affection, but only man shows the propensity to place himself into the shoes of another lifeform. losing this capability, among individuals of this species, reduces them below their much heralded position, and readies the climate for the likely fall of man, the fall from grace"

As to why I agree with the statement, see part 1 of this post. Watching people from the outside in has led me to draw conclusions similar to the above statement.

To be continued...


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"The Devil and his angels work together like a military system. I dealt with one of his generals.

The only humans he has interest in are the ones getting close to God. The rest of the world is ****ed and he knows he already owns their asses.

If you want an encounter with the supernatural realm, try to know God. You'll get Satan's attention. Trust me."
-Unknown

"I AM A SATANIST! BOW DOWN, FOR I AM THE HIGHEST
EMBODIMENT OF HUMAN LIFE!"

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quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: I don't expect this thread to go well, and I very much expect that it will end in the trash can. And I don't necessarily expect any replies, nor do I want them. I don't really care to read the opinions of most of you on the subjects I am posting about. Most of you, your opinions really hold no value over my life and my thoughts, so why should I care.

If you don't care what people think on this forum and you don't want any replies, then why post this here at all?

There is a place on the web for what you want to do. It is called a blog.

quote Originally posted by Doug85GT: If you don't care what people think on this forum and you don't want any replies, then why post this here at all? There is a place on the web for what you want to do. It is called a blog.

Reference paragraph 2 for your answer.

Attention...just for you! Now be a good boy and run along...

quote Originally posted by TommyRocker: Attention...just for you! Now be a good boy and run along...

Apparently you miss the point of the thread. I don't require nor do I request your attention, or anyone else for that matter.

why do they call this stuff "satanist", when in reality - it has NOTHING to do with satan, and is actually just worshipping the self/id/ego?
"witchcraft" is more "satanist" - and, not to be mistaken for wicca, who want to be "good witches"....ug

quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: why do they call this stuff "satanist", when in reality - it has NOTHING to do with satan, and is actually just worshipping the self/id/ego? "witchcraft" is more "satanist" - and, not to be mistaken for wicca, who want to be "good witches"....ug

Lol. Very good question. And I will be covering that in the near future.

quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: People amuse me. Their actions when compared to body language usually don't correspond. I find it amusing to watch these people, to study them. To figure out what makes them tick. By analyzing these people, I have found that I am able to grow upon my ability to use lesser magic techniques to further my agenda, whatever that may be at the current moment in time. When these same people start talking about how much "God" loves me, or how I will live in an intangible paradise after I die, et al., I have to smile and chuckle to myself as I walk away, knowing what I know.

I'm going to decipher for you what you're really saying here. In your opinion, what you really are saying is:


YOU: People amuse you because you are SO above the petty "struggle" of the insignificant rat race. All these people, doing all these things, for what, what's the point? Their life is meaningless and they are consumed by old ideologies and ridiculousness that won't even matter when they're gone.


REALITY: You really not above it... the sad fact is that you didn't get along very well with people when you were younger. You failed miserably in social situations and were made fun of because of it. You are therefore bitter, and in some respects don't understand why you're unable to function with social interaction in the same capacity as many other people do. You've tried to convince yourself that it's not you, and that really, it's just everyone else. But it is you... there's a lot of pain inside, there's no point in trying to hide it. What you call an "experiement" on Pennock's Fiero Forum, is really a cry for help. You're hoping that by posting this, people will complain and tell you that you need to find God, yadda yadda, and you're hoping that it will "re-fill" your many pre-conceived (or ill-conceived) notions about what your problems are. Hopefully at that point, you figure that you'll re-affirm to yourself that again, it's not you, it's really everyone else that's the problem... but... if you really believed that, you wouldn't have posted this... would you?


If you're ever in South Florida, I'll buy you a beer... maybe even a steak as White88 puts it... we won't talk about God... we'll go to a car show and have a good time.

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2008 Jeep Patriot Limited 4x2
2002 Ford Explorer Sport 2dr 4x2
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

quote Originally posted by Doug85GT: If you don't care what people think on this forum and you don't want any replies, then why post this here at all? There is a place on the web for what you want to do. It is called a blog.

Social experimentation.

This will be quite fun

quote Originally posted by skuzzbomer: This will be quite fun

But not as much fun as Mustangs and Solstices. And Beer, beer would be a lot more fun.

