Just for curiosity sake,,, Let's all do some bragging of how fast our Fiero is! Here's my story,, I baught my 85GT 2.8 in VERY rough condition and drove it to work the same day (basicly running on 4-5 cylinders). The place i worked at the time had a small group of guys (kids) who claimed they were part of a "secret street-race society", so obviousely they poked fun at my little piec of wreck from the 80's. One guy chalenged me to race him with his Rx-7 the following friday. With all the pride i could gather, I accepted! It was a real work of junk to be honest! plastic was burnt by the sun, pieces were hanging one headlight up, the other down. Anyway, over the weekend i went to work on it. I first reworked the whole body till it was perfect. then I wet sanded the whole thing and sprayed it with some gloss that i knew whould only last about a year or so, but i couldn't meet this guy at a red-light next week with a dull-finish could i??? It looked like a real show-car for SURE! I then tore into the engine. came to discover that two of the spark plugs were actually broken in half thus causing the rough ride.. that was all!!!! But changing spark plugs wasn't enough for me! I replaced the dist.-cap/rotor ,,the coil,, plug-wires,, and replaced the breather with a nice shiney stainless-steel cold air intake from K&N. THEN i tore off the exhaust and stuck on a glass-pack i had layin around. This little baby ROARED for being a little 2.8!!! I went to work the week driving my usual car,, still getting teased by them guys from that "secret street racing society". I didn't say anything about the fiero and what I'd done to it the whole week. Anyway, I drove it that friday and they were waiting outside the workplace in anticipation (waiting to laugh at me) . Thier mouths Dropped!!! it was great! but this didn't stop my co-worker from still poking fun at my flash-back from the 80's! He's totally sold on imports. By the end of work (11pm) everyone in the place had heard we were meeting at these stoplights the he meets at so often. I went out to my car after-work and he was there with his Rx7 reving and doing the cool burn-out thing,, I hopped in and just HAD to show off!! I actually got the little 2.8 to give me a nice smokey doughnut!! I think the tires must have gotten some mud on them or something, cuz it was RARING to go! At the light we met and waited for it to turn red to have a fresh take-off. The road leads into the country but there's another light 2 miles away. The light turned green and i tore out of there like a squirl!!!! I could actually see him behind me in my mirror ALREADY! (I've had experiance with drag-racing -thus having a .268 reaction-time) anyway,, I pulled WAY ahead of him,, within a mile and a half he caught me,, riding my bumber. I could hear his coffee-can muffler blairing. he started to kreep up along side and I pressed my foot completely to the floor,, he came closer and closer,, then just before the next light (the finish-line) he suddenly dropped speed. I was like "what the****?" I looked back and he was pulled over to the side,, I looked down and had the needle of the speedometer flipped around just past 20mph (not sure but i think that could be like 130-140mph), I slowed down and went back to see what happend to him. His friends were all there with lights shining in his hood. he blew his engine!!! I was sad for him, but not sad enough to gloat! He blew HIS Rx7's engine by street-racing a fiero with a little ol'american 2.8 v6!!! it was great! Oh,, forgot to mention earlier that last summer I finally took it to the dragstrip here in Cordova, illinois and ran a 17.45 in the 1/4 mile. not bad for a stock 2.8 -just shows that if you tune it, take care of it and baby it,,,, you'll get to eat up SOME of them talkers out there.. Just can't wait to put the 3800sc in there so I can blow my brother off the track with his 2002 Mustang 5.0!! :P
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The Poopsmith Member
Posts: 1154 From: Portland, OR Registered: Mar 2005
mine is a worn out 2.8 with a 5 speed izuzu. I pulled on my buddies car with a 2.8 4 speed by a car and a half . Guess we will have to wait til spring to see what she has got at the track.
good story legacy rice burners can be anoying with there coffee can sewer pipe exausts would braging about my ford probe be appropriate sence i dont own a fiero yet? lol
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slade1274 Member
Posts: 339 From: Monroe, GA, USA Registered: Mar 2006
I picked on about a 2000 Z06 on the freeway, twice, got my ass kicked twice. I had unusually good luck with about anything else ...especially ricer crap. They got so bad, I wouldnt even rev an engine beside them and waste gas. That was with a custom built 3.1 turbo.
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flames4me Member
Posts: 915 From: Woodbury MN / Hammond WI Registered: Jun 2005
i go to the dragstrip quite often with my 3.4 DOHC, and have gotten it to do 13.9s almost every time i race. anyway, so far at the track with timed races, i have beaten... camaro Z-28s, neon SRT-4s, WRXs, an old 67 327 camaro (that was sweet), an el camino, chevelles, etc. just to name a few. too bad my v8 blew the tranny before i could get a time in.
