quote Originally posted by engine man: car looks great can you tell me what it takes to go to e-85 othere than change the rubber hoses

you are going to need about 10-15% more fuel at idle and cruise, and about 40% more fuel at WOT, with a nice ramp in between. I am now running an external fuel pump as I sumped my fuel tank. I have a fuelab 41401 pump with 1/2" aluminum lines. I also have -8 an on everything and 120#/hr fuel injectors. A walbro 255 will work for up to about 320 wheel hp. The debate is out on whether ethanol affects rubber lines. Some people run it and don't have problems, some advocate that it will deteriorate it over time. Best bet is to make stainless or aluminum lines.

quote Originally posted by fieroX: Next project is a turbocharged pontiac 400 in my 1973 firebird formula.

Cool!

If possible could you keep me updated when you do this?

BTW~ The Fiero looks great and sounds like it will get what you estimate.

quote Originally posted by fieroX: This car will go 9's this saturday

I'm cheering for you to go 9s, but I still don't think you're quite there. Cars running 9s are hauling ass. Your last trap was 126mph. You need to gain about 20mph from that trap to go 9s. You also need to cut almost a full second off your best ET. Unless you're going to cut like a 1.2 60', I think its going to be hard to reach. You already know the faster you go the harder it is to go faster, yet you almost sound like this is going to be easy. Hopefully you can prove me wrong this weekend, otherwise, we'll get a good laugh out of your excuses...

quote Originally posted by Jncomutt: I'm cheering for you to go 9s, but I still don't think you're quite there. Cars running 9s are hauling ass. Your last trap was 126mph. You need to gain about 20mph from that trap to go 9s. You also need to cut almost a full second off your best ET. Unless you're going to cut like a 1.2 60', I think its going to be hard to reach. You already know the faster you go the harder it is to go faster, yet you almost sound like this is going to be easy. Hopefully you can prove me wrong this weekend, otherwise, we'll get a good laugh out of your excuses...

Well I think its going to be a tough task, but its very possible for us to go 9's. First off when I ran 126 mph I was in a 30 mph headwind. Then i went 128.5 but at a slower et because it had a weird 1-2 shift.

Anyway, we have gone back to 2.93 gears because I was running out of room in 3rd with 3.29's. Now I am good to 150 mph in 3rd. We have 105 more whp now, with a turbo that spools faster. I guess we will see. But my official guess is 9.98@139 mph 1.52 60foot.

car look great....can you give a quick description of how you attached the lower door section of the stage 2 scoop kit to the door...i.e. what products where used and the method in which you attached them...thanks

heres a few requested pictures of the headlights.







Ive still got some wiring to do, these are just temped in. Im putting HID's in there, but I havent decided which ones I want yet.


The lower door sections were glued on with a product from Norton called SpeedGrip panel bonding adhesive. Part number 06115. Uses a special applicator gun thats like $40, but it works. You will find a lot of uses for this adhesive. You can literally glue a wet fish to a piece of drywall and it will stick. Its incredible. You could glue your entire car together and not use 1 bolt and it would never fall apart. anyway, hope this helps.

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Just got to thinking...... wonder what the headlights would look like in the bumper...hmmmmmm.......looks good though. You must know some talented fender guys.

quote Originally posted by sedgwickbodyshop: Just got to thinking...... wonder what the headlights would look like in the bumper...hmmmmmm.......looks good though. You must know some talented fender guys.

BTW my car was painted by Sedgwick Body Shop in Sedgwick ks. AKA this guy. hahaha. Get back to work.

quote Originally posted by fieroX: Well I think its going to be a tough task, but its very possible for us to go 9's. First off when I ran 126 mph I was in a 30 mph headwind. Then i went 128.5 but at a slower et because it had a weird 1-2 shift. Anyway, we have gone back to 2.93 gears because I was running out of room in 3rd with 3.29's. Now I am good to 150 mph in 3rd. We have 105 more whp now, with a turbo that spools faster. I guess we will see. But my official guess is 9.98@139 mph 1.52 60foot.

Well I think its going to be a tough task, but its very possible for me to go 10's. First off when I ran 126 mph I was on all-season tires and 93 pump gas, like always, and will be.

Now I am good to 150 mph in 5th. I have 85 more whp now, with a turbo that makes cool whistling noise. I guess we will see. But my official guess is I run 10.98@131 mph 1.92 60foot.

quote Originally posted by Jncomutt: Well I think its going to be a tough task, but its very possible for me to go 10's. First off when I ran 126 mph I was on all-season tires and 93 pump gas, like always, and will be. Now I am good to 150 mph in 5th. I have 85 more whp now, with a turbo that makes cool whistling noise. I guess we will see. But my official guess is I run 10.98@131 mph 1.92 60foot.

awesome man, how are you getting the manual to hold that amount of power? I know what power it takes to go 126 and I never thought a manual would get there. Im ready for some competition, make it happen!

Time slips talk.

quote Originally posted by fieroX: awesome man, how are you getting the manual to hold that amount of power? I know what power it takes to go 126 and I never thought a manual would get there. Im ready for some competition, make it happen!

YEAH! That's what I want to know. How are you getting a manual to hold that kind of power? I'm hoping for 350whp and I'm worried?!

The car looks great X, for a notchie...
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Those 1 inch chains are really nice, but the pocket book hurts. I have 2 of them. $800 a piece.

Nice looking ride Ryan. Bring that thing to Ennis before season end.

http://www.fastfieros.com still only on superchargers, no turbos : (

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quote Originally posted by fieroX: Im ready for some competition, make it happen!

My 5-speed car isn't your competition...

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quote Originally posted by Jncomutt: My 5-speed car isn't your competition... Hopefully you'll be mine with my other setup...

