quote Originally posted by WAWUZAT: 140 MPH running around Charlotte Motor Speedway (now Lowe's Motor Speedway) during a kit-car weekend back in October of '94. Stock V6 ... 100K miles on the car at that time ... GT40 rebody ... 275-60R-15 tires on the rear.

That must have been fun to do!!!!!!
I'm taking my Firebird out to Infinion Raceway (Formily Sears Point). If my Fiero's suspension was up to the task, I would rather take it! DAMN, that must have been fun going on those banked turns!!!!!

quote Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT: I've had my 86 gt 5spd up to 140mph on a back road. (i love the turns in NY witn my fiero ) as for off the line time... yeah right... the last time i tried that i destroyed a transmission mount bracket and a old a$$ drive shaft. i did beat a turbo'd crx without any problems after i got the car fixed.Once i tried to take a vette on a road with alot of sharp turns and long straights... i was able to catch up on the corners but was left behind on the straights. just wondering, and way off topic but why is it that the corvettes can go fast in the straight but fold on the corners? you would think gm would have learned from the fiero design for conering.

what year was the corvette?

If it was later than 84 than he either wasnt trying or im callin

In 84 the corvette was redesigned for handling and its been one of the wolds best handling cars ever since.

And it was the other way around they used the corvette to help develop the fieros handling.

quote Originally posted by 4-mulaGT: what year was the corvette? If it was later than 84 than he either wasnt trying or im callin In 84 the corvette was redesigned for handling and its been one of the wolds best handling cars ever since. And it was the other way around they used the corvette to help develop the fieros handling.

Are you serious????? the first 2 years of the new (84) design corvettes were a complete disaster on anything but a track!!! every magazine review had the same critisims, the slightest road irregularities and it was off to spinout heaven! they walked all over on turns, I watched em from behind do the hops on slight bumps. unless the road was perfect, almost anything could keep up with them. It took a few years and some major refinements to make a good handling car out of it. and alot of serious/fatal accidents.

My current vette is a ' good ' design 88 roadster. While it does stay flat in turns, bump steer on any uneven surface will get it to change lanes in an instant if your not on top of it. My Dodge Magnum will take same turns faster. One turn close by that I use practicly daily is about a 60 mph limit for the vette, easy at 75 in the Magnum. My Ferrari rebody would do it at 85 and barely squeel the tires.

quote Originally posted by 02SOMFormula: That must have been fun to do!!!!!! I'm taking my Firebird out to Infinion Raceway (Formily Sears Point). If my Fiero's suspension was up to the task, I would rather take it! DAMN, that must have been fun going on those banked turns!!!!!

Since most of us were running street tires, they would not less go into turns 1 & 3 at full speed ... had to navigate a chicane, then accelerate thru 1 & 3. Daytime, we ran the road course which dumps you out on the main oval partway thru turn 1. At night, oval only under the lights. Also since we had street tires, we were all limited to 15-minute intervals to ensure the tires didn't over heat.

The Vettes? They pulled away on the straights, but I was chewing them up in the curves.

quote Originally posted by Legacy: I just discovered that Chris is my nieghbor!!!! (sorta) I'm accross the river and down the road another 8miles. AND we're doing the same engine-swap as we SPEAK!! give me call man! (309) 796-4650 Greg K. <--is also the guy that goes to Cordova

I also have gone to Cordova several times in the last 3 years. I live in Knoxville Illinois which is next to Galesburg about 45 miles south of the Quad Cities. I have a black 85 GT notchback with a 2002 sc3800 that was installed by darthfiero when he lived in Davenport. My best time is 13.03@102.7 mph. We should all get together sometime and do a fun-run.

quote Originally posted by tjm4fun: Are you serious????? the first 2 years of the new (84) design corvettes were a complete disaster on anything but a track!!! every magazine review had the same critisims, the slightest road irregularities and it was off to spinout heaven! they walked all over on turns, I watched em from behind do the hops on slight bumps. unless the road was perfect, almost anything could keep up with them. It took a few years and some major refinements to make a good handling car out of it. and alot of serious/fatal accidents.

The first year of the C4 design (84) is the most desired year out of all C4's for handling. 84 and 85 have the terrible crossfire injection motor and were super low on power. The Z51 suspension package in 85 was still over 25% softer than 84 because people compained it was too rough and was cracking windshields. I autocross my friends 84 vette, it's got stock 25 year old suspension with victoracer tires and nothing can touch it, it handles way better than my fiero and i have an 88GT with konis, coil overs, poly bushings, quick ratio power steering and a totally autocross oriented alignment.