------------------ 1986 Silver 5 speed Fiero 3.4 DOHC Bored .30, Fully balanced and blueprinted 13* retard exhaust cam, FFP UDP, much more. 13.93@101mph as it is on the street
355/400hp sbc, 4 bolt main spec stage 3, and many other extras. 87 GT 5-speed Getrag, power everything.
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Legacy Member
Posts: 134 From: Colona,Illinois, USA Registered: Sep 2006
Why did your brother swap out the 4.6 liter for a 5.0?
Sory, i get used to hearing "5.0 Mustang" and i forgot what he even had in his! Either-way,,, I'm set out to beet the crap out of his at the Drag-strip next season!!! -over -and over -and over and,,
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Posts: 134 From: Colona,Illinois, USA Registered: Sep 2006
good story legacy rice burners can be anoying with there coffee can sewer pipe exausts would braging about my ford probe be appropriate sence i dont own a fiero yet? lol
SURE!!! you can brag about your Ford Probe if you want,,, after-all, the guy with the Rx7 did! he-he-he!
------------------ Greg Kerner -Artist, Photographer & fiero owner ,,able to kick butt at 140 Honda's pr hr! http://www.geocities.com/legacy_artist/myfieroproject001.jpg
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Russ544 Member
Posts: 2136 From: S.W. Oregon Registered: Jun 2003
Funny thing..... my Northstar Fiero, as well as my built SBC car won't do over 55 mph in Oregon, but when I go out to the midwest it'll do 70 in most areas.............. go figure
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Oreif Member
Posts: 16460 From: Schaumburg, IL Registered: Jan 2000
he had that thing so over boosted with fart gas he blew the thing up racing, but suprised the hell out of the Z06 as he kept up with him at WOT up to 60MPH before flames poofed out from under the hood and made the Z06 back off.
My buddy never let off WOT until the engine locked up tight.. vette was a good 6 car lengths away and trying to catch up.. he won that race :-)
This was back 4 years ago... I am hoping vettes are faster now.
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Reise Member
Posts: 69 From: Berrien Springs, MI, USA Registered: Aug 2006
My car is SOOOO fast that if you look real hard you can't tell when I left and when I got back... all you can hear is clank...clank...clank of the loose rod in it and then when I shut it off......j/k I screwed my motor and am waiting till I can find a 4.9L to stick in it...probably rebuild and GOOOOO
fast enough to never turn down a race. I lost to a Supra once. but as it turns out, 749whp beats 350whp. Go figure!!
------------------ 1986 GT, LT1/4T60E. In the middle of cam/port, new interior, paint and waiting on new wheels. Itll blow you away!! http://hometown.aol.com/ptfiero/index.html build http://dtcc.cz28.com/Customer/LT1Fiero/index.htm
So there's this nice left hand two lane decreasing radius sweeper between the North / South and the East / West parts of the freeway system near where I live. I drive it every day on my way home from the tar pit / coal mine / work, so I know the road pretty well.
About a year ago, right after I got my first Fiero and had put new tires on it, the traffic opened up just right to "let 'er rip" around the ramp. I truly don't know how fast I was going; well into high gear however, and I hadn't seen the speedo needle for a while. No tire squirm, nice and steady around the corner, then off the throttle at the end and eventually back into 4th to slow down to nearer traffic speed - or at least crossing back under 80 as I begin to work my way across the lanes for my exit. And then I saw the lights behind me..... Seems he'd been coming from the East as I (allegedly) merged from the South, and so had a great view of me coming through the tightest (and for me, fastest) part of the corner.
I figure I've had it.
He gets me pulled over, comes up along side the car, and he looks MAD.
I figure I've _really_ had it.
He puts his hand on the top of the car and leans down to where his face is about 6 inches from mine and says "Most people, I'd ask if you had any idea how fast you were going." He stands back up, looks around at traffic for a minute, then leans back in and says... "You? I'm going to ask ....
How many g's were you pulling!!??"
Say what?
He chewed me out for 20 solid minutes. Ok, maybe 5. Never even asked to see license or registration, and no ticket. Thank you officer, sir.
So how fast? Don't know. Certainly enough to put a grin on this face, followed shortly thereafter by the fear of God and the local Police.