Is that a 1" chain I spy?

quote Originally posted by Jncomutt: My 5-speed car isn't your competition... Hopefully you'll be mine with my other setup...

Yeah, but 285#'s is a lot to tow down a strip, you're talking more than the 25% power lost of a 65HD.

And once again, time slips talk, not pictures.

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the loss switching to the HD over the 5 speed will be overcome by the ability to launch and not shift 4 times.

3 times.

Don't forget the weight.

quote Originally posted by FastFieros: Those 1 inch chains are really nice, but the pocket book hurts. I have 2 of them. $800 a piece. Nice looking ride Ryan. Bring that thing to Ennis before season end. http://www.fastfieros.com still only on superchargers, no turbos : (

Thanks Loyde. Wont be coming to Ennis soon, but I will be taking it to Buick Vs Ford at Noble in 8 days. Should be interesting.
Good to see you back on here man, hopefully everything is coming back together for you.

Ryan,it looks like you might need snow tire this weekend the way it looks.Good luck on your run and keep everything together.I'm looking at going next weekend if my wheels get back.Get-r done.

Don

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FYI, a car with 100whp more than you, and about 80lbs heavier, ran a 1.62 60 and ran 10.0 at 138.

Willing to bet that it had a better tune for the backhalf as well.

my official guess, if you get the traction you claim, is 10.4@133

X if you break into the 9's at the Noble track then you get extra credit. Everyone here swears that track is consistently slow so they take their cars to Tulsa. When you get down here the guys at the track will tell you the difference. I can't remember what the spread was between the two tracks but I think they say around 2 tenths. I'm not sure why.
I know by 10pm the slobs have overfilled the bleach water troughs and it's wet all the way up to line... Should be fun though. I'm gonna try and get out there to see you run.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: FYI, a car with 100whp more than you, and about 80lbs heavier, ran a 1.62 60 and ran 10.0 at 138. Willing to bet that it had a better tune for the backhalf as well. my official guess, if you get the traction you claim, is 10.4@133

What brand of Dyno first off? Secondly 105 whp is only going to knock off .4? Guess we'll see tomorrow.

quote Originally posted by fieroX: Guess we'll see tomorrow.

Good luck man! I hope you reach your goals. I'm probably heading out to the strip tomorrow as well. I'm just hoping for a new PB.

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quote Originally posted by fieroX: What brand of Dyno first off? Secondly 105 whp is only going to knock off .4? Guess we'll see tomorrow.

if the weather there is anything like here your not doing much. lol

looks like you might be able to? interested to see what it does...

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looks awesome, this thread makes me want to drop in an auto.

good luck today

10.30 132 mph 1.45 60'. Intercooler pump stopped working. Charged air was 200•. Lost mph bad car kind of fell off in 3rd gear. Reviewing the scans now. High performance Pontiac photographer was there. He did a photoshoot. Were getting in the mag!

Good work! I know you didn't reach your goal, but that's still an awesome time. I'll be looking forward to seeing the car in HPP.

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200 degree intake temps are scary how did the e85 hold up Id think it would knock with that much intake temp so im curious.

Pretty damn fast.

quote Originally posted by fieroX: 10.30 132 mph 1.45 60'. Intercooler pump stopped working. Charged air was 200•. Lost mph bad car kind of fell off in 3rd gear. Reviewing the scans now. High performance Pontiac photographer was there. He did a photoshoot. Were getting in the mag!

That's an absolutely bad ass time for 200* intake temps. Can't wait for a good run.

One more quick question what kinda rubber are you using to launch thatr thing FieroX?

I have the video....will be posting it up soon when I get back into town.

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quote Originally posted by FieroFiend: 200 degree intake temps are scary how did the e85 hold up Id think it would knock with that much intake temp so im curious. Pretty damn fast.

I got no knock on that pass (22 degrees of timing), but I guarantee I was losing a lot of power. BTW my intake temps are my boosted air temps. My temp sensor is in my MAF. Something is going on with my intercooler pump. After I launch it stops pumping. I dont know if the g-forces are causing a bubble to hit the pump or what. I will get it fixed because we are going to Noble next weekend for Buick Vs Ford. I think the car will go 9's next weekend. If not very very low 10's. I was fighting a 20 mph headwind today, and fighting my intercooler pump to boot. I ran a lot lower mph that what I expected, but my turbo spools like a beast. I ran a 1.45 60', where my old best was 1.57 when I was supercharged. The best with my old turbo was 1.61. I think it has more in it too. I may be able to squeeze off a 1.40. I think with a 1.40 and 138 mph we will see a very high 9.

Also I got a really cool picture of my car today. The guy shooting photos for HPP got a pic of my car launching with the wheels off the ground! I had it printed 8.5x11 full glossy photopaper, so I will have it scanned and put online. Its an amazing picture. Ive never seen air under my front wheels before, unless its on one of my lifts. hahaha.

Pretty awesome I dont doubt you lost alot of power to the absurd high intake temps thats pretty nuts that there was no knock, Makes me kinda wish I had set my last car up on e85 before I parted it out.

quote Originally posted by fieroX: 10.30 132 mph 1.45 60'.!

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: my official guess, if you get the traction you claim, is 10.4@133

Well, it launched like you said, I would say my guess was pretty damn close.

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Ryan - your car is looking and running nicely! Good to see that you're still wrenching on it AND making it look pretty

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my hi def camera was dead because the guy that owns the black fiero in this vid didnt know where my charging cable was. So heres a video taken with a regular digital camera with no zoom. you can hear the announcer say the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M04N5zN6VNg

I tried and got something for proof. It works and he almost said Red fiero in the video hahaha. You should scan and post up the picture of you pulling the front wheels!

This is by far my favorite notchback fiero. No doubt about it.

Good run--I see 9's in the future soon.