OK so "How fast is your Fiero" has turned into a battle between Vettes & Fieros. :-)
Vettes are too stiff IMO to go fast around fast corners on rough/irregular payment & bumps. That dosen't mean they're no good for autocross, which is lower speeds & usually smooth payment. A car with soft suspension (springs) & heavy sway bars usually handle best in the real world (i.e. on the street).
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The banks at Charlotte are boring at anywhere less than around 160 or so (not that I've seen that speed on them - but I have a little less).
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So is the question "how fast" or "how quick", or should we be talking about *track times*? :-)
I think if we're comparing performance we should use 0 to 100 to 0 (MPH) times, as well as skid-pads (& track times).
Anything can be made to go fast on top end or be quick: it's the total package that makes a car *really* fun for me. Which is why the Fiero is soooo cool.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Did you hear about the drugs smuggled in Elmo dolls? They said it was over a million $$$ Sesame street value!

quote Originally posted by Zac88GT: The first year of the C4 design (84) is the most desired year out of all C4's for handling. 84 and 85 have the terrible crossfire injection motor and were super low on power. The Z51 suspension package in 85 was still over 25% softer than 84 because people compained it was too rough and was cracking windshields. I autocross my friends 84 vette, it's got stock 25 year old suspension with victoracer tires and nothing can touch it, it handles way better than my fiero and i have an 88GT with konis, coil overs, poly bushings, quick ratio power steering and a totally autocross oriented alignment.

as I said, on the track, sex on wheels. on normal streets, they were a disaster, the term was "squirreling" at the time. the softer suspension was added more for the safetry factor than the ride. on a normal road, they were crashing left and right, spins on turns cause the road had some bumps. I know 3 people who dumped them for the handling issues, and these were lifelong vette freaks. the common complaint was it was too dangerous on the roads around here. the loss of ground contact kills anything, and the super stiff suspension was like running a car with no suspension at all.

I was talking back roads in new york... they are very bumpy in some spots and very curvy almost the entire road... I believe it was a C4 with the greenwood... i'm not sure what year but it had that sweet ground efx package. Don't get me wrong i'm not putting them down but how can you spend all that money and not be able to turn right? Don't get me wrong they look nice but i'm all about function. I've seen even the new vettes fail on the corners racing srt-4's around new york.... imo thier just slugs on the turns. Too tight a suspension on too bumpy of a road. It seems as if they were designed to handle track only. OH well... sorry about the thread hijack. Back in the right direction... my wife tried to race me in her 98 accord... i smoked it with no problem... lol

How fast is my Fiero?

Fast enough to beat a Ford Explorer (95-01). Some guy at a light wanted to race so I went for it.

Fast enough to beat a 96 Ford Thunderbird, a friend wanted to race, he had a V6 3.8L.

Fast enough to beat another friend that had a Eclipse GS (95-99) 2.0L DOHC w/ 5spd.

Fast enough to keep up with a Nissan 350Z all the way to 3rd gear, another guy at a light that wanted to race. At the light we both took off and we where even untill I shifted to 3rd gear thats when he started to pull away.

Thats all the cars that I have raced.

Is there something about the Fiero that makes it slow after 2nd gear? It pulls hard on 1st & 2nd but after that it just loses power or something and doesn't pull quite as hard.

I have a 87 SE V6 2.8 w/ 5spd Getrag.

Hmm... well, guess I'll slap my bit of joy in this topic.



Speedometer only showed about 100 but this is what the GPS reported. I trust it more. You know how hard it was to use one hand to hit PrtScrn at this speed?

This is stock everything on an automatic (see sig)... I guess the previous owner really did do a short block change because this sucker wasn't even flinching at this speed! I could have pushed it even further but I didn't need a cop pulling me over... I was just keeping up with traffic.

From what I understand, a stock V6 engine with 153,000 miles on it wouldn't even dream of doing this kind of speed anymore, so yeah, I guess he did switch the engine. Still stock, though, surprisingly. Had a massive vacuum leak when I did this, too... so it wasn't even performing as good as it could. Heh.

Soon as I find a place I can actually get faster than this (without getting pulled over)... bet your ass I will!

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'87 Fiero GT, Automatic, 153k miles, stock everything, just trying to make it all work again. :D

pre rebuild, the 88gt with 150k miles would easily go over 100. no sweat, but not a rocket either.

Oh, it can rocket... it just blows a huge cloud of blackish smoke out the back when I do. >.<

Still trying to figure out that small problem... as soon as I can get air to quit leaking into the cooling system! Gah!