------------------ A pair of 85 2m4s
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Posts: 441 From: maryville TN USA Registered: Oct 2006
I finished my turbo build on my rebuild 3.2. I still had the saab intercooler on it and I was still hesitant to really jump on it. But, I was riding it around town, running about 5-6 psi. I stopped at the grocery store and when I was leaving had this idiot from the pizza place, the delivery boy, pull up behind me. Its was a cavalier with all the trimmings, but nothing under the hood. So I pull out and he is riding my ass, even when I spend up he was pushing me like he had something to show. I downshift and by the time I shift out of third gear he was couple hundred yards back. It really looked like his car broke down. Anyway at the next intersection he would not even pull up next to me. Just hung way back there.
On the Z06. Incrediable car. Neighbor has one down the street, turns the corner and steps on the gas. The car just rockets forward, and spins the tires like crazy.
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Posts: 287 From: Hurst, Tx, USA Registered: Mar 2005
Sory, i get used to hearing "5.0 Mustang" and i forgot what he even had in his! Either-way,,, I'm set out to beet the crap out of his at the Drag-strip next season!!! -over -and over -and over and,,
5.0's were 79-95, 4.6's were 96+
I'd rather have the pushrod motor myself , much cheaper to build and go fast.
In the Fiero, when it was running right, I raced my buddy in his 2000 escort zx2 sport with a few mods, both sticks. Out of nowhere, he floors it and I'm like "Oh, he wants to race! "I was pleasantly surprised when I passed him so quickly. In the 5.0, best so far on the kills list is a new 600cc sportbike and a modded z06.
------------------ 88' 5.0 Mustang GT 86' 2.8 Fiero SE
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Legacy Member
Posts: 134 From: Colona,Illinois, USA Registered: Sep 2006
My Fiero is so fast that: I was parked in my garage and was able to turn off the light switch, get into the car and make it out of the garage before the light went out..........eh, wait a minuet,...scratch that, I forgot that it was daytime.
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Oreif Member
Posts: 16460 From: Schaumburg, IL Registered: Jan 2000
Took it to 146 MPH a few weeks back while doing some tuning before a dyno run. Havent been to the track yet but runs fast enough to leave Revin far behind. Going to hit the track sometime or another but need sticky tires first.
Originally posted by Legacy: I slowed down and went back to see what happend to him. His friends were all there with lights shining in his hood. he blew his engine!!! I was sad for him, but not sad enough to gloat!
Don't. If he blew his rotary, he had one badly maintained engine. There are two prime methods for keeping the engine healthy -- one is inducting a gallon of water through the intake at about 3k, and the other is periodic redlining. The 13B is designed to recline in the redline without any problems, since 9k on the tach is only 3k on the rotars, and a spinning rotar undergoes less stress than a soup can going up and down at the same speed, to boot. In fact, there is a story about Mazda doing a test on a 13B, removing all the rev limitting safeties on a new motor and running it at 13k rpm. After FOUR DAYS of continuous use, they stopped the experiment because expense for gas was getting too high. These motors only pop if you overheat them, run an apex seal to the end of its life and throw it, or build it up to 350 hp and abuse it.
My guess is he broke an apex seal, or threw off a chunk of carbon from the rotar. Both could have been prevented with basic maintanance. Karma bit him in the ass for making fun of your "aging" car, especially since his RX-7 was from the same decade (I doubt he had an FD or you'd have been destroyed; if it was an FD, then triple the significance of everything I stated above).
Edit: Just to clarify, by "Don't" I was referring to feeling sad. Gloating was most definitely appropriate.
------------------ LIFE IS MADE OF OBSTACLES AND CHALLENGES — TO OVERCOME THEM IS TO PROGRESS.
CAUTION SUSTAINS LIFE — HESITATION BEGETS FAILURE.
DRIFTING — IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE FASTEST WAY AROUND A CORNER, BUT THE MOST EXCITING.
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The ROK Member
Posts: 433 From: Birmingham, AL Registered: Aug 2006
I raced a friend of mine in his ford focus. I was in my 2.8 & I have no clue what he had. I hit 110 and he wasn't too far behind. i slowed down b/c the ground was wet and my rear end started shaking. I frequently mess with me friend who has a 2001 Camaro. He's got the 3800. My def of WOT and his def. of WOT are completely different. Just thought i would share
------------------ To steal from one is plagarism, but to steal from many is research. RRRROOOOLLLLL TIDE
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KeithGT Member
Posts: 540 From: Huntsville, Al Registered: Jan 2006
My cars SOOO Fast, thats when i drive by, People go DAMN THAT IS ONE FAST CAR! Its So fast thats this one time i forgot just how fast it was, and i was going like 189.5647 mph, its was CrAzYYY i tell you, just cRaZyyYY!!!!! WHAO!!!! But seriously, its F*#$@ Slow.
I dragged a newer beemer, didn't get the model but he was fast, only barely beat me.
