thank you,
sorry for making you repeat what u have already said

Will a "automatic/manual" version be developed?

quote Originally posted by buddymem: Will a "automatic/manual" version be developed?

Not unless you're willing to pay out the nose for it $500-700 will be what it takes to get me interested in building one. Maybe less if you get several people to make deposits...

just a bump wondering how everything is going.

Everything's going smoothly on my end... I've put >1000 miles on the new TCM... And I noticed that apparently I have a leak in the trunk, which allowed water to drip on the TCM...

And I also noticed that after a long drive, if I let it sit, the trunk floor gets REALLY hot. I'll have to install a heat shield sooner than anticipated, or I'll start melting things!

So, TCM survives water and 150*F encounter

I would like to get my paddles soon. This pushbutton thing sucks, I have to drive with one hand.
Also, school is letting out in 2 weeks, so I'll be able to devote full attention to this, and you'll start seeing them on ebay possibly sooner than that.

will you be releasing the code with the tcm for pff members who want to possibly mess with it, and change stuff around? Are you using a pic, I think thats what you mentioned earlier. With the code, it would be possible to program 1/4 mile shift points, and commuting shifting, and whatnot for when you dont want to be paddle shifting and want full auto. Im just curious.

Also I have a 4t60e off a lumina 3.4 tdc car, but I dont have the plug or cable or whatever it uses, does anyone have a pic of the tranny with the plugs that are needed to run this. Thanks.

quote Originally posted by p8ntman442: will you be releasing the code with the tcm for pff members who want to possibly mess with it, and change stuff around? Are you using a pic, I think thats what you mentioned earlier. With the code, it would be possible to program 1/4 mile shift points, and commuting shifting, and whatnot for when you dont want to be paddle shifting and want full auto. Im just curious. Also I have a 4t60e off a lumina 3.4 tdc car, but I dont have the plug or cable or whatever it uses, does anyone have a pic of the tranny with the plugs that are needed to run this. Thanks.

No, I will not release the code. To be completely honest, I'm building these to make money. (I'm poor, and jobless) If I released the code, I would have no leverage whatsoever, and anybody who wanted to steal these from me could, and I don't want to chance losing my invested time and money. For somebody who's into electronics, it's not that hard to build one of these in "full auto". It just takes lots of man-hours to program. Besides that, the company mentioned before (page 1?) has a "full auto" setup for $700. They've already taken care of that part of the market. I'm not using a PIC, it's an Atmel micro. PICs are nice for what they do, but real men use real micros j/k..

Now if you already have a factory ECM that can control the tranny, it may be possible to put in a switch to hand off control from the ECM to you...

As for the 4t60e, there are lots of variations out there. I'd need to know what year it is before I can post a pic of the connector.. But it's just a little round 7 pin connector on these...

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quote Originally posted by ryan.hess: Now if you already have a factory ECM that can control the tranny, it may be possible to put in a switch to hand off control from the ECM to you...

You might run into issues with the N/V ratio not matching the currently commanded gear. Might have to trick the park/neutral switch as well...

quote Originally posted by ryan.hess: No, I will not release the code. To be completely honest, I'm building these to make money. (I'm poor, and jobless) If I released the code, I would have no leverage whatsoever, and anybody who wanted to steal these from me could, and I don't want to chance losing my invested time and money. For somebody who's into electronics, it's not that hard to build one of these in "full auto". It just takes lots of man-hours to program. Besides that, the company mentioned before (page 1?) has a "full auto" setup for $700. They've already taken care of that part of the market. I'm not using a PIC, it's an Atmel micro. PICs are nice for what they do, but real men use real micros j/k.. Now if you already have a factory ECM that can control the tranny, it may be possible to put in a switch to hand off control from the ECM to you... As for the 4t60e, there are lots of variations out there. I'd need to know what year it is before I can post a pic of the connector.. But it's just a little round 7 pin connector on these...