Who pissed in your cheerios today?
Just kidding I have and I think most anyone who looks at your avatar already knows you are heathen as some would call you. Me I never give a Sh!t one way or the other.

You can believe in whatever you want, just don’t try and change me.

So what brought this on? Is it that Christmas is coming or something else? Not that it makes much difference to me. Most times you post you speak your mind and don’t offend anyone. I’m going in for my nap soon but hey I’m always here to talk to for anyone who needs an ear.

Life sucks and then you die. But somewhere in between you find someone to enjoy the little things with. Stop and smell the flowers, or whatever turns you on. There is always someone for everyone, you just have to keep looking.

Smile for no good reason what so ever. It makes people wonder.

Steve

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Technology is great when it works,
and one big pain in the ass when it doesn't.
Detroit iron rules all the rest are just toys.

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I don't expect this thread to go well, and I very much expect that it will end in the trash can. And I don't necessarily expect any replies, nor do I want them. I don't really care to read the opinions of most of you on the subjects I am posting about. Most of you, your opinions really hold no value over my life and my thoughts, so why should I care."


Screw you, too.

quote Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: " I don't expect this thread to go well, and I very much expect that it will end in the trash can. And I don't necessarily expect any replies, nor do I want them. I don't really care to read the opinions of most of you on the subjects I am posting about. Most of you, your opinions really hold no value over my life and my thoughts, so why should I care." Screw you, too.

Listen to your dad.

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quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: I don't really care to read the opinions of most of you on the subjects I am posting about. Most of you, your opinions really hold no value over my life and my thoughts, so why should I care.

When I get fed up with enough people on this forum, or they get fed up enough with me , I just quietly disappear from here for a few months. I don't make a big deal of it.

I don't entirely understand threads such as this one, and of course the "good-bye" threads. Me thinks these are just cries for attention. Not that this is necessarily a bad thing, but let's at least be honest about it.

quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: Lol. Very good question. And I will be covering that in the near future.

Please elaborate SOON, I wonder how someone doesn't believe God exists, yet believe in the Devil (Not YOU, X_B, just people I have come across during my travels...)

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quote Originally posted by FieroRumor: Please elaborate SOON, I wonder how someone doesn't believe God exists, yet believe in the Devil (Not YOU, X_B, just people I have come across during my travels...)

yes - always a funny thing. to actually worship satan, you must acknowledge god. tho - being noone has actually met either - we can only judge by opinions. for all we know, god actually feeds on human souls, and satan is actually trying to save us. his first attempt with Eve was quickly thwarted, and the herd was mindlessly set on its way.

quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: yes - always a funny thing. to actually worship satan, you must acknowledge god. tho - being noone has actually met either - we can only judge by opinions. for all we know, god actually feeds on human souls, and satan is actually trying to save us. his first attempt with Eve was quickly thwarted, and the herd was mindlessly set on its way.

You should write movie scripts, seriously...

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Todd,
2008 Jeep Patriot Limited 4x2
2002 Ford Explorer Sport 2dr 4x2
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: You should write movie scripts, seriously...

you should hear me sing. it is wonderous.

Let me go on record here and just state that at the time I put the goodbye threads up, I was going through a rough period, and fell away from my roots so to speak. I had lost myself and forgotten who I was, what I believed in, and what I stood for.

That stated, I do apologize to those of you whom had to suffer through reading them. And with that I will simply state that it will not happen again. For any of those who have done any of the research into my belief system, you will understand that I will not apologize unless sincere.

As for some of the other comments posted thus far to this thread, I will attempt to address them individually.

Steve, LOL. No piss in these Cheerios, ran out yesterday morning Although I do thank you for the laugh and the compliment (I revel in the fact that I'm a heathen bastard ) Enjoy the nap old man, lord knows you old farts need em My regards to Melanie as well, hopefully she hasn't been ready to kill ya yet As for why the thread came about, its something I have been considering posting for awhile now. But I decided to hold off until the time was right and I had all my ducks in a row so to speak.

Todd, while I respect your opinion on most things, I disagree with your observations on why I posted this thread, as well as your observations on my social skills. I can socialize with the majority almost as well as the rest of the masses. As for what you have said about my "experiment" being a cry for help, you are far off base with that thought. While I can see your reasoning behind thinking that way (refer to first paragraph of this post), I must disagree. Yes, I know I have problems. And I am working to address these issues.