I was out on the country road, on sunny Saturday after noon, and I pulled up to a stop sign and there was a boxster s in front of me. We drive around for a few minutes, and he gets annoyed at the fact that I am behind him. He decides he doesnt want to see me anymore. He soon realizes I am on him like glue, accelerating, stopping and handling (mind you I have upgraded the brakes and suspension), and can't out do me, now I do understand, a master of that car would have made it a lot harder on me, but not bad for a 5000 dollar car, vs a 50000 dollar car.
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Jermz238 Member
Posts: 1637 From: Newark, California Registered: Jan 2006
she redlines at about 135 mph. i wish i had another gear, as with the cam and heads she'll pull hard all the way through third and if there were a fourth i have no doubt she'd pull through that as well
Timeline Auburn Hills, Mi, Spring 1990. raced a "4.3 h.o. monte that has been modded" in front of the new DCX world HQ. after auto class (college night class) he challenged me to a race. he had been bragging all term how fast his car was took him up on it. looked like he gave up by the end of 2nd gear. went thru 3rd and into 4th and couldn't see him anymore. turned around (michigan left) and when i started to go the other way he went screaming past. we met back at the parking lot and claims that he won because he went all the way to the end of the street. i turned around at 80+. i could have coasted to the end of the road before he would have even thought of catching up. whatever.. rematch with his "4.3 h.o. mohte that has been modded" and another guy's horizon. guess who won? he didn't say anything else rest of the term.
BTW 87 2.5/5spd and horizon stick, 2.2? focoa event in 1992 at nat'l trails raceway in columbus did 18.4/ 70mph (?)
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Erik Member
Posts: 5628 From: Des Moines, Iowa Registered: Jul 2002
When my 87 Fiero was stock (3-speed / stock V6), I would get it up past the 120mph mark. I had 235/60/15s in the rear on stock Fiero GT wheels. The gear ratio of my transmission was the GX3 with the 3.33:1 final drive.
It was pegged past the 120mph mark (which would make it about ~127. It ceased accelerating past that point and I probably just hit 130mph. There was still a good 500-600rpms left on the tach before it got into the red, but the car just refused to accelerate any further. Best I can figure, the wind resitance / drag co-eficcient at that speed was far greater than the horsepower of the engine.
There was another Fiero that I used to own, a 1985 Fiero GT 4-Speed. PO had swapped in a 4.10:1 4-Speed to replace the 3.56 that had gone bad. The car was quick as hell... it pulled hard even in 4th gear. I mean... it pulled hard even for a 2.8. The speedo only went to 85 on that car, but the top speed wasn't too far off. My guess is that the top speed of that car wasn't much more than 100mph because of the gearing. I would bounce off the rev limiter in 4th sometimes while trying to pass someone.
All of that said, I honestly can't remember the last time I've been over 90 miles an hour in the past 6 years.
My guess is he broke an apex seal, or threw off a chunk of carbon from the rotar. Both could have been prevented with basic maintanance. Karma bit him in the ass for making fun of your "aging" car, especially since his RX-7 was from the same decade (I doubt he had an FD or you'd have been destroyed; if it was an FD, then triple the significance of everything I stated above).
Honestly, both of those cars are slow as F**K. I used to own a 1988 Mazda RX-7 Turbo-II with a 5-Speed manual. It was loaded, black in and out. I had it for about a week while I had my 87 Fiero SE / V6 Automatic. Honestly, the few times I managed to race them (with a friend driving one or the other), the Fiero would pull away from the Turbo-II RX-7 when starting from a dead stop. The RX-7 would eventually gain after the Fiero hit about 4,500 rpms in 2nd gear.
I used to think my Fiero was the quickest thing in the world. And nearly every person who's ever owned an RX-7 thinks their RX-7 is the quickest thing in the world.
Let me tell you...
A 2nd gen RX-7 is slow as crap. Off the dealer floor, they ran at best, a high 15 in the quarter mile STOCK. The 3rd generation RX-7 Turbo barely broke into the 14s, stock.
I've got a 2006 Pontiac Solstice that I bought about 11 months ago. It runs high 15s stock from the dealer. I've put some money into it, a Cold Air Intake, and a ceramic coated exhaust header, I run synthetic, and it's broken in. I figure I'm probably running low 15s. I had a guy at a gas station come up to me and ask me about my car. He asked me how quick it was... I told him honestly that with what I've done, it probably runs low 15s. He told me.. "Is that all?" He then proceeded to tell me that he had a "bone stock" Nissan Sentra from the late 80s that ran a flat 13 in the quarter.
People have such disproportionate ideas what their cars run. I never really realized just how slow most peoples cars are, and how totally far off their "estimates" are.