When I had my 85 GT my friend was following me behind me by about two car lengths or so and i got my speedometer back around to 25 (it was a 85mph speedo). He told me he was goin about 125 or so and I was ahead of him. That engine has has some work done to it but is the 2.8. I now have that engine in a 86 GT (for now). I just purchased a 3800 series engine with plans of just gettin it in for now but then rebuilding it and maybe throwing on a turbo next summer. By the way, the roads here in WV are a blast to drive on too

Mines so fast... it never moves...its a violation of international law
(crap dead post, sorry guys)

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3.5 (LX5) "Short Star" with a 4 speed overdrive auto 4T65E. I hit 55mph in first gear and before I hit the red line in second the electronic speed gov kicks in at 112pmh. Not a drag car by any means, the gearing is way to tall. But it has WAYY better go go than the stock 2.8.

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That's ok, it gave me a case of the giggles.

Let's see, in one weekend, a "complete body re-work" with a new clear coat, tune up with new plugs and wires (I'm tired already just typing this) AND a new intake and new exhaust. Phew! That's a month of projects for the mortal man. Thank God and Adolf Hitler for Chrystal Meth, eh?

Then race day comes against the Super Secret Street-Racing Society (alliteration ROCKS!) and you go racing. After totally launching on your muddy tires (nothing says traction like mud) you totally leave this guy behind, without even trying. You're not even putting the pedal to the floor! What a stud! Did you put some of that crank in the tank, too?

Awesome Tech thread. +1 for you.

My kills/romps/deaths. Sometimes is a very fine line.

1991 Acura NSX
1995 BMW M5
1994 Acura Integra with 2.0, CRV bottom end, VTEC head
90's Porsche Carrera Turbo
2003(?) Firebird Firehawk
Supra Turbo Anniversary Edition
Dragged out Fox body, no details, but looked scary as hell
C5 Corvette

Just some of my more memorable playtimes, all reaching 130+ mph on freeways dodging lots of kittens and kids on tricycles.
I'm a very bad man.

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i was racing a GT1 with my 88 2.8 stock auto, started a 30mph we both nailed it and i pulled away from him so fast it was insane, id only been WOT about 3 seconds and was already 10 cars lengths infront and and bearing down on 140mph, it went past the (PHYSICAL NUB!!!) On the speeds that (PHYSICALLY STOPS) the needle from passing 120mph..held it down a few more seconds and was doiing 170mph with my 3 speed auto and oh yeah (NE PEG AT 120 THAT PHYSICALLY STOPS THE NEEDLE FROM PASSING 120!!!!!!) wow that stock 3speed car is so fast i bet it would do a 12 second 1/4 time!!! WOW

Well, I know that with my 3.2 V6 / TH125 combo, it turns around 4500RPM @ 90MPH. I'd rather not push it much further... not because I don't trust the engine (I rebuilt it last summer), but because I built it for midrange torque. At 4500RPM, torque output is starting to tail off.

I need a better transmission.

well,88 silver formula, then you should think before you speak. my 88 gt 5 speed turns 2500 rpm at 70 mph. there is no pin on my speedo, it fell off . Unfortunately the last time it was at 110 I didn;t note the exact rpms, but it was no where near redline.
don;t mistake that anemic 3speed auto on a stock v6 with a 4 or 5 speed, especially behind a non tired motor.
and you don;t need the speedo to tell, you can calculate the speed from the tach after it pins, if you have any record of your rpm vs speed in gear.
eg 50 is 1800, 60 is 2200, 70 is 2500, 75 is 2700 (numbers from an aldl run to work) see the pattern? 120 mph is around 4600 rpm, not an unreasonable rpm for most stock motors at anyrate.

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quote Originally posted by 88 Silver Formula: I just wish i could fully express my feelings towards...well ignorant people...... im SO TIRED of hearing that "luks" stock civic will run a 10 second 1/4 mile. i sooo freeking tired of it!!! and you legend were going how fast when you elegibly decided to "press the pedal ALL THE WAY DOWN!!??!!? if your racing you are wot the entire way...-----------------im sorry but almost no rx7 will get beaten by a stock fiero------------....i really want to open a can of worms here but this topic shouldent end up in the trash can. PEOPLE just please before you say your car runs whatever..make sure its tracked first and DO NOT like all ricers say that your 1/8th time was acually your 1/4 mile time...so many ricers do that bs..now i dont know what an 85 gt speedo goes to but ive heard several people with 88's claiming over 130 140 MPH...the peg on the 120 physically stops the speedo needle from passing it...i know ive done it and due to the 3speed auto i highly doubt the car could do 130mph without blowing up (120 wot is about 6,000 rpms) so i say if you dont track your car for PROOF then your just throwing a big line of to everyone