completly understandable. are you using a surface mounted chip or a dip, if its dip then you could rip the code from it with the right programer, Im not trying to steal your stuff, Id like to buy one if I can get the stuff to make my 4t60e work (its from a 92 lumina euro 3.4) Id also like to modify my shifter for pushbutton shifting to p,n,r,d like i mentioned earlier. I like messing with code and modifing stuff, but I wouldnt be selling them.

quote completly understandable. are you using a surface mounted chip or a dip, if its dip then you could rip the code from it with the right programer, Im not trying to steal your stuff, Id like to buy one if I can get the stuff to make my 4t60e work (its from a 92 lumina euro 3.4) Id also like to modify my shifter for pushbutton shifting to p,n,r,d like i mentioned earlier. I like messing with code and modifing stuff, but I wouldnt be selling them.

That's what I was talking about earlier, and I also understand your (Ryan's) position. Being in the industry, I hate when one of my projects ends up being "used" by someone else. But, on the other hand, I'd like to see what I can learn from this, also as a professional curiousity. I'm hoping to get one in the future, once my car is sorted out at least.

Good luck Ryan, cool project.

Bob

quote Originally posted by p8ntman442: completly understandable. are you using a surface mounted chip or a dip, if its dip then you could rip the code from it with the right programer, Im not trying to steal your stuff, Id like to buy one if I can get the stuff to make my 4t60e work (its from a 92 lumina euro 3.4) Id also like to modify my shifter for pushbutton shifting to p,n,r,d like i mentioned earlier. I like messing with code and modifing stuff, but I wouldnt be selling them.

Not if it's locked! :P

(actually you probably still can, but it's more difficult)

If you wanted to experiment with this, and wanted a leg-up, I could probably send you one of my completed boards with a blank chip, and you could basically program it to do whatever you want... If you've got a programmer of course.

when I get one, im gonna use it b4 I mess with it. Im looking at getting a 93 cutty supreme 3.1 4spd I may have to put it on that.

i just found the oem plug number for my 4T65E-HD
the gm part # is 15305857 listed as terminal model PT1008.

Ryan...whatever happened to this project?

Bob

quote Originally posted by RCR: Ryan...whatever happened to this project? Bob

ehh... working on getting settled in to the new place. Well... that, and potential liabilities have made me think carefully about what I should do lately.....

ryan
my 4t65ehd is in the shop ,it will be done in a couple weeks
does your system need the ISS sensor cause i'm looking to change the chain and sprokets to a 7/8 chain and no place for the wheel
regards stroker.

Been a while since there was any action on here... Whats goin on? Did we get anywhere yet? I have my 3800 Now, although its mounted to a 5 speed. I may go Auto still but never know.

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Bump for any updates....

What kind of updates are we looking for?

I've been keeping busy with school lately, and haven't had much time to really work on anything. The TCM for all intents and purposes is "done". The instruction manual is "done", but needs some revision. The paddle assembly is far from done. I need to get a decent prototype running, and get that transfered to CAD to get the cost for a small production run. Problem is, there are still a few minor bugs that need to be worked out of the design, and frankly, I just don't have the time to play around with it.

Secondly, each TCM takes probably about 6 man hours to assemble. Maybe more, I haven't really "timed it". Slim profit margin + lots of construction time + no time to work = lack of interest.

I'd like to get the machining of the TCM box automated, i.e. CNC'd, as that takes the most time really... But again, setting that up requires more time that I don't have. It's a vicious cycle

Someone just needs to take over the business and pay me royalties

I'll take one for my N*. I'll continue watching the progress.

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How about a kit, with that 'slim' profit buit in. then it saves you the man hours and takes 6 man hours off the price. You may get more of the 'slim' profits adding up quicker.

Just an idea

quote Originally posted by cancerkazoo: How about a kit, with that 'slim' profit buit in. then it saves you the man hours and takes 6 man hours off the price. You may get more of the 'slim' profits adding up quicker. Just an idea

That's basically what I was thinking of doing.. Probably sending the person the completed board, and having them mount it in the case. Send them some wire to do their own wiring harness... But if I can get the case machined, that would save time on both ends, and probably only raise the cost by $10-20. IMHO, well worth it, because then I won't have to worry about improperly mounted boards.