quote Originally posted by maryjane: Just an observation, and suggestion. If the present direction that this thread has taken continues, it will probably end up in OT. Let's try to avoid that by keeping it Fiero and PFF member oriented.

Agreed.

quote Originally posted by maryjane: Let's try to avoid that by keeping it Fiero and PFF member oriented.

Don, you're right and I'll let it go, but I am upset. And the reason I'm upset is that members of PFF, their lives were at risk and yes their Fieros, were lost because of Katrina and it's aftermath, some if which was preventable. The people of New Orleans had a reasonable expectation that the governement, (local, state and federal) and our elected officials would make wise choices and protect the people. There were breakdowns in the system and I'm not about trying to point fingers but something has to be done to fix the system before people can be allowed to live in New Orleans again.

To the people of New Orleans I support you 100% and I will do what I can to help.

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jscott t-bird1963 is correct lets focus on the now not the past. Lets help the people that we can now. The past is the past. You can never shoulda, woulda, coulda.

I talked to miss tress today. She and her husband (007) are still at the 4-H camp in Georgia. She is in pretty good spirits considering the circumstances. Although a little frustrated with the process of dealing with FEMA. A lot of red tape and filling out the same forms two and three times.

She doesn't have internet access, but her cell phone is working fairly consistent now. She hopes to be able to leave the camp within the next week, but the process is not all that clear. She isn't sure where they are going but she wanted to thank everyone on the forum for their kind thoughts and support through the whole ordeal. They could end up in Philidelphia or North Carolina or anywhere else. Hopefully soon she can get to a computer and thank you all in person.

I think everyone has checked in? Is there anyone we haven't heard from?

quote Originally posted by jscott1: I talked to miss tress today. She and her husband (007) are still at the 4-H camp in Georgia. She is in pretty good spirits considering the circumstances. Although a little frustrated with the process of dealing with FEMA. A lot of red tape and filling out the same forms two and three times. She doesn't have internet access, but her cell phone is working fairly consistent now. She hopes to be able to leave the camp within the next week, but the process is not all that clear. She isn't sure where they are going but she wanted to thank everyone on the forum for their kind thoughts and support through the whole ordeal. They could end up in Philidelphia or North Carolina or anywhere else. Hopefully soon she can get to a computer and thank you all in person.

That's great news Jscott1. Since you've talked to the "007"s, what do they need, other than a permanent place to call home? Is there a viable mailing address for them?

quote I think everyone has checked in? Is there anyone we haven't heard from?

Dave Kauzlarich ( FieroG97J) Lacomb La. Registered Feb 2000 fierolit@bellsouth.net
(now accounted for!!)

Likesto--real name unknown. Registered in 2004. mier6288@i-55.com homepage=
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Fieroliterature
New Orleans

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CORRECTION!! Dave Kauzlarich just emailed me, and says he is fine and his family is as well. Some damage of course, but they plan on staying and rebuilding the damaged part.
Don

quote Originally posted by maryjane: CORRECTION!! Dave Kauzlarich just emailed me, Don

Whooo Hooo Dave is okay!!!

Nothing else matters as much as we have all our members back safe and sound.

with people on here donating money and supplies and such has anyone out there got an extra room or so that people like Miss-tress and her husband can crash at? I mean, I figure it would probably be a little nicer than whatever the government is going to send them(imagining bunch of people sleeping on beds in stadiums). Unless they have family they are going to go stay with.

quote Originally posted by enthashyt: (imagining bunch of people sleeping on beds in stadiums).

Where Tress and her husband are right now is a bit nicer than that. They have open invitations with several people once they have done everything they need to do before leaving the shelter. The willingness to help others in need has been the silver lining here. None of the evacuees should have to feel like they have nowhere to go.

Hello Anthony. Have you recieved the package? Powell signed for it. Is that your relative? Please let us know if you recieved package.

Thank you.

quote Originally posted by jscott1: Where Tress and her husband are right now is a bit nicer than that. They have open invitations with several people once they have done everything they need to do before leaving the shelter. The willingness to help others in need has been the silver lining here. None of the evacuees should have to feel like they have nowhere to go.

They're right! The shelter where I was staying was like a dream. There are people offering help at every turn. They fed us, gave us a place to bath, an air matress to sleep on, took care of our paperwork, and got us a flight on DELTA to get to relatives here in GA. Still today people from the shelter call to see if they can help in anyway. I thank all involved in helping evacuees feel comfortable and safe during this time.