...-----------------im sorry but almost no rx7 will get beaten by a stock fiero------------.... hd to put it on again cause wtf???? rx7s are so slow unless theyre turbo... 1st and 2nd gens will hit low 16's if theyre lucky...i have proof(timeslips) of 15.3 1/4 mile runs. i race those pos' all the time and tey dont even start pullin til mid 4th(4.10 4spd).... and as for top speed i had a corvette pace me on I5 at 140(when i had my 3.65 4spd) and around 130 on my 4.10...if youre talking straight line fieros arent rockets by any means but they are damn near unbeatable across an intersection and on some windy roads its all about driver skill....i pulled a 95 rx7 lowered on wheels through an off ramp(and yes he was trying to push that lil 1.3 wankle just as fast as he could) these cars arent the big piles of **** everyone says they are... for what they are and how old they are they dominate even brand new sport compact cars with dohc and variable valve timing... if youre getting beat by all these ricers mabe you should learn how to drive your car not blame it for your lack of skill.

cars ive raced both at the track and on the street that ive beat

240sx(both s13 and s14)
late 80's n/a supras
early 90's 300zx n/a
integra's all but the type R's(b18c5's are pretty fast )
nissan frontier nismo edition
all civics even si(pre 2006 except 4 door)
cavilier/sunfire
foucus zx3/zx4
early 90's t-bird V8
all v6 mustangs...and v8 convertable automatics
neon sxt
golf/gti...any volkswagen with a 1.8T
most suv's minus dodge r/t and chevy ss'

i know i beat my car that's why im on my 2nd clutch, 5th 4speed trans, and just blew a headgasket at the track last night...but on the plus side im running a 2.0 60' and a 15.3 at 85ish mph in the 1/4

dont hate...question in disbelief if you must but dont flat out call us liars because you dot maintain/know how to drive your car


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P.S. ive seen civics/integras lowered on nice(not flashy) wheels that are almost as quite as stock hit high 10's low 11's body panels and hoods dont makes cars faster...thay just attract police and theives

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rx-7s are not slow but this thread is about fieros not rx-7's. If you dont like ppl that lie about their cars why do you lie?? esceicially the supras and the civic si cuz u even say that u run slower than a civic si. But we are in a fiero forum not a rx-7 hater forum. So lets hear more about fieros

Wanna go fast? Get a Hyundai Sonata. Fastest clocked so far by speed radar at 147 MPH.

CAMERA SNAPS CAR GOING 147 MPH ON LOOP 101
July 21, 2006 •• 263 words •• ID: pho144320458
The case of a Goodyear man who is accused of breaking speed records on Scottsdale's stretch of Loop 101, has taken another twist. Lawrence Pargo, 26, was clocked on May 21 at a record 147 mph. But there are questions about whether his rented Hyundai Sonata could go that fast. Those answers will have to wait. Pargo's pre-trial hearing in Scottsdale City Court on Wednesday was continued. No date has been set. Pargo pleaded not guilty June 12 to misdemeanor

Hyundai reps later testified that the car was capable of that speed after the defendant claimed it wasn't possible.

MAN GETS 7 DAYS FOR SPEEDING
December 6, 2006 •• 252 words •• ID: pho160241322
A Goodyear man clocked at a record 147 mph by speed cameras on Scottsdale's stretch of Loop 101 will spend seven days in jail and take aggressive-driving classes as part of a plea deal reached with city prosecutors. Lawrence Pargo, 27, originally pleaded not guilty to misdemeanor charges of endangerment, reckless driving and excessive speed, and he could have spent six months in jail.

quote Originally posted by timgray: Ahh I'll race ya! my geo metro 4 door is pretty darn quick.. it happens to have a bit more HP under the hood than normal (Gotta love that bigger suzuki engines fit!) and being incredibly light, 125hp under the hood suprises the hell out of everyone around here :-) There is a chevy aveo around here as well that has a turbo on it that can take almost any camarobird easily let alone cobalts and solstices. adding a turbo to those little engines is quite amazing. But I prefer the higher HP engine swaps. I just hate that the power band is in the 3000-5000 rpm area so I have to shift like a motorcycle.

LOL i shouldn't diss the geo, my friend had a stock one minus all doors, interior, and paint lolol We would race that thing all over the place. It was pretty quick. Ive always wanted to fit a v8 into one somehow. That would suprise alot of people! My 2.8 is now gone, i may surprise a few people myself!

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110 for me, but I stopped acceleration because my testes weren't that big, I had plenty of RPM's left and I'm confident that I could get another 20 MPH out of her before the wind/HP wall. The tires are shot, and it was getting really hairy at 110, the back end was twichy as all get out but I could tell a real difference over my 85 with no hood vents, this one was actually sticking real well.