If I ever do get to Florida though, I would very much enjoy a beer and a car show. First round on me, and you can hold me to it.

Whitedevil: Maybe later, I have a headache

Pyrithian and Rumor, Ask and ye shall receive Next subject in the thread will be on why we are called Satanists, which very well should answer your questions. Although normally I would suggest that you put in the effort to find the answers on your own, I'm sure I can make an exception this time (since it is fitting to the thread).

Anyhow, enough of this banter. Time for me to go to work. I will post again as conditions allow.

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quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: you should hear me sing. it is wonderous.

If your singing involves soul harvesting, then I think I'll get my video camera. It could be the next double-rainbow...

quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: Let me go on record here and just state that at the time I put the goodbye threads up, I was going through a rough period, and fell away from my roots so to speak. I had lost myself and forgotten who I was, what I believed in, and what I stood for. That stated, I do apologize to those of you whom had to suffer through reading them. And with that I will simply state that it will not happen again. For any of those who have done any of the research into my belief system, you will understand that I will not apologize unless sincere. As for some of the other comments posted thus far to this thread, I will attempt to address them individually. Steve, LOL. No piss in these Cheerios, ran out yesterday morning Although I do thank you for the laugh and the compliment (I revel in the fact that I'm a heathen bastard ) Enjoy the nap old man, lord knows you old farts need em My regards to Melanie as well, hopefully she hasn't been ready to kill ya yet As for why the thread came about, its something I have been considering posting for awhile now. But I decided to hold off until the time was right and I had all my ducks in a row so to speak. Todd, while I respect your opinion on most things, I disagree with your observations on why I posted this thread, as well as your observations on my social skills. I can socialize with the majority almost as well as the rest of the masses. As for what you have said about my "experiment" being a cry for help, you are far off base with that thought. While I can see your reasoning behind thinking that way (refer to first paragraph of this post), I must disagree. Yes, I know I have problems. And I am working to address these issues. If I ever do get to Florida though, I would very much enjoy a beer and a car show. First round on me, and you can hold me to it. Whitedevil: Maybe later, I have a headache Pyrithian and Rumor, Ask and ye shall receive Next subject in the thread will be on why we are called Satanists, which very well should answer your questions. Although normally I would suggest that you put in the effort to find the answers on your own, I'm sure I can make an exception this time (since it is fitting to the thread). Anyhow, enough of this banter. Time for me to go to work. I will post again as conditions allow.

I've got to be honest... I'm not feeling the love. Steve's post got like more than 5 smiley faces, and my paragraph is devoid of any emoticons... not even angry ones. I'm of the impression you think I'm just not worth the effort, apparently Steve is.

EDIT: Now that I see it again, EVERYONE got an emoticon except for me.


I'll totally take you to a car show and a beer, but no Goth clothes... I have appearances I have to keep up in my neighborhood.


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2008 Jeep Patriot Limited 4x2
2002 Ford Explorer Sport 2dr 4x2
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

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quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: Reference paragraph 2 for your answer.

But it doesn't really answer the question of why.. its just a statement 'here it comes'

Not that i care either way, as i think everyone should be allowed to say whatever they want, but its sort of odd way to start a public post where you know you will get reply's.

Lol Todd, no worries on the Goth clothes That was 10 years ago, and lost all it's shock value while I was in high school. And its not very comfortable

Btw, enough smiley faces now?

Nurb, I would suggest reading the second paragraph of the first post again. The answer is there. And with your post you essentially answered the question you asked as well

quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: ...As for why the thread came about, its something I have been considering posting for awhile now. But I decided to hold off until the time was right and I had all my ducks in a row so to speak.

And a Merry Christmas to you, too.

Whatever makes you happy. More power to you. We live in the land of the free afterall and it's your right, even if it isn't the same thing I believe in.

How about when you get yourself to Omaha this week you give us a Satanic Perspective of it

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quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: People amuse me. Their actions when compared to body language usually don't correspond. I find it amusing to watch these people, to study them. To figure out what makes them tick. By analyzing these people, I have found that I am able to grow upon my ability to use lesser magic techniques to further my agenda, whatever that may be at the current moment in time.

I see we have some things in common.
What I don't understand is why you choose to serve the one that will serve me. Well anyway Merry Chrismas and Happy New Year. As long as you are alive you still have the chance....

