Cliff! i love the new format. at first, i thought my PC was screwed up, but it rules. i find it harder to get lost in what im reading. i used to have to highlight along as i would read so i didnt get screwed up
I own page 3! woo
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04:18 PM
Razor_Wing Member
Posts: 1753 From: Blowing Rock, NC, USA Registered: Apr 2003
On the question of harder to read Cliff I will pass on some information I learn't studying graphic arts. It was to take into account people with even the slightest problems with their eyes. Not all though of course. Basically for some reason light text on a dark background is hard to read and can cause headaches. Go figure. I used to do dark background web sites until I had complaints from some site owners.
Just typing this message is making my right eye (my weak one) twitch. Prolonged usage will cause a headache so perhaps that is a good thing. We know when we have been reading the forum too long now
On a side note would it be possible to make the body text areas of the topics a closer colour to each other so us transparent gif sig owners won't go through hell tying to match the 2 colours with a common transparent colour?
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04:38 PM
Tabs31 Member
Posts: 2049 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Nov 2001
On the question of harder to read Cliff I will pass on some information I learn't studying graphic arts. It was to take into account people with even the slightest problems with their eyes. Not all though of course. Basically for some reason light text on a dark background is hard to read and can cause headaches. Go figure. I used to do dark background web sites until I had complaints from some site owners.
Yes, I know. That's why I always used dark text on light backgrounds. But, dark backgrounds are popular nowadays, and I have to go with the times.
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05:22 PM
Fierobsessed Member
Posts: 4782 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 2001
Hey Cliff, since you are the administrator, I was wondering if you can make it so I can give YOU more then 1 rating? I mean 1 positive just doesn't do you justice
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06:14 PM
Wholf Member
Posts: 379 From: Cleburne, Texas Registered: Mar 2003
On a 110" screen THIS IS PERFECT!!!!!! I love it.. This will be sooo much easier on my eyes late at night other then a Huge white screen to surf all night long. The colors are a lovely neutral shade. NO brights, pastels, or Well stuff like my Photo..lol
Keep up the great work and Happy Bday!!! wheres the party!!!!
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07:01 PM
30+mpg Member
Posts: 4050 From: Russellville, AR Registered: Feb 2002
I really don't see what's so hard to read (please be more specific). The orange on the dark background when you view the topic list is very clear on all my monitors here (both CRT and LCD monitors). The white on the dark background is very clear too, maybe even a bit too clear (too much contrast).
All text that is hard to read, was meant to be hard to read, i.e. it was meant to be as less obvious as possible (like the text "IP: Logged" or "This message has been edited by...").
Everything that is still blue (like the number of ratings, and the text "Thank you for posting") still needs to be changed since I wasn't able to test everything.
So again, I'm not sure what exactly is so hard to read...
I realize I may be of the older generation here (I am 41) but what it feels like to me is that I am in a dark room looking at a flashlight, very tiring on the eyes. I can not even make out certian things, like the number of ratings and the page numbers at the bottom when there are multiple pages. I can read the white on the black background a little better, just harder than it was before. I have to force myself to focus on it, where before I could simply look at it and read it. I can easily see the stuff in the right side of the page with the lighter blue background.
I think the description from Aus is acurate.
I do like the more modern look, a lot. Just there is no way I could sit here for an hour and look at it. I think it is a matter of form over function or function over form.
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07:07 PM
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buddycraigg Member
Posts: 13603 From: kansas city, mo Registered: Jul 2002
Hey Cliff, since you are the administrator, I was wondering if you can make it so I can give YOU more then 1 rating? I mean 1 positive just doesn't do you justice
Brown-noser j/k
I like it for now, a lot easier than the white screen that blinds you on the search page
Just a suggestion to everyone who has trouble.....................can't the tint, contrast, & color be adjusted on your monitor ??? Just wondering ???
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07:10 PM
Cliff Pennock Administrator
Posts: 11638 From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands Registered: Jan 99
I have not rated this person and thats hard to read
Ok, that has nothing to do with if you have rated him or not. Everybody that hasn't been rated in the past month will show the blue text because the ystem hasn't updated that piece of HTML code. That's something that will solve itself eventually (as soon as somebody rates that person).
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07:19 PM
madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
I realize I may be of the older generation here (I am 41) but what it feels like to me is that I am in a dark room looking at a flashlight, very tiring on the eyes. I can not even make out certian things, like the number of ratings and the page numbers at the bottom when there are multiple pages. I can read the white on the black background a little better, just harder than it was before. I have to force myself to focus on it, where before I could simply look at it and read it. I can easily see the stuff in the right side of the page with the lighter blue background.
I think the description from Aus is acurate.
I do like the more modern look, a lot. Just there is no way I could sit here for an hour and look at it. I think it is a matter of form over function or function over form.
This matches my thoughts almost exactly.
For those saying the screen doesn't look right because of an old monitor or improper settings, I have a 15" LCD screen (laptop) and can only adjust brightness. The old setup just seemed much easier on the eyes, especially after longer periods of time. I now find my eyes bugging out after 30 minutes or so.
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07:43 PM
buddycraigg Member
Posts: 13603 From: kansas city, mo Registered: Jul 2002
The white on the dark background is very clear too, maybe even a bit too clear (too much contrast).
I think this is the main "problem." I think a not-so-bright color would work a little better on the darker background. Just my opinion. I love the look overall.
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08:20 PM
FieroMonkey Member
Posts: 3294 From: poway,CA,USA Registered: Nov 2002
Guess i am with the minority as well. but reading the forum now really hurts my eyes and my head. I hate think i wont be able to read the forum much anymore, but i have been getting a headache now after reading for the last 30 minutes or so. I can only hope my eyes/brain will get used to it in a few days, but i dont think its going to happen. Not sure if i will be missed or not, but will definately miss a ton of people here. take care guys and gals. I have had a blast here on Pennocks Fiero Forum. Thanks Cliff,
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08:22 PM
30+mpg Member
Posts: 4050 From: Russellville, AR Registered: Feb 2002
my work computer must be weak on a color (and the brightness is up all the way) because you could not see the square box around buttons like this one...
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08:28 PM
buddycraigg Member
Posts: 13603 From: kansas city, mo Registered: Jul 2002
Hmmm. Yes, some older threads may have some errors in them while really old threads will still display in the old colors. I can probably solve that, but I'll have to wait until it's less busy on the forum since that's quite a server intensive task.
Well I got to tell you I am just the opposite of what most are bitching about. I am able to read the new format a lot better than the old format. The light colors were hard on my eyes and on long posts I would actually ctrl+a just to be able to read them. I like what has been done. Give it some time and if you do have something you don’t like or find hard to read submit it and give Cliff a chance to look at it.
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