Oh and we don't all have the little pin on our speedo . Neither of my cars, the 85mph speedo, or the 120mph speedo have the pin to stop the needle, I'd have to drive 20 miles to check the other cars out, but I don't remember it in them either.
They either fall off with age, are removed when putting in different gauges etc.

Brad

quote Originally posted by tjm4fun: well, then you should think before you speak.

Who are you talking to?

sparky, i live in phoenix man right by the 101 haha seriously the camera's are homo dude! they turn them off then back on,.... and a sonata goin 147!? im not sure i'd trust a hunydai (sp) going those speeds i mean its like a knock off of a honda.... thats terrible. it kinda sounds like honda but only cheaper. but i havent really ever raced my 86 2m6 se.... its a good ammount of quick thou off the line. i have a sub under the passenger dash and it slides all the way out and its a comp twelve very heavy. i plan on doin a 3800 N/A swap later on and turbo'in that little bastard because you've got enought low end power for how much the car weighs then. but hell yea for AZ i havent seen alot of people on here from there.

quote Originally posted by Mr. Pat: fast enough to never turn down a race. I lost to a Supra once. but as it turns out, 749whp beats 350whp. Go figure!!

Im pretty sure my buddys 1000 yes 3 zeros after it + powered supra would kill my Fiero but I still Wax the Zo6 and SRT 4 bangin A$* not to mention the Mach1s around as well as all of the cobras that are street legal that have raced me... runs like a champ and is now going for sale

Stock '84 Duke SE 110, Stock '85 V6 GT 115

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quote Originally posted by Blacktree: Who are you talking to?

it was meant to be for 88 silver formula, your post snuck in there before I got mine finished. I'll go back and edit it.
didn;t scan back to see it til now. Sorry about that chief!

My fiero is so Fast.....

One day it was in the shop getting a new water pump, so I was walking home from work (1/4 mile), and I got pulled over walking. The cop must have smelt the fast on me.

Check out the drivetrain for my 87 GT in my signature.How fast do you think that will go?This is just pure unadulterated bragging.I do expect it to do well on the dragstrip and get good gas mileage to boot.

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I got mine up to 45 on a street before i saw it was overheating. it must of hit 50 behind the tow truck.

so i have this real passion for hating rice burners. my girlfriend would usually get mad at me because EVERYTIME i would see one i would rev my engine just to hear there stupid exhaust and laugh (my muffler had a tiny hole so it sounded a lot louder but still passed smog). so one night a few months ago i was on the freeway and some stupid honda passed me doing like 100+. i just floored it in 4th and eventually caught up to him. the speedo was almost back to zero so that was what 110 maybe? we pull off the same exit and go up to the light. we both knew we were going to race so when the light turned green we took off. fieros are GREAT for launching! when we crossed the intersections i was about 2 or 3 lenghts ahead and he never caught up. this is on a totally stock 2.8 with 122k on it. i raced him 2 more times and beat him again. when we pulled up to the 4th light we talked. turns out it was probably around a 2000-2003 civic with a "cool" CAI and "awesome" muffler. i know its not much beating something like that but it feels good knowing u can still put a few people in their place. ps-fatigued a rod bolt racing that night and blew my engine a few days later. new engine is almost up and running! forged pistons, bored .030 over, 440L cam, reconditioned everything, compression ratio about 10.0:1, performance valve springs and tons more. ill start taking some pictures to post!

in my 1986 SE 2.8 4spd... 120mph (only once..) 5years ago .. i miss that car

in Alexs 84 2.5 4spd, 90mph, once. on the way to Carlisle, by meself, in a tunnel.

in my 90 Nissan hardbody Truck, 100mph, once , going slightly down hill. 2-3 years ago

99.9% of the time now, i go 5 over, and everybody passes me! when i had my 2.8 4spd, i got WAY to many speeding tickets. now ive learned... i cant afford to speed!!

Tonight on my way home I had a nice chevy malibu keeping up with me. The guy driving was crazy, twice he went around cars on the shoulder. I have no idea how fast we were goin because the needle was the the peg at 120, But I definately pushed it too hard because the water was bubling and the temp was almost at red when I pulled off the freeway. But I was proud of my old girl keeping up with all these newer cars

quote Originally posted by Russ544: Funny thing..... my Northstar Fiero, as well as my built SBC car won't do over 55 mph in Oregon, but when I go out to the midwest it'll do 70 in most areas.............. go figure

Speaking of which... I found out that my Fiero can do 80 in the western part of Texas, but it can only do 70 here in Florida. I need to move to Texas.

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12.927 in the quarter at 105.82 3800sc 3.4 pulley