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quote Originally posted by 4.9 PFI FIERO: The shelter where I was staying was like a dream. There are people offering help at every turn. They fed us, gave us a place to bath, an air matress to sleep on, took care of our paperwork, and got us a flight on DELTA to get to relatives here in GA. Still today people from the shelter call to see if they can help in anyway. I thank all involved in helping evacuees feel comfortable and safe during this time.

This is good to know. The real comfort, however, is in knowing that you, Exotic RIda, Miss-Tress, 007, FieroG97J (as well as family members) are at least safe and accounted for.

I know that myself and others are still awaiting news of some of our other members. I'm thankful you're on the rollcall of those who are accounted for.

Hey all. I've talked to Anthony and he has recieve the packages and says thanks. However, he does not have internet access at this time to respond for himself.

Hi all. I've just gotten internet access at the shelter, so this was the first opportunity I've had to respond personally.

First of all, I'd like to say thanks to everyone who offered help, positive thoughts and prayers during this time. We didn't have a way out, since the only running car we had was the fiero, and it was still running hot on the highways. We couldn't rent a car, since none were available by the time we'd received the announcement that the storm was coming our way. The shelters weren't accepting animals, and with 5 dogs and a cat, we didn't have a way of getting them out.

Once the storm hit, we got into the attic in time, and texted jscott for tracking information since we couldn't call out on the cell. Luckily, everyone in our family is okay and accounted for. We've lost everything--the house is under 12 feet of water; the car is completely submerged and all of our belongings are toast. We were only able to get out with one of our pets--the 3 month old puppy--and built a temporary shelter on the roof for the dogs and left the cat in the attic with food and water.

For those who are second-guessing the decision to stay, just keep in mind that we didn't make the decision lightly and only did so because we felt we didn't have any other alternative. I've been through several other hurricanes before and don't enjoy the experience, so my first inclination was to leave once I found out that we were in the direct path. We'd been working on an intense project for the couple of weeks before the storm and hadn't even watched the local news, so I was completely unaware of the impending storm until late Saturday evening and by that time, it was too late.

In any event, we're doing okay and have taken the opportunity to try to help some of the other evacuees find out information on their relatives; file paperwork and get the necessary details so they can make some decisions regarding the next phase in their lives. We don't know where we're going yet or what we're going to do. We're just kind of taking it all one day at a time.

Thanks to jscott and maryjane for contacting our families and again to everyone else for their positive thoughts and prayers.

We've got limited access here, so I'll try to post again once we've decided where we're going from here. Right now we're in Eatonton, Ga. at a pretty nice facility on a lake, so it's not all that bad.

Well, my time is up. I'll check in with you guys later.

Thanks again.
---Tress

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quote Originally posted by Miss-Tress007: Hi all. I've just gotten internet access at the shelter, so this was the first opportunity I've had to respond personally. Well, my time is up. I'll check in with you guys later. Thanks again. ---Tress

Sounds almost like a country club.
Glad to hear from you and that you are now safe!
Be sure to jump back on line and keep us posted on the situation.
All the pets make it out too?
Are you planning a return when able?

Tress, you have a PM!

quote Originally posted by Miss-Tress007: ... In any event, we're doing okay and have taken the opportunity to try to help some of the other evacuees find out information on their relatives; file paperwork and get the necessary details so they can make some decisions regarding the next phase in their lives. We don't know where we're going yet or what we're going to do. We're just kind of taking it all one day at a time. ... Well, my time is up. I'll check in with you guys later. Thanks again. ---Tress

Way cool! Glad to hear you guys are ok!

--Will

quote Originally posted by Exotic Rida: I really cant explain how i feel right now......i just feel good now considering all thats happened, i just got word today on the radio that my former high school was used as a shelter and the place had 1300 people in it and they all drowned! The whole school was under water, the water rose and rose, and it slowly filled the entire school they were trapped and couldnt open the doors! (something about they couldnt open the doors because the pressure was not equal on both sides)

I know there's a LOT of water pumping and building searching yet to do (and then see who people are still reporting as missing) before they even begin to come to some accurate fatality counts, but just curious if you've heard any more about this incident?

JC

Hello PFF. Thanks for the helping us. Here is Anthony cellphone email: 5042355281@messaging.nextel.com. If your trying to reach him, you can send him a short text email to his phone and he can reply. Me on the other hand (Garrett), can recieve mail through my email link on PFF.

Anthony is doing good. He getting an apartment in the next few days. He also says that he recieve the packages you all sent and sends thanks to you.

quote Originally posted by FastIndyFiero: Anyone heard from Likesto yet?

No-not that I know of, but that doesn't mean he isn't safe. A real name would be really really helpful.

RITAs coming to Houston...Holy Crap!