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quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: I don't expect this thread to go well, and I very much expect that it will end in the trash can. And I don't necessarily expect any replies, nor do I want them. I don't really care to read the opinions of most of you on the subjects I am posting about. Most of you, your opinions really hold no value over my life and my thoughts, so why should I care. That said, this thread is more of a reflective look at everyday life through my eyes. Mainly regarding social norms that I believe to be useless anymore, among other things. I will warn you now, if you are sensitive to blasphemy, you will want to leave this thread and forget it exists. This thread also will serve as a social experiment of sorts. So I suggest you walk away now if you are faint of heart, spirit, weak of will, ad nauseum. I take no responsibility for your actions from here on out. Edit: Note that I will continue posting in this thread as time warrants and as subjects come to mind. Some topics may be a rehash of already in print subjects as I see them through my eyes. This is a thread about me. Don't like it? Tough bollocks. I will continue posting either way, until either I cannot continue with topics, or the thread dies. You have been warned. Now, on to the blasphemy and the sensory assault! People amuse me. Their actions when compared to body language usually don't correspond. I find it amusing to watch these people, to study them. To figure out what makes them tick. By analyzing these people, I have found that I am able to grow upon my ability to use lesser magic techniques to further my agenda, whatever that may be at the current moment in time. When these same people start talking about how much "God" loves me, or how I will live in an intangible paradise after I die, et al., I have to smile and chuckle to myself as I walk away, knowing what I know. Or when they talk about sinning against the "Almighty Lawd!" and going to Hell, then walk away and do exactly what it is that they were telling me was a sin, that I shouldn't do because I'll die and roast in a fiery pit...Quite contradictory to your beliefs there, eh Mr(s). Hypocrite? And you say I should bow down before this "Almighty Lawd!" of yours? GTFO of here with that BS. I bow before no man. And hey, at least its warm in this fiery pit of yours. As Nietzche so quaintly put it, "God is dead". Why cling to outdated dogma and practices that NO LONGER WORK? To be continued....

Blessed be . Why do you not try walking on the white side of the light? The dark side is dangerous!!!!!!!!!!
You speak of lesser magic? In the real world it is called reverse psychology. Call Sterve(84fiero123) I would be glad to speak with you. No judjement here.

quote Originally posted by fierowitch: Blessed be . Why do you not try walking on the white side of the light? The dark side is dangerous!!!!!!!!!! You speak of lesser magic? In the real world it is called reverse psychology. Call Sterve(84fiero123) I would be glad to speak with you. No judjement here.

While i cant speak for others, some of us believe all light is gray. There is no light or dark.

quote Originally posted by User00013170: While i cant speak for others, some of us believe all light is gray. There is no light or dark.

Very true, but Blackthorn keep talking about the dark side and Satin. He spells GOD ,GAWD go firure.

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I knew there was a reason you liked my funerary plans so much. Sorry I can't join you in celebrating Satan, though.. she's caused me too much trouble already.

"I had to be up at that there crossroads last midnight, to sell my soul to the devil."
"Well, ain't it a small world, spiritually speaking. Pete and Delmar just been baptized and saved. I guess I'm the only one that remains unaffiliated. "
- from 'Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?'

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I'm very interested!

quote Originally posted by fierowitch: Very true, but Blackthorn keep talking about the dark side and Satin. He spells GOD ,GAWD go firure.

well i spell it god. ( lowercase )

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I've got to be honest... I'm not feeling the love. Steve's post got like more than 5 smiley faces, and my paragraph is devoid of any emoticons... not even angry ones. I'm of the impression you think I'm just not worth the effort, apparently Steve is. EDIT: Now that I see it again, EVERYONE got an emoticon except for me.

What are you bitching about? I didn't even rate getting my name mentioned.

My feelings are hurt. Maybe I should start a thread about this.

quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: Let me go on record here and just state that at the time I put the goodbye threads up, I was going through a rough period, and fell away from my roots so to speak. I had lost myself and forgotten who I was, what I believed in, and what I stood for.

Glad to see you're out of the Emo phase.

quote Originally posted by User00013170: While i cant speak for others, some of us believe all light is gray. There is no light or dark.

Is darkness just the absense of light?

quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne:

You were listening to Marilyn Manson when you posted, weren't you?

quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: Is darkness just the absense of light?

Depends on if one is a light emitter, or a dark sucker.

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