I have to decide which Fiero to save if I evacuate:

Proud-1 is on the west side of town, safe from the surge, but flooding is always a problem.
Proud-2 is right now only miles from the bay, need to get it somewhere safe
The Indy is even closer to water, need to get it to higher ground.
The Chop t-top is in the garage, probably okay,
All the others are on their own

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My boss is already getting hyper about preparing our Disaster Recovery stuff here in the computer room. But then, she was here during Alicia (sp?), and was out of power 10 days and couldn't return to work for 5 days.

Guess I better head to the grocery store after work, for some water, batteries, ...

quote Originally posted by jscott1: I have to decide which Fiero to save if I evacuate: All the others are on their own.

Hmmm.........I will be in Angleton, 40 miles southwest of Houston. Twenty miles from the gulf.
Should be an interesting week.

I'm am sooooooo happy to hear that mistress007, exotica and the rest of the guys are alive and well, anyone that lives in the area knows that anything can be replaced but a life.

I live on the northshore and to be honest have never seen trees fly and dance like katrina did around my house (three of them on my house). I live on a one acre lot next to my father and rode the storm out at his house with my sister and most of her family. One of my brothers near Slidell lost his roof but was not there he chose alabama as his point of refuge. The others were on their boats out of harms way. This storm is one for the record books and I can say that even though we didn't have much damage it could have been much worse.

My thoughts and prayers are to the people and families that will never be found.

I have heard stories about people calling family to come back and get them only to be found drowned or crushed by debris.

I have seen police officers crying that even though they were out protecting a once proud city they had no home to go back to for rest nor someone to stand watch while they rested. Help in my opinion was a day late and a dollar short.

I also heard of a 77 year old man that was found in his attic 18 days after the storm, all he had left was a gallon and half of water and was famished. But was in good enough spirits to ask the rescue people if they could stop at a taco bell and laughed about it.

One thing that deeply upset me was the people at the convention center and Super Dome. All of them crying out for help. I know that some of them were truly needy but others were more then capable of getting out but chose to stay. I have read in this forum that people in this area are unique "cajuns can survive anything" I think was said. It is the stubborn streak that kept them there. Or the idea that leaving the only home they knew was to much of a risk. Some stayed to "watch the fort" while others stayed because of darker more sinister aspect of life. For those type of people I hope they get all what they deserve. The road to heaven have special doorways that say free looting, the small print says watch out for the brimstone.

Luckily I can say everyone I knew that stayed are still alive.

According to the statistics that I heard "close to 100,000 people were going to stay in the city after the evacuation decree and that satistically 10% of these people were not going to survive and of this 10 percent were going to be mostly the poor, indigent, and medically handicapped." This was known by the mayor, corp of engineers, governor, and a majority of the statesman of Louisiana. That is why the mayor estimated 10,000 dead.

Do I feel sorry for these people? My deepest sympathy goes to them and their family for their loss. Should the goverment be blamed for this? Not entirely

Being a citizen of this state EVERY hurricane season the local channels put out a hurricane survival documentary showing that if the city flooded what would take place. Disease and chemicals would be dispersed thoughout the region and that dead animals and people would bring in a worst case scenario a plague. I grew up literally looking up as ships floated down the river getting on the levees to see the river flowing 10 or 20 feet above the roads and neighborhoods just inside. This was life and not knowing any better accepted this as normal...... everyones river has boats that are higher then the towns surronding it.

Everyone who lived here knew that it was a matter of time. Let's face it wherever you live there is danger; be it earth quakes, volcanos, tsunami's, snow storms, hurricanes, tornados, and floods. We live on a planet that is not finished and is in constant motion. Yet we expect our homes and cities to remain unchanged by it. Once again I cry for the lost of life in all of these situations.

I can remember my mother and father laying over me and my five brothers and sisters during Betsy, my mother crying and praying for the wind to stop. My father consoling us to stay close and hold on. We weathered a huge storm, did it make us smarter? All it made us was lucky. No storm is like the last one or one 40 years ago.

In closing I am truly thankful to god that everyone I know is alive and well and that he has taken our fallen citizens into his arms and welcome them into heaven. I only hope that when the next storm come that everyone remember the hundreds or thousands that died and take heed to the warnings.

Likesto I'm glad you are okay!!! I think all PFF Katrina survivors have checked in. I think a lot of people have new respect for what a hurricane can do. Before Katrina I thought of the hurricane as a minor inconvenience with no power for a few days and then everything is okay. But now...

Wednesday night Rita should be in the gulf, if the track is still towards Houston then I am out of here. I have started packing as if I'm never going to see my house again. I'm backing up my harddrives, wrapping up my pictures and videotapes that can't be replaced. Then I'm taking off in my truck and leaving all the Fieros behind. Proud-2 is back in the garage, and it's insured so I'll just have to hope for the best.

Cliffw, I stongly suggest leaving Angleton. It's probably safe from storm surge, but if a Cat 3 or better hits the coast it's going to be ugly. The way Houston floods in a normal rain, I expect the flooding would be catastrophic.

I hear offshore rigs are already being evacuated in the Gulf. I am reasonably sure we will not be expected to work during a hurricane and if they expect me to, they are wrong. Most likely, we will be batoning down the hatches as we make as much hole as we can before it hits.
By an interesting week, I mean I do not know when the "RUN !" order will come or where I will run to. Or what I will find when I get back to the rig. I am going to need a unique evacuation plan. The best case scenario will be the work schedule gets blown apart and I will be free for the Ruckus
jscott, PMing you my cell # and times I can be reached. If you need any help with anything, let me know.

quote Originally posted by Cheever3000: Guess I better head to the grocery store after work, for some water, batteries, ...

Too late. Can't find a parking place at any store. And they probably don't have anything left anyway. Just gonna hafta get outta town if Rita comes this way. I should've prepared. Kept saying I was gonna, but procrastinated, as usual.

Big Bad "Rita" is on her way, huh? I know what that means....I'm gassing up the car tonight! I know by Thursday the gas prices will hit +.50 and I'm in CA. Gas cpmpanies will use this a an excuse to rape all.

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Rita is coming to my city, Houston I'm getting the F***!

I'm leaving for sure on Thrusday morning headed west for San Antonio. I've decided to leave all the Fieros behind. The two nicest ones will weather out the storm in the garage and the rest are on their own.

Several people have already been freaked out by the fact that I'm leaving, I used to be a die hard ride it out guy...no more.

The oil platforms are already being shut down, and if any refineries are affected expect to see $4 a gallon gas by the end of the week.

The pressure keeps on a' droppin'.
down to 969 mb and winds up to 125 MPH.

http://www.intellicast.com/Local/USNationalStd.asp?loc=usa&seg=StormCenter&prodgrp=StormLogs&product=StormLog2&prodnav=none&pid=none

http://www.intellicast.com/Local/USNationalWide.asp?loc=usa&seg=StormCenter&prodgrp=TrackingCharts&product=HurTrack2&prodnav=none&pid=none

Haven't seen this thread for a while. Glad to hear our new orleans members made it out alive! Take care.

Good luck to you people in Huston, and the fieros that will stay behind.
We can only hope it doesnt get any stronger.

One more checking in. I live in Louisiana about 50 miles south on New Orleans. Me and my family were very lucky. We had no damage compared to New Orleans and the surrounding aeras. We left town and went to a little town in Western Louisiana called Derider. I seen a fiero there. There are about 5000 peaple in my town from New Orleans. Man these people have had it roughf. We all need to do a little something for them.Well hopfully this next hurricane passes us over.

Thanks zMack...Proud-1 is out of my hands right now at the paint shop. I thought about going to get it, but right now my priority is to get my family out of town...

Take a look at the store shelves, if you want bread, forget it...but Pringles you are in fat city

And to keep it Fiero related, the Indy is getting close, my mechanic wants to smooth out the engine a little more, but his shop is near the bay. I'm debating on getting it tomorrow?? I don't know yet.

If anyone down at Houston decides to come this way let me know, I am sure we can help. One word of caution, the base weather guy is predicting 6-7" of rain here and the last time we got that several parts of the base flooded for a few hours. Chances are we will get a lot of rain since we are in the upper right quadrant of the predicted path. Good luck Jscott, Cheever and everyone else.

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I'm keeping an eye on it as I'm supposed ot head down sunday with a group from my curch to help with the louisianna rebuild effort

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She's a 4 now. Be safe all.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ for everything.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATWDAT+shtml/211241.shtml?
SATELLITE IMAGERY SUGGESTS THAT RITA HAS BECOME A CATEGORY
FOUR HURRICANE. SATELLITE IMAGERY SUGGESTS THAT RITA HAS
CONTINUED TO STRENGTHEN AND MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE
INCREASED TO NEAR 135 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS. RITA IS NOW A
CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. A NOAA
PLANE WILL CHECK THE INTENSITY LATER THIS MORNING. SOME
ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

HURRICANE RITA IS CENTERED NEAR 24.4N 85.3W OR ABOUT 195 MILES
WEST OF KEY WEST FLORIDA AND 790 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF CORPUS
CHRISTI TEXAS AT 21/1200 UTC MOVING WEST AT 12 KT. ESTIMATED
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 948 MB.